Dear All, While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall. Yours truly, Nick
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect? Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here: 1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"? Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Nick, As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe the items that the COC changed which you are against and why? Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Ms. Ryan has the contract I'm going to sign. Ms. Harlos has the one the Convention Oversight Committee is suggesting. You can compare and contrast. -Nick On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:15 PM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Nick,
As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe the items that the COC changed which you are against and why?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
The COC is not suggesting anything. We voted to approve a contract with specific language and set it to the Chair for signature. He has stated that he will not sign the contract approved by the COC and thus Ms. Harlos will be able to sign it before tomorrow's deadline once the pending motion is finalized. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-31 12:21, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
Ms. Ryan has the contract I'm going to sign.
Ms. Harlos has the one the Convention Oversight Committee is suggesting.
You can compare and contrast.
-Nick
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:15 PM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Nick,
As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe the items that the COC changed which you are against and why?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Can you explain BetteRose’s position here, Sam? Is she acknowledged as Chair of the committee by the committee? Why does she seem to be at odds with at least some members of the committee? I may have missed something; in which case I beg pardon. Events are moving quickly. Susan Jane Hogarth Region 5 Alternate 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
On May 31, 2020 at 12:36 PM, <Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org)> wrote:
The COC is not suggesting anything. We voted to approve a contract with specific language and set it to the Chair for signature. He has stated that he will not sign the contract approved by the COC and thus Ms. Harlos will be able to sign it before tomorrow's deadline once the pending motion is finalized. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-31 12:21, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote: > Ms. Ryan has the contract I'm going to sign. > > Ms. Harlos has the one the Convention Oversight Committee is > suggesting. > > You can compare and contrast. > > -Nick > > On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:15 PM Richard Longstreth < > richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote: > >> Nick, >> >> As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe >> the >> items that the COC changed which you are against and why? >> >> Richard Longstreth >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >> Libertarian National Committee >> richard.longstreth@lp.org >> 931.538.9300 >> >> Sent from my Mobile Device >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth >> <richard.longstreth@lp.org> >> wrote: >> >>> I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with >>> the >>> chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; >>> am I >>> incorrect? >>> >>> Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste >>> relevant guidelines here: >>> >>> 1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? >>> 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their >>> "suggestions"? >>> >>> >>> Richard Longstreth >>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>> Libertarian National Committee >>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>> 931.538.9300 >>> >>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>> >>> On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight >>>> Committee, >>>> I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and >>>> Mr. >>>> Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall. >>>> >>>> Yours truly, >>>> Nick >>>> >>>
Susan, The COC recognizes the LNC Chair's authority to name the Chair of the Committee per the Policy Manual. We don't recognize his ability to remove a member from the Committee without our approval and that point is currently the subject of a motion before the LNC. Live Free, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-31 13:48, Susan Hogarth wrote:
Can you explain BetteRose's position here, Sam? Is she acknowledged as Chair of the committee by the committee? Why does she seem to be at odds with at least some members of the committee?
I may have missed something; in which case I beg pardon. Events are moving quickly.
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
919-906-2106 [1]
On May 31, 2020 at 12:36 PM, <Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business> wrote:
The COC is not suggesting anything. We voted to approve a contract with specific language and set it to the Chair for signature. He has stated that he will not sign the contract approved by the COC and thus Ms. Harlos will be able to sign it before tomorrow's deadline once the pending motion is finalized.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-31 12:21, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
Ms. Ryan has the contract I'm going to sign.
Ms. Harlos has the one the Convention Oversight Committee is suggesting.
You can compare and contrast.
-Nick
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:15 PM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Nick,
As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe the items that the COC changed which you are against and why?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Links: ------ [1] tel:919-906-2106
That ballot is starting today. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:44 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Susan,
The COC recognizes the LNC Chair's authority to name the Chair of the Committee per the Policy Manual. We don't recognize his ability to remove a member from the Committee without our approval and that point is currently the subject of a motion before the LNC.
Live Free,
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-31 13:48, Susan Hogarth wrote:
Can you explain BetteRose's position here, Sam? Is she acknowledged as Chair of the committee by the committee? Why does she seem to be at odds with at least some members of the committee?
I may have missed something; in which case I beg pardon. Events are moving quickly.
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
919-906-2106 [1]
On May 31, 2020 at 12:36 PM, <Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business> wrote:
The COC is not suggesting anything. We voted to approve a contract with specific language and set it to the Chair for signature. He has stated that he will not sign the contract approved by the COC and thus Ms. Harlos will be able to sign it before tomorrow's deadline once the pending motion is finalized.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-31 12:21, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
Ms. Ryan has the contract I'm going to sign.
Ms. Harlos has the one the Convention Oversight Committee is suggesting.
You can compare and contrast.
-Nick
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:15 PM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Nick,
As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe the items that the COC changed which you are against and why?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Dear All, > > While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight > Committee, > I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and > Mr. > Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall. > > Yours truly, > Nick >
Links: ------ [1] tel:919-906-2106
So it appeara the only thing you are not willing to sign off on is LNC approval to cancel. That answers my first question. Can you explain why you won't sign with those terms? I'm trying to practice good faith here. If there is something I am missing, please let myself, and everyone else know. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sun, May 31, 2020, 09:21 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Ms. Ryan has the contract I'm going to sign.
Ms. Harlos has the one the Convention Oversight Committee is suggesting.
You can compare and contrast.
-Nick
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:15 PM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Nick,
As most of the LNC has not seen the latest version, can you describe the items that the COC changed which you are against and why?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:46 Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
I can't answer question number one right now, because I'm driving and would need to pull up documentation. But the answer to your question number 2 is NO. On Sun, May 31, 2020, 10:46 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I believe that the policy manual states that the COC approves with the chair signing. I am not in a place where I can verify that right now; am I incorrect?
Two important questions need to be answered and please copy and paste relevant guidelines here:
1) Is the COC required to approve the convention contract? 2) Did the COC approve the previous version prior to adding their "suggestions"?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 31, 2020, 08:24 Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Sorry, but that contract was not approved by the COC and is void. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-31 11:24, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
I suppose I should thank the chair for at least telling us that he intends to act outside of his authority...?? I'm not sure whether LNC members are getting the track-changes version or a changes-accepted version, but let me highlight for you the differences between the Nick version and the COC version: 1) COC added a sentence in "21. Cancellation" 2) COC added a sentence in "24. Force Majeure" 3) COC added two phrases in "30. Confirmation" noting that this version is COC-approved and supersedes any previous version 4) COC also struck out the name of Robert Kraus as the person the hotel expected to sign and replaced with "Officer", but that wasn't going to happen anyway. It was just a placeholder. To be very clear for our readers, the version Nick says he intends to sign is the one he believes he can unilaterally cancel. The COC-authorized version says the cancellation or force-majeure clauses may only be exercised by an affirmative vote of the LNC. That is the difference. -Alicia On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:24 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
I know the chair is aware of these things, and he may not care, but for the edification of other readers... The chair's authority is limited by LNC policies and directives. Bylaw Article 6.3: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Chair is the chief executive officer of the Party with full authority to direct its business and affairs, including hiring and discharging of National Committee volunteers and paid personnel, subject to express National Committee policies and directives issued in the exercise of the National Committee's plenary control and management of Party affairs, properties and funds." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The LNC has delegated its authority to approve convention contracts to the Convention Oversight Committee, and the chair is not authorized to sign one that did not receive such approval. Policy Manual Section 2.02.7: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Convention Oversight Committee shall make recommendations for convention sites to the LNC, but the LNC shall choose the site. On other matters concerning the Party’s conventions, the committee shall act on behalf of the LNC, including: -conveying requirements to convention planners. -ensuring the convention meets the Party’s needs. -reviewing and approving in a timely manner major elements, such as contracts, the convention budget and the convention program." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Essentially the chair is telling us that he intends to defy the bylaws and LNC policies and sign an unauthorized contract. -Alicia On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:13 AM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
I suppose I should thank the chair for at least telling us that he intends to act outside of his authority...??
I'm not sure whether LNC members are getting the track-changes version or a changes-accepted version, but let me highlight for you the differences between the Nick version and the COC version:
1) COC added a sentence in "21. Cancellation" 2) COC added a sentence in "24. Force Majeure" 3) COC added two phrases in "30. Confirmation" noting that this version is COC-approved and supersedes any previous version 4) COC also struck out the name of Robert Kraus as the person the hotel expected to sign and replaced with "Officer", but that wasn't going to happen anyway. It was just a placeholder.
To be very clear for our readers, the version Nick says he intends to sign is the one he believes he can unilaterally cancel. The COC-authorized version says the cancellation or force-majeure clauses may only be exercised by an affirmative vote of the LNC.
That is the difference.
-Alicia
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:24 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Nick, have you already sent a signed version to the hotel for counter-signature? -Alicia On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:40 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Just stop.
Mr Sarwark, I hope you realize that to anyone honestly observing your actions give proof to my statements regarding your methods.
Everyone else? Step up or stop complaining. We have a motion about to pass that will address this issue.
Other than that it requires 2/3 vote to actually do something. A 2/3 vote that we should have done long since. However it has become readily apparent that enough people on this board are too busy engaging in the same games or do not have the guts to stand up against the abuse for us to reach that 2/3. To our shame, and a deep stain on our entire tenure.
Do we have the will to rein this behavior in or not? I hope we do, but I suspect not. I call again for Mr Sarwark to resign, and fully expecting he will not, I call on US to remove him.
Fully aware that I expect to be disappointed in this call, and knowing the traditional wisdom that says do not make that move if you are not sure of victory, I still do so, because at some point you must stand up against abuse of power and tyranny, just as people all over the country are doing now.
Regardless I suggest the COC contact the hotel and make them aware of the situation, including that any contract received from Mr Sarwark has not been properly approved.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 31, 2020 12:13 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I suppose I should thank the chair for at least telling us that he intends to act outside of his authority...??
I'm not sure whether LNC members are getting the track-changes version or a changes-accepted version, but let me highlight for you the differences between the Nick version and the COC version:
1) COC added a sentence in "21. Cancellation" 2) COC added a sentence in "24. Force Majeure" 3) COC added two phrases in "30. Confirmation" noting that this version is COC-approved and supersedes any previous version 4) COC also struck out the name of Robert Kraus as the person the hotel expected to sign and replaced with "Officer", but that wasn't going to happen anyway. It was just a placeholder.
To be very clear for our readers, the version Nick says he intends to sign is the one he believes he can unilaterally cancel. The COC-authorized version says the cancellation or force-majeure clauses may only be exercised by an affirmative vote of the LNC.
That is the difference.
-Alicia
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:24 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
Tomorrow I intend upon signing the approved version. If our Chair acts outside his authority he needs to be removed. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:55 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Nick, have you already sent a signed version to the hotel for counter-signature?
-Alicia
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:40 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Just stop.
Mr Sarwark, I hope you realize that to anyone honestly observing your actions give proof to my statements regarding your methods.
Everyone else? Step up or stop complaining. We have a motion about to pass that will address this issue.
Other than that it requires 2/3 vote to actually do something. A 2/3 vote that we should have done long since. However it has become readily apparent that enough people on this board are too busy engaging in the same games or do not have the guts to stand up against the abuse for us to reach that 2/3. To our shame, and a deep stain on our entire tenure.
Do we have the will to rein this behavior in or not? I hope we do, but I suspect not. I call again for Mr Sarwark to resign, and fully expecting he will not, I call on US to remove him.
Fully aware that I expect to be disappointed in this call, and knowing the traditional wisdom that says do not make that move if you are not sure of victory, I still do so, because at some point you must stand up against abuse of power and tyranny, just as people all over the country are doing now.
Regardless I suggest the COC contact the hotel and make them aware of the situation, including that any contract received from Mr Sarwark has not been properly approved.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 31, 2020 12:13 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I suppose I should thank the chair for at least telling us that he intends to act outside of his authority...??
I'm not sure whether LNC members are getting the track-changes version or a changes-accepted version, but let me highlight for you the differences between the Nick version and the COC version:
1) COC added a sentence in "21. Cancellation" 2) COC added a sentence in "24. Force Majeure" 3) COC added two phrases in "30. Confirmation" noting that this version is COC-approved and supersedes any previous version 4) COC also struck out the name of Robert Kraus as the person the hotel expected to sign and replaced with "Officer", but that wasn't going to happen anyway. It was just a placeholder.
To be very clear for our readers, the version Nick says he intends to sign is the one he believes he can unilaterally cancel. The COC-authorized version says the cancellation or force-majeure clauses may only be exercised by an affirmative vote of the LNC.
That is the difference.
-Alicia
On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:24 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
You are acting outside your authority. Tomorrow I will sign the one approved by the CoC. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 9:24 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
While I appreciate the suggestions from the Convention Oversight Committee, I'm going to sign the contract negotiated by Mr. Hall, Ms. Ryan, and Mr. Kraus and approved for signature by Mr. Hall.
Yours truly, Nick
-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
participants (10)
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Alicia Mattson -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
dustin.nanna＠lp.org -
erin.adams＠lp.org -
john.phillips＠lp.org -
Nicholas Sarwark -
Richard Longstreth -
Sam Goldstein -
Susan Hogarth -
Whitney Bilyeu