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All proposals now in one document, by proposal with notations
by Ken Moellman 04 Oct '19

04 Oct '19

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QJMCMK4xYjpYMGoaG8gzkJP10s7ZNxpKW5XuVFD… I went through EVERYTHING and found more non-substantive things that we can talk about on the next call. I also made every proposal a "heading" so if you're on a desktop there's an index on the left you can click by proposal. I also made a notation on each proposal showing if it's Substantive or Non-Substantive, and if it's Constitution, Operating Rules, or Global. I also have one that I'd like to move to reconsider at the next meeting as well, as it's the same topic but I didn't propose a wide enough scope originally. -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky

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Rules Comm meeting? Time is actually short...
by Ken Moellman 12 Aug '19

12 Aug '19

All - I think it is important to start meeting at some time soon. I am looking for 2 other members to co-sponsor the holding of a meeting on August 24th at the Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort, from 1PM to 4:30PM, with a backup location being one of the hotels in Frankfort with meeting space (if Paul Sawyier fills up before reservations are made). Further, without officers in the committee, there's a question about where members would submit their proposals from outside of the committee. Once established, all records should be held by the committee secretary (ideally, IMO, on Google Drive) Working backwards through the timeline: March 2020 - state convention Mid-Jan/Mid-Feb 2020 - final Rules Comm report is due Late Nov and All December 2019 - Holidays and vacations It's now about mid-August. August 17th has multiple events happening the same day. Therefore, I think August 24th is the earliest reasonable time we can meet to start. That reasonably leaves Sept, Oct, and the first half of November to do this work, plus a "finalization" during the first two weeks of January. That's only 10 weeks of work, and 2 weeks of any cleanup. In my experience, rules proposals should be taken slowly and considered over time. The ram-rodding of ideas without consideration of the ramifications is what caused the problems post-2017, and while much has been cleaned up, issues still linger that need to be resolved (IMO, anyway). -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky

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Proposals
by Ken Moellman 23 Jul '19

23 Jul '19

All - I propose that we meet in-person in Louisville on August 17th. The state fair will be going that day, and some or all of us could work the fair part of the day and do Rules Committee the other part of the day. Also, because I'm always doing such things, I've got a list of proposals lined up. I don't know that we'd even begin to address these at a first meeting, but if anyone is interested, I have a Google Doc. I also suggest we use Google Docs to document proposals so things don't get "lost" in revisions. The link to my current thoughts/proposals is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10nP2dUqdy9CwBf5Aj7hZiIXB_5GVDhzdhJrazJI… ... And you should have received an invite to view it. You can also comment as well. This is my doc, and we should have a separate one for committee output. :) -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky

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List set up
by Ken Moellman 08 Jul '19

08 Jul '19

All - The Rules Committee List has been set up. You can email it by sending email to lpk-rules(a)lists.lpky.org ... We should meet sometime soon, and decide who the chair and secretary of the committee will be. Given some issues with "multiple versions" causing loss of information, I would suggest that we create a master Google Doc with the proposed changes displayed in-line, and a second Google Doc to track individual changes. But that's something for the committee to decide. -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky

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Re: [Lpk-rules] Moellman Addendum per Bylaws
by Ken Moellman 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

Hey Lex, Thanks for this. I noticed that I had a mistake in the "Clean" version and I have attached the corrected version. The change was made in the Markup but was missed in the "Clean". It is the portion about "good standing" being tied to Kentucky /campaign finance/ law. The addendum was "campaign finance". This was agreed to in the Rules Committee as a good change. Would you mind swapping it out? This should comply with the bylaws as the Markup version was the intended version, and the Clean version is there just for readability's sake. --- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. LPKY State Party Treasurer On 2019-02-22 13:25, Lex Hannan wrote: > Ken, > > As you requested I have posted your (three) files to the website, LPKY.ORG. Your files are linked to the Agenda page. The link to your and Rules Committee documents is: > > * Rules Proposals (click here to view various versions of Constitution, Bylaws & Operating rules) [1] > > Please let me know if you have improvements for the links I created for your docs. > > In liberty, > > Lex > > --- > Lex Hannan > Communications Director > Libertarian Party of Kentucky > > On 2019-02-16 00:11, Ken Moellman wrote: > > Sending Constitution, Operating Rules to Rules Comm List and Lex for posting / updating on the website .. To keep things from getting insane it would probably be best to remove the originally-posted and replace with these. > > I'm still working on Bylaws, since the Elections Committee did release their rules and I need to compare/contrast/take from that report and add to my proposal. > > --- > Ken C. Moellman, Jr. > LPKY State Party Treasurer > > On 2019-02-15 23:59, Ken Moellman via Lpk-rules wrote: > > Under the wire. I found a couple errors in the others. Here's the Constitution. > > --- > Ken C. Moellman, Jr. > LPKY State Party Treasurer > > On 2019-02-15 23:49, Ken Moellman via Lpk-rules wrote: > > All - > > I am attaching the addendum / revision as permitted by the bylaws. This is the closing period of the comments and revisions for the Constitution under the existing bylaws. > > I believe I captured all of the changes to which we agreed. There are still some discrepancies where decisions will need to be made on the floor. But I think I captured everything else. > > I'll break up the document as I did before next, but I needed to get this in before midnight to comply. It's 11:50PM. :) > > -- > Ken C. Moellman, Jr. > LPKY State Party Treasurer > _______________________________________________ > Lpk-rules mailing list > Lpk-rules(a)lists.lpky.org > http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpk-rules > _______________________________________________ > Lpk-rules mailing list > Lpk-rules(a)lists.lpky.org > http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpk-rules Links: ------ [1] https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/

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Moellman Addendum per Bylaws
by Ken Moellman 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

All - I am attaching the addendum / revision as permitted by the bylaws. This is the closing period of the comments and revisions for the Constitution under the existing bylaws. I believe I captured all of the changes to which we agreed. There are still some discrepancies where decisions will need to be made on the floor. But I think I captured everything else. I'll break up the document as I did before next, but I needed to get this in before midnight to comply. It's 11:50PM. :) -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. LPKY State Party Treasurer

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Operating Rules
by chris.wiest＠lpky.org 12 Feb '19

12 Feb '19

Folks: I am attaching the Operating Rules draft that we got through Saturday (in pdf). The stuff in red was stuff in dispute/contention. Black and underlined was items of agreement. I am also attaching a revised constitutional proposal that came out of our meeting (I think this was unanimous, please confirm). In term of procedure: I think if either Mr. Hicks or Mr. Capano would like to vote on the competing proposals in 500.0 related to dues, they can do so. Same with the 500.2 proposal. And the 600.1.3 related to at-large. And 600.5.2.5 related to minutes for committees. I need votes from everyone on the 700.1.2 provisions related to conventions and scheduling of them. Mr. Moellman’s proposal is first, and my alternative proposal is second. If anyone has any alternatives, those are also in order. Please take a look at the 700.1.2.5/7 language about affiliate dissolution. I tweaked Ken’s, and it is red, but I think we are really close. I need votes on 700.1.10 regarding mandating an agenda, particularly at affiliate conventions. Mr. Moellman’s is first, my alternative is second. We need proposals on the following: 1000.1: in kind donations 1000.2: ethics, nepotism, conflicts of interest 1000.3: party records / open records 1000.4: financial controls and party assets 1000.5: default standing convention rules I was going to take a stab this evening, and looked at Ken’s proposals as well. We may have agreement on a good bit of it (maybe 85%), but are likely to have some disagreement on some as well. If anyone else has ideas, those are also in order. -Chris

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Saturday and const comments
by Ken Moellman 11 Feb '19

11 Feb '19

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Re: [Lpk-rules] Convention reports and proposals posted on website
by Ken Moellman 08 Feb '19

08 Feb '19

Here is the markup version, attached. --- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. LPKY State Party Treasurer On 2019-02-07 19:56, Lex Hannan wrote: > Ken, Sorry I just saw your request. I will attempt to post your PDF markup versions for the Convention and By-Laws. Where are they? > > Lex > > --- > Lex Hannan > Communications Director > Libertarian Party of Kentucky > > On 2019-02-06 19:32, Ken Moellman wrote: > > Can you also post the PDF of the markup version of my proposal? It contains all of the notes and is the format generally used in Libertarian conventions these days. > > If I can get caught up, I plan to create the same format for the committee report. Apples to apples, and all. > > --- > Ken C. Moellman, Jr. > LPKY State Party Treasurer > > On 2019-02-06 19:10, John Hicks via Lpk-rules wrote: > > Folks, I've posted the PDFs on the website for > > * the Rules Committee report [1], > * Ken's two proposals (Constitution [2] and Bylaws [3]), and > * the Elections Committee report [4] > > I added a page for the Rules Proposals [5], listing both the committee report and Ken's proposals. > > I added a link on the current governance page [6] to the Rules Proposals page. > > I added links on the Convention Event page [7] to the Rules Proposals page and the Election Committee report. > > I edited the blog post on the convention [8] to indicate that these reports are present. > > The aforesaid blog post shows up on the lpky.org home page [9]. > > I haven't yet found the time to post html versions of any of these. > > Let me know if you have any corrections or suggestions for improvements. > > Thanks, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Lpk-rules mailing list > Lpk-rules(a)lists.lpky.org > http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpk-rules Links: ------ [1] https://lpky.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2019/02/RulesReport-12-20-18-c… [2] https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/moell… [3] https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/moell… [4] https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/elect… [5] https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/ [6] https://lpky.org/about/governance/ [7] https://lpky.org/event/2019-lp-kentucky-state-convention-2019-03-02/ [8] https://lpky.org/2019/01/12/2019-ky-libertarian-party-convention/ [9] https://lpky.org/

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Convention reports and proposals posted on website
by John Hicks 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

Folks, I've posted the PDFs on the website for * the Rules Committee report <https://lpky.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2019/02/RulesReport-12-20-18-c…>, * Ken's two proposals (Constitution <https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/moell…> and Bylaws <https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/moell…>), and * the Elections Committee report <https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/elect…> I added a page for the Rules Proposals <https://lpky.org/about/governance/rules-proposals-for-2019-convention/>, listing both the committee report and Ken's proposals. I added a link on the current governance page <https://lpky.org/about/governance/> to the Rules Proposals page. I added links on the Convention Event page <https://lpky.org/event/2019-lp-kentucky-state-convention-2019-03-02/> to the Rules Proposals page and the Election Committee report. I edited the blog post on the convention <https://lpky.org/2019/01/12/2019-ky-libertarian-party-convention/> to indicate that these reports are present. The aforesaid blog post shows up on the lpky.org home page <https://lpky.org/>. I haven't yet found the time to post html versions of any of these. Let me know if you have any corrections or suggestions for improvements. Thanks, John

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