[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion
Liberty Felix
mark420.freedom at gmail.com
Thu Nov 28 08:07:10 EST 2019
Aye from Mark Gailey
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:51 PM Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm <
lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
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> Eric Cranley
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> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
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> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
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> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:38 PM -0500, "Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm" <
> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
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> Well it's been 24 hours with no discussion since the amendment passed,
> so per the OR there would be a vote on the motion as amended.
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> Assuming that's the case, I vote Aye.
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> ---
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> 4th District Chair
> State Party IT Director
> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
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> On 2019-11-26 03:18, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> > There appears to be 6 voting in favor of the amendment and the
> > 2-business-day period to vote ended Monday.
> > That would mean the amendment would become the main motion, with a
> > comment period ending in 5 days or after 24 hours of no discussion,
> > per
> > the Operating Rules.
> > Ken
> > Sent from Android device
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> > On Nov 23, 2019 10:50 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> > wrote:
> >
> > Aye
> >
> > Dan Hull (per our conversation)
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> > On 11/22/19 5:29 PM, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm
> > wrote:
> > > Aye
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Aye
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Eric Cranley
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via
> > Lpk-execomm" wrote:
> > >>
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> > >> Yes from Mark
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> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
> > >> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The amendment to become the main motion.
> > >>>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> > >>> 4th District Chair
> > >>> State Party IT Director
> > >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> > >>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I
> > feel
> > >>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randall Daniel
> > >>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> > >>>>> Aye
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cristi
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> All -
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's
> > been
> > no
> > >>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which
> > triggers an
> > >>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have
> > started
> > >>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would
> > likely
> > be the
> > >>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> > >>>>>> 4th District Chair
> > >>>>>> State Party IT Director
> > >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and
> > then tabled
> > >>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>> email. That's how we got here. The original motion
> > was
> > to give
> > >>>>>>> D6 an
> > >>>>>>> additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to
> > let
> > them buy
> > >>>>>>> gear
> > >>>>>>> and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was
> > needed to
> > >>>>>>> open a
> > >>>>>>> bank account (some banks require that much, some
> > don't).
> > >>>>>>> I second Cristi's official amendment.
> > >>>>>>> I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party
> > level and
> > >>>>>>> distribute to all affiliates (including county
> > affiliates) and if
> > >>>>>>> D6
> > >>>>>>> needs the extra funds to open an account to do that
> > part
> > too.
> > >>>>>>> Ken
> > >>>>>>> Sent from Android device
> > >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via
> > Lpk-execomm
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion
> > would
> > >>>>>>> read as
> > >>>>>>> follows: LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper
> > stickers and
> > >>>>>>> distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs
> > $100 to
> > >>>>>>> open a
> > >>>>>>> bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from
> > whatever
> > >>>>>>> funds are
> > >>>>>>> currently due to them.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cristi
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward,
> > not
> > >>>>>>> amending
> > >>>>>>>> the first motion?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ken
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> > >>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
> > >>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
> > >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion: not only will this
> > help
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> state
> > >>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn
> > and
> > bc
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> items
> > >>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party can help other
> > >>>>>>> affiliates
> > >>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions
> > that
> > >>>>>>> may be
> > >>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank
> > account.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Cristi
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
> > >>>>>>> original
> > >>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment. :)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> > >>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
> > >>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
> > >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The
> > LPStore
> > is
> > >>>>>>> running out
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too
> > have
> > >>>>>>> been
> > >>>>>>> busy
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
> > >>>>>>> discount
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50
> > for
> > >>>>>>> 500
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter,
> > we
> > >>>>>>> bought
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60
> > expenditure
> > by
> > >>>>>>> LPKY
> > >>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the
> > intention
> > to
> > >>>>>>> share
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
> > >>>>>>> improved
> > >>>>>>> banner
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6,
> > or
> > >>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>> least
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
> > >>>>>>> Kentucky -
> > >>>>>>> 6th
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting
> > in
> > >>>>>>> Miami.
> > >>>>>>> I've
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid
> > LP
> > >>>>>>> stuff
> > >>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. I did get to see the beach anyway.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out
> > if
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> state
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
> > >>>>>>> bulk) and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts? We burned a LOT of
> > >>>>>>> literature
> > >>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4
> > and
> > I
> > >>>>>>> assume
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
> > >>>>>>> going to
> > >>>>>>> get
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before
> > the
> > >>>>>>> deadline to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
> > >>>>>>> Maybe,
> > >>>>>>> maybe
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not. Depends on the bank. I think Hugenberg had
> > his
> > >>>>>>> campaign
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to
> > open
> > >>>>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be
> > made
> > >>>>>>> conditional:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the
> > KREF
> > >>>>>>> papers
> > >>>>>>> are
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before we cut the check
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with
> > the
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding and agreement that it will be used
> > to
> > >>>>>>> open
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be
> > filed
> > >>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of
> > Kentucky
> > >>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
> > >>>>>>> opening a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment
> > conditional
> > >>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork
> > with
> > >>>>>>> KREF
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
> > >>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We cannot appropriate funds if the district
> > >>>>>>> doesn't
> > >>>>>>> have a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at
> > the
> > >>>>>>> state
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can give those to D6 as well.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to
> > give
> > >>>>>>> out
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people with interest.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the few questions I have:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking
> > for?
> > >>>>>>> Would
> > >>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org
> > that
> > >>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing? If so,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind
> > anything
> > >>>>>>> larger
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line
> > added.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to
> > buy
> > >>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and distribute?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Android device
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> > >>>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
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> > >>>>>>> Secretary,
> > >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
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