Fwd: October ExComm Meeting
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From: Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> Date: October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT To: Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> Subject: Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
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On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better
On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
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On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act
On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Hey Team,
Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM:
Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e... Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q... Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck. -- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
_______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Summary of the Financial Sanity Act.docx> _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Materials re David Perdue and Financial Sanity Act.pdf>
Good, vote against it I suggest you try coming up with something that helps solve the problems I'm tired of trying and getting feedback like yours On 10/13/2019 6:53 PM, Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
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*From:* Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> *Date:* October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT *To:* Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> *Subject:* *Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting*
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better
On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act
On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Hey Team,
Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM:
1. Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e...
2. Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q...
3. Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here <https://doodle.com/poll/a9zspgxmkyb9mh2a?fbclid=IwAR0S6rdYwxb-wILndUXNdeByPO9s4mW9AQZTJmOlvUApS9v-wXvDYapWtsI> if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck.
-- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
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-- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Summary of the Financial Sanity Act.docx> _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Materials re David Perdue and Financial Sanity Act.pdf>
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I’m sorry that you don’t like my feedback. But you’re putting this up for a vote by Excom so you are going to get feedback on it. If you don’t want feedback, then go ahead and post it on your own blog under your own signature or issue your own press release as a former Senate candidate. But I’m not just going to blindly pass a resolution that I don’t think is a good idea. If you put something up for a vote you’re going to get my opinion on it. Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Good, vote against it
I suggest you try coming up with something that helps solve the problems
I'm tired of trying and getting feedback like yours
On 10/13/2019 6:53 PM, Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
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From: Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> Date: October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT To: Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> Subject: Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better
On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act
On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote: > Hey Team, > > Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM: > > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e... > Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q... > Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck. > -- > In Liberty, > Ryan Graham > Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia > > > _______________________________________________ > Lpgaexcomm mailing list > Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com > http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Summary of the Financial Sanity Act.docx> _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Materials re David Perdue and Financial Sanity Act.pdf>
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Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm
I'm with Christine on this one. We should not pass or publicize this as-written. But I know it can be tough to separate/critically edit one's own work. @AB if you'd like, I can reduce and streamline this into something more suitable for the committee to review. On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 6:54 PM Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm < lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
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*From:* Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> *Date:* October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT *To:* Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> *Subject:* *Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting*
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Hey Team,
Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM:
1. Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e...
2. Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q...
3. Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here <https://doodle.com/poll/a9zspgxmkyb9mh2a?fbclid=IwAR0S6rdYwxb-wILndUXNdeByPO9s4mW9AQZTJmOlvUApS9v-wXvDYapWtsI> if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck.
-- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
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-- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006
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-- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006
<Materials re David Perdue and Financial Sanity Act.pdf>
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Do whatever you wish Not going after sitting politicians who are hypocrites on a major issue that the LP should grab hold of is beyond me On 10/14/2019 8:40 AM, Laura Williams via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
I'm with Christine on this one. We should not pass or publicize this as-written. But I know it can be tough to separate/critically edit one's own work. @AB if you'd like, I can reduce and streamline this into something more suitable for the committee to review.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 6:54 PM Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com>> wrote:
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*From:* Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com <mailto:christine00austin@gmail.com>> *Date:* October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT *To:* Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com <mailto:ab@allenbuckleylaw.com>> *Subject:* *Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting*
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com <mailto:ab@allenbuckleylaw.com>> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better
On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> <mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act
On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Hey Team,
Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM:
1. Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e...
2. Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q...
3. Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here <https://doodle.com/poll/a9zspgxmkyb9mh2a?fbclid=IwAR0S6rdYwxb-wILndUXNdeByPO9s4mW9AQZTJmOlvUApS9v-wXvDYapWtsI> if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck.
-- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
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-- Allen Buckley
Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339
Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Materials re David Perdue and Financial Sanity Act.pdf>
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-- Allen Buckley Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339 Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006
As an Executive Committee, we should be putting together more resolutions like this to help signal our stances on specific issues as they arise, let people know of possible solutions, and also as a critique of current office holders. Part of handling this as an organization should be discussion, edits as needed, and then communicating it out once passed. In my view, the resolution is welcome. The critiques are welcome. We just need to get it to a place where we feel, as an organization, happy with the message we're putting out and put it out. --- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia On 2019-10-14 08:48, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Do whatever you wish
Not going after sitting politicians who are hypocrites on a major issue that the LP should grab hold of is beyond me
On 10/14/2019 8:40 AM, Laura Williams via Lpgaexcomm wrote: I'm with Christine on this one. We should not pass or publicize this as-written. But I know it can be tough to separate/critically edit one's own work. @AB if you'd like, I can reduce and streamline this into something more suitable for the committee to review.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 6:54 PM Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
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FROM: Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> DATE: October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT TO: Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> SUBJECT: RE: [LPGA EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE] OCTOBER EXCOMM MEETING
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can't support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better
On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote: Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act
On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Hey Team,
Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM:
* Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e... * Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q... * Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here [1] if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck.
-- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
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I don't think that anyone is saying that the resolution overall is a bad idea, it just needs to be streamlined. My initial reaction to it was that I got about a third of the way through it and then decided that I didn't have time at that moment to devote to finishing it and would have to come back to it. I think that will be the reaction of most people. In the technical writing field, the standard is that everything should be geared toward an eighth-grade reading level. That is because you do not know the educational background of your reader. People who cannot comprehend legalese still vote and we still want them on our side. The resolution is a good idea and I agree with Ryan that we need more resolutions. Saying that it should be more concise and easier to read is not a criticism of the overall resolution. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:58 AM Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm < lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
As an Executive Committee, we should be putting together more resolutions like this to help signal our stances on specific issues as they arise, let people know of possible solutions, and also as a critique of current office holders. Part of handling this as an organization should be discussion, edits as needed, and then communicating it out once passed.
In my view, the resolution is welcome. The critiques are welcome. We just need to get it to a place where we feel, as an organization, happy with the message we're putting out and put it out. --- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
On 2019-10-14 08:48, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Do whatever you wish
Not going after sitting politicians who are hypocrites on a major issue that the LP should grab hold of is beyond me On 10/14/2019 8:40 AM, Laura Williams via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
I'm with Christine on this one. We should not pass or publicize this as-written. But I know it can be tough to separate/critically edit one's own work. @AB if you'd like, I can reduce and streamline this into something more suitable for the committee to review.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 6:54 PM Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm < lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
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*From:* Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> *Date:* October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT *To:* Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> *Subject:* *Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting*
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can't support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
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On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote:
Hey Team,
Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM:
1. Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e...
2. Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q...
3. Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here <https://doodle.com/poll/a9zspgxmkyb9mh2a?fbclid=IwAR0S6rdYwxb-wILndUXNdeByPO9s4mW9AQZTJmOlvUApS9v-wXvDYapWtsI> if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck.
-- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia
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I’ll vote to pass the resolution with the conditions that it be streamlined and edited. I will also volunteer to assist Laurie with the edit. Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Laura Williams via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
I'm with Christine on this one. We should not pass or publicize this as-written. But I know it can be tough to separate/critically edit one's own work. @AB if you'd like, I can reduce and streamline this into something more suitable for the committee to review.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 6:54 PM Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
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From: Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com> Date: October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT To: Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> Subject: Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting
I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise.
I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read.
So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> wrote:
Not to be mean, but no
See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31
The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary
Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy
Sequestration would have meant spending cuts
The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better
On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote:
Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act
On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote: > Hey Team, > > Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM: > > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e... > Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q... > Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck. > -- > In Liberty, > Ryan Graham > Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia > > > _______________________________________________ > Lpgaexcomm mailing list > Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com > http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley
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Your conditions are far too vague. I would not be comfortable voting on something with such vague conditions. I would prefer to edit it first and vote on the final product. From: Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm-bounces@lists.lpgeorgia.com> On Behalf Of Stephanie Aylworth via Lpgaexcomm Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 4:47 PM To: lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com Cc: Stephanie Aylworth <stephonegoodeye@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] Fwd: October ExComm Meeting I’ll vote to pass the resolution with the conditions that it be streamlined and edited. I will also volunteer to assist Laurie with the edit. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Laura Williams via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> > wrote: I'm with Christine on this one. We should not pass or publicize this as-written. But I know it can be tough to separate/critically edit one's own work. @AB if you'd like, I can reduce and streamline this into something more suitable for the committee to review. On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 6:54 PM Christine Austin via Lpgaexcomm <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> > wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Christine Austin <christine00austin@gmail.com <mailto:christine00austin@gmail.com> > Date: October 13, 2019 at 6:51:38 PM EDT To: Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com <mailto:ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> > Subject: Re: [LPGa Executive Committee] October ExComm Meeting I disagree. We are supposed to be a part of principles. Our principles should not depend on what somebody else did or did not do. They should stand alone. And my comment was just one example of something that could be cut to make this more concise. I can’t support putting something like this out for public consumption because it takes to long to get to the point. I supported in concepts, but this is not something I would want to present to the public. We already have very little chance that anybody will read anything we put out this has even less of a chance of being read. So I think you need to decide what the point of the resolution is. If you want to go after hypocrites then go after hypocrites. But if you want to show support for the Financial Sanity Act, then focus on that. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Allen Buckley <ab@allenbuckleylaw.com <mailto:ab@allenbuckleylaw.com> > wrote: Not to be mean, but no See attached and below for reasoning; my letter was the first thing done - on 7/31 The LP has to go after hypocrites with respect to the financial issues; it's the main "in" at the federal level - I can prove if necessary Perdue ran on the financial issues; he has voted opposite to what he campaigned on, largely to keep Trump and the GA Trump lovers happy Sequestration would have meant spending cuts The more things that we can do to help whoever goes up against Perdue in 2020, the better On 10/11/2019 6:51 PM, Christine Austin wrote: Alan can you make this resolution more succinct by eliminating some of the irrelevant whereas statements. For example, who cares what David Purdue has or has not done. Our statement on the issue should not be predicated on his actions. I think this would be a much stronger statement if we can make it more concise. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Allen Buckley via Lpgaexcomm <mailto:lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> <lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> wrote: Here's an easy-to-read summary of the Financial Sanity Act On 10/11/2019 12:50 PM, Ryan Graham via Lpgaexcomm wrote: Hey Team, Just wanted to send along a couple of things prior to our meeting next Monday at 7PM: 1. Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z5xr2ko-ORp_epGgIvSyZRJ-7ZZlrcYpKFf4mt0e... 2. Please review the following resolution being put forward by Allen Buckley. It addresses our support for getting the federal budget under control, by targeting a program that is one of the worst offenders. Please be prepared to discuss on the call and potentially vote. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jsNyvWNh21yUEGxv3-vxciRf55n_nefCjOrdQ_-Q... 3. Not meeting related, but Atlanta PRIDE is THIS WEEKEND! If you'd like to help out with tabling and/or the parade, let us know. You can respond to this email with any questions. Tabling is all day Saturday and Sunday and the signup is here <https://doodle.com/poll/a9zspgxmkyb9mh2a?fbclid=IwAR0S6rdYwxb-wILndUXNdeByPO9s4mW9AQZTJmOlvUApS9v-wXvDYapWtsI> if you'd like to let us know when you'll be there. We will be meeting near the Civic Center MARTA station on Sunday morning at 9:30 to start preparing for the parade. Doug Craig is donating the use of his flatbed truck. -- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Chair, Libertarian Party of Georgia _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339 Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Summary of the Financial Sanity Act.docx> _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm -- Allen Buckley Law Office of Allen Buckley LLC Suite 750, Building 1 2727 Paces Ferry Road Atlanta, GA 30339 Phone: (678) 981-4689 Fax: (855) 243-0006 <Materials re David Perdue and Financial Sanity Act.pdf> _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm _______________________________________________ Lpgaexcomm mailing list Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com <mailto:Lpgaexcomm@lists.lpgeorgia.com> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpgaexcomm
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