[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

Ken Moellman ken.moellman at lpky.org
Thu Nov 21 15:06:00 EST 2019


The amendment to become the main motion.

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Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
4th District Chair
State Party IT Director
Libertarian Party of Kentucky

On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I feel
> we've lost something in a break from format.
> 
> Randall Daniel
> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>> Aye
>> 
>> Cristi
>> 
>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>> 
>>> All -
>>> 
>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been no 
>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which triggers an 
>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
>>> 
>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have started 
>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely be the 
>>> grounds upon which to make it.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>> 4th District Chair
>>> State Party IT Director
>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and then tabled 
>>>> to
>>>>    email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion was to give 
>>>> D6 an
>>>>    additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let them buy 
>>>> gear
>>>>    and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was needed to 
>>>> open a
>>>>    bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
>>>>    I second Cristi's official amendment.
>>>>    I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party level and
>>>>    distribute to all affiliates (including county affiliates) and if 
>>>> D6
>>>>    needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part too.
>>>>    Ken
>>>>    Sent from Android device
>>>>    On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>    <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion would 
>>>> read as
>>>>      follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper stickers and
>>>>      distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs $100 to 
>>>> open a
>>>>      bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from whatever 
>>>> funds are
>>>>      currently due to them.
>>>> 
>>>>      Cristi
>>>> 
>>>>      On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>      > Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
>>>>      amending
>>>>      > the first motion?
>>>>      >
>>>>      > ken
>>>>      >
>>>>      > ---
>>>>      > Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>      > 4th District Chair
>>>>      > State Party IT Director
>>>>      > Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>      >
>>>>      > On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
>>>>      >> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this help 
>>>> the
>>>>      state
>>>>      >> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and bc 
>>>> the
>>>>      items
>>>>      >> are so discounted, the state party  can help other 
>>>> affiliates
>>>>      with
>>>>      >> additional schwag.
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that 
>>>> may be
>>>>      >> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >> Cristi
>>>>      >>
>>>>      >>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
>>>>      <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>>      >>> wrote:
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the 
>>>> original
>>>>      >>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>> ---
>>>>      >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>      >>> 4th District Chair
>>>>      >>> State Party IT Director
>>>>      >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>      >>>
>>>>      >>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>      >>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore is
>>>>      running out
>>>>      >>>> of these items.
>>>>      >>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>      >>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have 
>>>> been
>>>>      busy
>>>>      >>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the 
>>>> discount
>>>>      >>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50 for 
>>>> 500
>>>>      >>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter, we
>>>>      bought
>>>>      >>>>> them out).
>>>>      >>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure by 
>>>> LPKY
>>>>      for
>>>>      >>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention to
>>>>      share
>>>>      >>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
>>>>      >>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and 
>>>> improved
>>>>      banner
>>>>      >>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or 
>>>> at
>>>>      least
>>>>      >>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
>>>>      >>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>      >>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of 
>>>> Kentucky -
>>>>      6th
>>>>      >>>>>> District"
>>>>      >>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in 
>>>> Miami.
>>>>      I've
>>>>      >>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP 
>>>> stuff
>>>>      all
>>>>      >>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
>>>>      >>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out if 
>>>> the
>>>>      state
>>>>      >>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
>>>>      >>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in 
>>>> bulk) and
>>>>      >>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of 
>>>> literature
>>>>      this
>>>>      >>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and I
>>>>      assume
>>>>      >>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
>>>>      >>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not 
>>>> going to
>>>>      get
>>>>      >>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
>>>>      deadline to
>>>>      >>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
>>>>      >>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account? 
>>>> Maybe,
>>>>      maybe
>>>>      >>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had his
>>>>      campaign
>>>>      >>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open 
>>>> it.
>>>>      >>>>>> ---
>>>>      >>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>      >>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>      >>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>      >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>      >>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>      >>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>      >>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
>>>>      conditional:
>>>>      >>>>>>>  * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF 
>>>> papers
>>>>      are
>>>>      >>>>>>> filed
>>>>      >>>>>>>    before we cut the check
>>>>      >>>>>>>  * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the 
>>>> the
>>>>      >>>>>>>    understanding and agreement that it will be used to 
>>>> open
>>>>      the
>>>>      >>>>>>> account
>>>>      >>>>>>>    and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be filed 
>>>> in
>>>>      >>>>>>> conjunction
>>>>      >>>>>>>    with that.
>>>>      >>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of Kentucky 
>>>> -
>>>>      >>>>>>> District 6,"
>>>>      >>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by 
>>>> opening a
>>>>      >>>>>>> checking
>>>>      >>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
>>>>      >>>>>>> - John
>>>>      >>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>      >>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional 
>>>> on
>>>>      them
>>>>      >>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with 
>>>> KREF
>>>>      >>>>>>>> regarding same?
>>>>      >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via 
>>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    We cannot appropriate funds if the district 
>>>> doesn't
>>>>      have a
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> bank
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    account.
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at the
>>>>      state
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> level and we
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    can give those to D6 as well.
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to give 
>>>> out
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> something to
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    people with interest.
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    So the few questions I have:
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?  
>>>> Would
>>>>      the
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that 
>>>> is
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> appealing?  If so,
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind anything
>>>>      larger
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> than 3x5
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to buy 
>>>> this
>>>>      in
>>>>      >>>>>>>>> bulk instead
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    and distribute?
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    Ken
>>>>      >>>>>>>>>    Sent from Android device
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>>>>      >>>> Secretary,
>>>>      >>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>      >>>> Membership & Outreach Director
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>>>>      Cristi Kendrick
>>>>      Secretary,
>>>>      Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>      Membership & Outreach Director
>>>>      502-457-6765
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