[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

Liberty Felix mark420.freedom at gmail.com
Fri Nov 22 14:39:20 EST 2019


Yes from Mark


On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:

> The amendment to become the main motion.
>
> ---
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> 4th District Chair
> State Party IT Director
> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>
> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> > Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I feel
> > we've lost something in a break from format.
> >
> > Randall Daniel
> > On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >> Aye
> >>
> >> Cristi
> >>
> >> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>
> >>> All -
> >>>
> >>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been no
> >>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which triggers an
> >>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
> >>>
> >>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have started
> >>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely be the
> >>> grounds upon which to make it.
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>> 4th District Chair
> >>> State Party IT Director
> >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and then tabled
> >>>> to
> >>>>    email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion was to give
> >>>> D6 an
> >>>>    additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let them buy
> >>>> gear
> >>>>    and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was needed to
> >>>> open a
> >>>>    bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
> >>>>    I second Cristi's official amendment.
> >>>>    I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party level and
> >>>>    distribute to all affiliates (including county affiliates) and if
> >>>> D6
> >>>>    needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part too.
> >>>>    Ken
> >>>>    Sent from Android device
> >>>>    On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> >>>>    <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>      I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion would
> >>>> read as
> >>>>      follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper stickers and
> >>>>      distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs $100 to
> >>>> open a
> >>>>      bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from whatever
> >>>> funds are
> >>>>      currently due to them.
> >>>>
> >>>>      Cristi
> >>>>
> >>>>      On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
> >>>>      > Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
> >>>>      amending
> >>>>      > the first motion?
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > ken
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > ---
> >>>>      > Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>      > 4th District Chair
> >>>>      > State Party IT Director
> >>>>      > Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>      >
> >>>>      > On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
> >>>>      >> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this help
> >>>> the
> >>>>      state
> >>>>      >> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and bc
> >>>> the
> >>>>      items
> >>>>      >> are so discounted, the state party  can help other
> >>>> affiliates
> >>>>      with
> >>>>      >> additional schwag.
> >>>>      >>
> >>>>      >> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that
> >>>> may be
> >>>>      >> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
> >>>>      >>
> >>>>      >> Cristi
> >>>>      >>
> >>>>      >>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
> >>>>      <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> >>>>      >>> wrote:
> >>>>      >>>
> >>>>      >>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
> >>>> original
> >>>>      >>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
> >>>>      >>>
> >>>>      >>> ---
> >>>>      >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>      >>> 4th District Chair
> >>>>      >>> State Party IT Director
> >>>>      >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>      >>>
> >>>>      >>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>      >>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore is
> >>>>      running out
> >>>>      >>>> of these items.
> >>>>      >>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>      >>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have
> >>>> been
> >>>>      busy
> >>>>      >>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
> >>>> discount
> >>>>      >>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50 for
> >>>> 500
> >>>>      >>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter, we
> >>>>      bought
> >>>>      >>>>> them out).
> >>>>      >>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure by
> >>>> LPKY
> >>>>      for
> >>>>      >>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention to
> >>>>      share
> >>>>      >>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
> >>>>      >>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
> >>>> improved
> >>>>      banner
> >>>>      >>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or
> >>>> at
> >>>>      least
> >>>>      >>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
> >>>>      >>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>>      >>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
> >>>> Kentucky -
> >>>>      6th
> >>>>      >>>>>> District"
> >>>>      >>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in
> >>>> Miami.
> >>>>      I've
> >>>>      >>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP
> >>>> stuff
> >>>>      all
> >>>>      >>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
> >>>>      >>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out if
> >>>> the
> >>>>      state
> >>>>      >>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
> >>>>      >>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
> >>>> bulk) and
> >>>>      >>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of
> >>>> literature
> >>>>      this
> >>>>      >>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and I
> >>>>      assume
> >>>>      >>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
> >>>>      >>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
> >>>> going to
> >>>>      get
> >>>>      >>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
> >>>>      deadline to
> >>>>      >>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
> >>>>      >>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
> >>>> Maybe,
> >>>>      maybe
> >>>>      >>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had his
> >>>>      campaign
> >>>>      >>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open
> >>>> it.
> >>>>      >>>>>> ---
> >>>>      >>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> >>>>      >>>>>> 4th District Chair
> >>>>      >>>>>> State Party IT Director
> >>>>      >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>      >>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> >>>>      >>>>>>> Chris,
> >>>>      >>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
> >>>>      conditional:
> >>>>      >>>>>>>  * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF
> >>>> papers
> >>>>      are
> >>>>      >>>>>>> filed
> >>>>      >>>>>>>    before we cut the check
> >>>>      >>>>>>>  * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the
> >>>> the
> >>>>      >>>>>>>    understanding and agreement that it will be used to
> >>>> open
> >>>>      the
> >>>>      >>>>>>> account
> >>>>      >>>>>>>    and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be filed
> >>>> in
> >>>>      >>>>>>> conjunction
> >>>>      >>>>>>>    with that.
> >>>>      >>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>> -
> >>>>      >>>>>>> District 6,"
> >>>>      >>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
> >>>> opening a
> >>>>      >>>>>>> checking
> >>>>      >>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
> >>>>      >>>>>>> - John
> >>>>      >>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>      >>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional
> >>>> on
> >>>>      them
> >>>>      >>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with
> >>>> KREF
> >>>>      >>>>>>>> regarding same?
> >>>>      >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
> >>>> Lpk-execomm
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    We cannot appropriate funds if the district
> >>>> doesn't
> >>>>      have a
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> bank
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    account.
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at the
> >>>>      state
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> level and we
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    can give those to D6 as well.
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to give
> >>>> out
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> something to
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    people with interest.
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    So the few questions I have:
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?
> >>>> Would
> >>>>      the
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> existing
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that
> >>>> is
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> appealing?  If so,
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind anything
> >>>>      larger
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> than 3x5
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to buy
> >>>> this
> >>>>      in
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>> bulk instead
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    and distribute?
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    Ken
> >>>>      >>>>>>>>>    Sent from Android device
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> >>>>      >>>> Cristi Kendrick
> >>>>      >>>> Secretary,
> >>>>      >>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>      >>>> Membership & Outreach Director
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> >>>>      Cristi Kendrick
> >>>>      Secretary,
> >>>>      Libertarian Party of Kentucky
> >>>>      Membership & Outreach Director
> >>>>      502-457-6765
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