[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

randall.daniel at lpky.org randall.daniel at lpky.org
Thu Nov 21 13:48:57 EST 2019


Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I feel we've 
lost something in a break from format.

Randall Daniel
On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> Aye
> 
> Cristi
> 
> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>> 
>> All -
>> 
>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been no 
>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which triggers an 
>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
>> 
>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have started with 
>> "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely be the 
>> grounds upon which to make it.
>> 
>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> 4th District Chair
>> State Party IT Director
>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>> 
>> 
>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and then tabled 
>>> to
>>>    email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion was to give 
>>> D6 an
>>>    additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let them buy 
>>> gear
>>>    and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was needed to 
>>> open a
>>>    bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
>>>    I second Cristi's official amendment.
>>>    I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party level and
>>>    distribute to all affiliates (including county affiliates) and if 
>>> D6
>>>    needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part too.
>>>    Ken
>>>    Sent from Android device
>>>    On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>    <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>      I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion would read 
>>> as
>>>      follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper stickers and
>>>      distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs $100 to 
>>> open a
>>>      bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from whatever funds 
>>> are
>>>      currently due to them.
>>> 
>>>      Cristi
>>> 
>>>      On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>      > Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
>>>      amending
>>>      > the first motion?
>>>      >
>>>      > ken
>>>      >
>>>      > ---
>>>      > Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>      > 4th District Chair
>>>      > State Party IT Director
>>>      > Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>      >
>>>      > On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
>>>      >> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this help the
>>>      state
>>>      >> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and bc 
>>> the
>>>      items
>>>      >> are so discounted, the state party  can help other affiliates
>>>      with
>>>      >> additional schwag.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that may 
>>> be
>>>      >> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Cristi
>>>      >>
>>>      >>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
>>>      <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>      >>> wrote:
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the 
>>> original
>>>      >>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> ---
>>>      >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>      >>> 4th District Chair
>>>      >>> State Party IT Director
>>>      >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>      >>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore is
>>>      running out
>>>      >>>> of these items.
>>>      >>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm 
>>> wrote:
>>>      >>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have 
>>> been
>>>      busy
>>>      >>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the 
>>> discount
>>>      >>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50 for 
>>> 500
>>>      >>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter, we
>>>      bought
>>>      >>>>> them out).
>>>      >>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure by 
>>> LPKY
>>>      for
>>>      >>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention to
>>>      share
>>>      >>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
>>>      >>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and 
>>> improved
>>>      banner
>>>      >>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or at
>>>      least
>>>      >>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
>>>      >>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>      >>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of Kentucky 
>>> -
>>>      6th
>>>      >>>>>> District"
>>>      >>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in 
>>> Miami.
>>>      I've
>>>      >>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP 
>>> stuff
>>>      all
>>>      >>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
>>>      >>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out if 
>>> the
>>>      state
>>>      >>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
>>>      >>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in bulk) 
>>> and
>>>      >>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of 
>>> literature
>>>      this
>>>      >>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and I
>>>      assume
>>>      >>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
>>>      >>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not going 
>>> to
>>>      get
>>>      >>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
>>>      deadline to
>>>      >>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
>>>      >>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account? 
>>> Maybe,
>>>      maybe
>>>      >>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had his
>>>      campaign
>>>      >>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open it.
>>>      >>>>>> ---
>>>      >>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>      >>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>      >>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>      >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>      >>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>      >>>>>>> Chris,
>>>      >>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
>>>      conditional:
>>>      >>>>>>>  * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF 
>>> papers
>>>      are
>>>      >>>>>>> filed
>>>      >>>>>>>    before we cut the check
>>>      >>>>>>>  * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the 
>>> the
>>>      >>>>>>>    understanding and agreement that it will be used to 
>>> open
>>>      the
>>>      >>>>>>> account
>>>      >>>>>>>    and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be filed 
>>> in
>>>      >>>>>>> conjunction
>>>      >>>>>>>    with that.
>>>      >>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of Kentucky -
>>>      >>>>>>> District 6,"
>>>      >>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by 
>>> opening a
>>>      >>>>>>> checking
>>>      >>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
>>>      >>>>>>> - John
>>>      >>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm 
>>> wrote:
>>>      >>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional on
>>>      them
>>>      >>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with 
>>> KREF
>>>      >>>>>>>> regarding same?
>>>      >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>      >>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via 
>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>      >>>>>>>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    We cannot appropriate funds if the district doesn't
>>>      have a
>>>      >>>>>>>>> bank
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    account.
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at the
>>>      state
>>>      >>>>>>>>> level and we
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    can give those to D6 as well.
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to give 
>>> out
>>>      >>>>>>>>> something to
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    people with interest.
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    So the few questions I have:
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?  
>>> Would
>>>      the
>>>      >>>>>>>>> existing
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that is
>>>      >>>>>>>>> appealing?  If so,
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind anything
>>>      larger
>>>      >>>>>>>>> than 3x5
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to buy 
>>> this
>>>      in
>>>      >>>>>>>>> bulk instead
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    and distribute?
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    Ken
>>>      >>>>>>>>>    Sent from Android device
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>>>      >>>> Secretary,
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>>>      Secretary,
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>>>      Membership & Outreach Director
>>>      502-457-6765
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