[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion
randall.daniel at lpky.org
randall.daniel at lpky.org
Sat Nov 30 14:14:57 EST 2019
aye,
Randall
On 2019-11-30 12:08, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm wrote:
> Aye
>
> Live Free & Carry On,
> Bryan S. Short, Vice Chair
> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>
>> On Nov 23, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>
>> Aye
>>
>> Dan Hull (per our conversation)
>>
>>> On 11/22/19 5:29 PM, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>> Aye
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm
>>>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Aye
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric Cranley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via
>>>>> Lpk-execomm" <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Yes from Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
>>>> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The amendment to become the main motion.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I feel
>>>>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Randall Daniel
>>>>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>> Aye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been no
>>>>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which
>>>>>>>> triggers an
>>>>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have
>>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely be
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and then
>>>>>>>>> tabled
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> email. That's how we got here. The original motion was to
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> D6 an
>>>>>>>>> additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let them
>>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>>>> and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was needed
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>>>> bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
>>>>>>>>> I second Cristi's official amendment.
>>>>>>>>> I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party level
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> distribute to all affiliates (including county affiliates)
>>>>>>>>> and if
>>>>>>>>> D6
>>>>>>>>> needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part too.
>>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>> Sent from Android device
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion would
>>>>>>>>> read as
>>>>>>>>> follows: LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper stickers
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs $100
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>>>> bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from whatever
>>>>>>>>> funds are
>>>>>>>>> currently due to them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
>>>>>>>>> amending
>>>>>>>>>> the first motion?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion: not only will this help
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and bc
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> items
>>>>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party can help other
>>>>>>>>> affiliates
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that
>>>>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
>>>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore is
>>>>>>>>> running out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> busy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
>>>>>>>>> discount
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50 for
>>>>>>>>> 500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter, we
>>>>>>>>> bought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure by
>>>>>>>>> LPKY
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention to
>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
>>>>>>>>> improved
>>>>>>>>> banner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
>>>>>>>>> Kentucky -
>>>>>>>>> 6th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in
>>>>>>>>> Miami.
>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP
>>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend. I did get to see the beach anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out if
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
>>>>>>>>> bulk) and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts? We burned a LOT of
>>>>>>>>> literature
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and I
>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
>>>>>>>>> deadline to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
>>>>>>>>> Maybe,
>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. Depends on the bank. I think Hugenberg had his
>>>>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
>>>>>>>>> conditional:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF
>>>>>>>>> papers
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before we cut the check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding and agreement that it will be used to
>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be filed
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
>>>>>>>>> opening a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with
>>>>>>>>> KREF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
>>>>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We cannot appropriate funds if the district
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at the
>>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can give those to D6 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to give
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people with interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So the few questions I have:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?
>>>>>>>>> Would
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing? If so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind anything
>>>>>>>>> larger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to buy
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and distribute?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Android device
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership & Outreach Director
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>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>> Membership & Outreach Director
>>>>>>>>> 502-457-6765
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