[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion
Eric Cranley
eric.cranley at lpky.org
Wed Nov 27 18:51:30 EST 2019
Aye
Eric Cranley
Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:38 PM -0500, "Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm" <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
Well it's been 24 hours with no discussion since the amendment passed,
so per the OR there would be a vote on the motion as amended.
Assuming that's the case, I vote Aye.
---
Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
4th District Chair
State Party IT Director
Libertarian Party of Kentucky
On 2019-11-26 03:18, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> There appears to be 6 voting in favor of the amendment and the
> 2-business-day period to vote ended Monday.
> That would mean the amendment would become the main motion, with a
> comment period ending in 5 days or after 24 hours of no discussion,
> per
> the Operating Rules.
> Ken
> Sent from Android device
>
> On Nov 23, 2019 10:50 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> wrote:
>
> Aye
>
> Dan Hull (per our conversation)
>
> On 11/22/19 5:29 PM, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm
> wrote:
> > Aye
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Aye
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Eric Cranley
> >>
> >>
> >> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
> >>
> >>
> >> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via
> Lpk-execomm" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes from Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
> >> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The amendment to become the main motion.
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>> 4th District Chair
> >>> State Party IT Director
> >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>
> >>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I
> feel
> >>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
> >>>>
> >>>> Randall Daniel
> >>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>>> Aye
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cristi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's
> been
> no
> >>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which
> triggers an
> >>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have
> started
> >>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would
> likely
> be the
> >>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>>> 4th District Chair
> >>>>>> State Party IT Director
> >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and
> then tabled
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> email. That's how we got here. The original motion
> was
> to give
> >>>>>>> D6 an
> >>>>>>> additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to
> let
> them buy
> >>>>>>> gear
> >>>>>>> and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was
> needed to
> >>>>>>> open a
> >>>>>>> bank account (some banks require that much, some
> don't).
> >>>>>>> I second Cristi's official amendment.
> >>>>>>> I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party
> level and
> >>>>>>> distribute to all affiliates (including county
> affiliates) and if
> >>>>>>> D6
> >>>>>>> needs the extra funds to open an account to do that
> part
> too.
> >>>>>>> Ken
> >>>>>>> Sent from Android device
> >>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via
> Lpk-execomm
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion
> would
> >>>>>>> read as
> >>>>>>> follows: LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper
> stickers and
> >>>>>>> distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs
> $100 to
> >>>>>>> open a
> >>>>>>> bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from
> whatever
> >>>>>>> funds are
> >>>>>>> currently due to them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cristi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward,
> not
> >>>>>>> amending
> >>>>>>>> the first motion?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ken
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
> >>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
> >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion: not only will this
> help
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> state
> >>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn
> and
> bc
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> items
> >>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party can help other
> >>>>>>> affiliates
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions
> that
> >>>>>>> may be
> >>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank
> account.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cristi
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
> >>>>>>> original
> >>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment. :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
> >>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
> >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The
> LPStore
> is
> >>>>>>> running out
> >>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too
> have
> >>>>>>> been
> >>>>>>> busy
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
> >>>>>>> discount
> >>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50
> for
> >>>>>>> 500
> >>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter,
> we
> >>>>>>> bought
> >>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60
> expenditure
> by
> >>>>>>> LPKY
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the
> intention
> to
> >>>>>>> share
> >>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
> >>>>>>> improved
> >>>>>>> banner
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6,
> or
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> least
> >>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
> >>>>>>> Kentucky -
> >>>>>>> 6th
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting
> in
> >>>>>>> Miami.
> >>>>>>> I've
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid
> LP
> >>>>>>> stuff
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. I did get to see the beach anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out
> if
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> state
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
> >>>>>>> bulk) and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts? We burned a LOT of
> >>>>>>> literature
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4
> and
> I
> >>>>>>> assume
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
> >>>>>>> going to
> >>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before
> the
> >>>>>>> deadline to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
> >>>>>>> Maybe,
> >>>>>>> maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not. Depends on the bank. I think Hugenberg had
> his
> >>>>>>> campaign
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to
> open
> >>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be
> made
> >>>>>>> conditional:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the
> KREF
> >>>>>>> papers
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> before we cut the check
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with
> the
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding and agreement that it will be used
> to
> >>>>>>> open
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be
> filed
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of
> Kentucky
> >>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
> >>>>>>> opening a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment
> conditional
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork
> with
> >>>>>>> KREF
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
> >>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We cannot appropriate funds if the district
> >>>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at
> the
> >>>>>>> state
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can give those to D6 as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to
> give
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people with interest.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the few questions I have:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking
> for?
> >>>>>>> Would
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org
> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing? If so,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind
> anything
> >>>>>>> larger
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line
> added.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to
> buy
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and distribute?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Android device
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
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> 502-457-6765
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