[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

Cristi Kendrick cristi.kendrick at lpky.org
Thu Nov 28 16:09:38 EST 2019


Aye

Cristi 

> On Nov 28, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Liberty Felix via Lpk-execomm <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
> 
> Aye from Mark Gailey
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>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:51 PM Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm <
>> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Aye
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>> Eric Cranley
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>> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
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>> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
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>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:38 PM -0500, "Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm" <
>> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
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>> Well it's been 24 hours with no discussion since the amendment passed,
>> so per the OR there would be a vote on the motion as amended.
>> 
>> Assuming that's the case, I vote Aye.
>> 
>> ---
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> 4th District Chair
>> State Party IT Director
>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>> 
>>> On 2019-11-26 03:18, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>> There appears to be 6 voting in favor of the amendment and the
>>>   2-business-day period to vote ended Monday.
>>>   That would mean the amendment would become the main motion, with a
>>>   comment period ending in 5 days or after 24 hours of no discussion,
>>> per
>>>   the Operating Rules.
>>>   Ken
>>>   Sent from Android device
>>> 
>>>   On Nov 23, 2019 10:50 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>    wrote:
>>> 
>>>     Aye
>>> 
>>>     Dan Hull (per our conversation)
>>> 
>>>     On 11/22/19 5:29 PM, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm
>>>     wrote:
>>>> Aye
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm
>>>      wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aye
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Cranley
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via
>>>     Lpk-execomm"  wrote:
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes from Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
>>>>> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The amendment to become the main motion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I
>>>     feel
>>>>>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Randall Daniel
>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>> Aye
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's
>>> been
>>>     no
>>>>>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which
>>>     triggers an
>>>>>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have
>>>     started
>>>>>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would
>>> likely
>>>     be the
>>>>>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and
>>>     then tabled
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>   email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion
>>> was
>>>     to give
>>>>>>>>>> D6 an
>>>>>>>>>>   additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to
>>> let
>>>     them buy
>>>>>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>>>>>   and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was
>>>     needed to
>>>>>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>>>>>   bank account (some banks require that much, some
>>> don't).
>>>>>>>>>>   I second Cristi's official amendment.
>>>>>>>>>>   I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party
>>>     level and
>>>>>>>>>>   distribute to all affiliates (including county
>>>     affiliates) and if
>>>>>>>>>> D6
>>>>>>>>>>   needs the extra funds to open an account to do that
>>> part
>>>     too.
>>>>>>>>>>   Ken
>>>>>>>>>>   Sent from Android device
>>>>>>>>>>   On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via
>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>     I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion
>>>     would
>>>>>>>>>> read as
>>>>>>>>>>     follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper
>>>     stickers and
>>>>>>>>>>     distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs
>>>     $100 to
>>>>>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>>>>>     bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from
>>>     whatever
>>>>>>>>>> funds are
>>>>>>>>>>     currently due to them.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>     Cristi
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward,
>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>     amending
>>>>>>>>>>> the first motion?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this
>>> help
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn
>>> and
>>>     bc
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     items
>>>>>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party  can help other
>>>>>>>>>> affiliates
>>>>>>>>>>     with
>>>>>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank
>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
>>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The
>>> LPStore
>>>     is
>>>>>>>>>>     running out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too
>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>     busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
>>>>>>>>>> discount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50
>>>     for
>>>>>>>>>> 500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter,
>>>     we
>>>>>>>>>>     bought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60
>>> expenditure
>>>     by
>>>>>>>>>> LPKY
>>>>>>>>>>     for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the
>>> intention
>>>     to
>>>>>>>>>>     share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
>>>>>>>>>> improved
>>>>>>>>>>     banner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6,
>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>     least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm
>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
>>>>>>>>>> Kentucky -
>>>>>>>>>>     6th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Miami.
>>>>>>>>>>     I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid
>>> LP
>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>     all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out
>>>     if
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
>>>>>>>>>> bulk) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of
>>>>>>>>>> literature
>>>>>>>>>>     this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4
>>> and
>>>     I
>>>>>>>>>>     assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>     get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     deadline to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>     maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had
>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>     campaign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to
>>> open
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm
>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be
>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>     conditional:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the
>>> KREF
>>>>>>>>>> papers
>>>>>>>>>>     are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   before we cut the check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   understanding and agreement that it will be used
>>>     to
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be
>>>     filed
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of
>>>     Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
>>>>>>>>>> opening a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment
>>> conditional
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>     them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> KREF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
>>>>>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We cannot appropriate funds if the district
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>     have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at
>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   can give those to D6 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to
>>>     give
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   people with interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   So the few questions I have:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking
>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>> Would
>>>>>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org
>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing?  If so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind
>>>     anything
>>>>>>>>>>     larger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line
>>> added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to
>>>     buy
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>     in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   and distribute?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Sent from Android device
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cristi Kendrick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership & Outreach Director
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>>>>>>>>>>     Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>     Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>     Membership & Outreach Director
>>>>>>>>>>     502-457-6765
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