[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

John Hicks john.hicks at lpky.org
Sat Nov 30 22:15:41 EST 2019 

Aye

- John Hicks


On 11/30/2019 02:14 PM, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> aye,
> Randall
>
> On 2019-11-30 12:08, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>> Aye
>>
>> Live Free & Carry On,
>> Bryan S. Short, Vice Chair
>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm 
>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Aye
>>>
>>> Dan Hull (per our conversation)
>>>
>>>> On 11/22/19 5:29 PM, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>> Aye
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm 
>>>>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Aye
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Cranley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via 
>>>>>> Lpk-execomm" <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes from Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
>>>>> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The amendment to become the main motion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I feel
>>>>>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Randall Daniel
>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>> Aye
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been no
>>>>>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which 
>>>>>>>>> triggers an
>>>>>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have started
>>>>>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely 
>>>>>>>>> be the
>>>>>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and then 
>>>>>>>>>> tabled
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>   email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion was to 
>>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>>> D6 an
>>>>>>>>>>   additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let 
>>>>>>>>>> them buy
>>>>>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>>>>>   and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was needed to
>>>>>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>>>>>   bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
>>>>>>>>>>   I second Cristi's official amendment.
>>>>>>>>>>   I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party level 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>   distribute to all affiliates (including county affiliates) 
>>>>>>>>>> and if
>>>>>>>>>> D6
>>>>>>>>>>   needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part too.
>>>>>>>>>>   Ken
>>>>>>>>>>   Sent from Android device
>>>>>>>>>>   On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion would
>>>>>>>>>> read as
>>>>>>>>>>     follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper 
>>>>>>>>>> stickers and
>>>>>>>>>>     distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs 
>>>>>>>>>> $100 to
>>>>>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>>>>>     bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from whatever
>>>>>>>>>> funds are
>>>>>>>>>>     currently due to them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Cristi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
>>>>>>>>>>     amending
>>>>>>>>>>> the first motion?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this help
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and bc
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     items
>>>>>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party  can help other
>>>>>>>>>> affiliates
>>>>>>>>>>     with
>>>>>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that
>>>>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
>>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore is
>>>>>>>>>>     running out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>     busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
>>>>>>>>>> discount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50 for
>>>>>>>>>> 500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter, we
>>>>>>>>>>     bought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure by
>>>>>>>>>> LPKY
>>>>>>>>>>     for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention to
>>>>>>>>>>     share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
>>>>>>>>>> improved
>>>>>>>>>>     banner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>     least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
>>>>>>>>>> Kentucky -
>>>>>>>>>>     6th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in
>>>>>>>>>> Miami.
>>>>>>>>>>     I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP
>>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>>>     all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out if
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
>>>>>>>>>> bulk) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of
>>>>>>>>>> literature
>>>>>>>>>>     this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and I
>>>>>>>>>>     assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>     get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
>>>>>>>>>>     deadline to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>     maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had his
>>>>>>>>>>     campaign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
>>>>>>>>>>     conditional:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF
>>>>>>>>>> papers
>>>>>>>>>>     are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   before we cut the check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding and agreement that it will be used to
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be filed
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
>>>>>>>>>> opening a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>     them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with
>>>>>>>>>> KREF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
>>>>>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We cannot appropriate funds if the district
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>     have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at the
>>>>>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   can give those to D6 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to give
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   people with interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   So the few questions I have:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?
>>>>>>>>>> Would
>>>>>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing? If so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind anything
>>>>>>>>>>     larger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to buy
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>     in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   and distribute?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Sent from Android device
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cristi Kendrick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership & Outreach Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 502-457-6765
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>>>>>>>>>>     Cristi Kendrick
>>>>>>>>>>     Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>     Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>     Membership & Outreach Director
>>>>>>>>>>     502-457-6765
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>>> Membership & Outreach Director
>>> 502-457-6765
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