EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors. EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith ============================================= Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment. ============================================= THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. Please notify me of any discrepancies. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I vote yes. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
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Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
So to be clear the attachment was supposed to V3. Please let me know if anyone has any questions. The correct attachment is also linked in the ballot. The sponsors inadvertently sent me the wrong version. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:03 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
The version issue was my fault. Sorry! The only difference is it has "For the persons noted below," at the beginning of the intro sentence. I vote yes. -Alicia On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:07 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
So to be clear the attachment was supposed to V3. Please let me know if anyone has any questions. The correct attachment is also linked in the ballot. The sponsors inadvertently sent me the wrong version.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:03 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
I vote YES on V3 of this motion. On Tue, May 5, 2020, 3:07 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
So to be clear the attachment was supposed to V3. Please let me know if anyone has any questions. The correct attachment is also linked in the ballot. The sponsors inadvertently sent me the wrong version.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 2:03 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it, seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place. There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined. I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy. JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Ms. Adams, Once we're past the convention matter before us, I'm happy to work with you and Mr. O'Donnell to co-sponsor something along those lines. JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 On 2020-05-05 19:02, Erin Adams wrote:
Mr. O'Donnell and I worked on language for a similar proposal that I would be happy to share with the author of this proposal if they would like. The largest differences in the two in my opinion are that our proposal allows for that to be waived with a three-fourths vote of the lnc should this party face a situation where we needed to do so
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On May 5, 2020 5:39 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman <joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org> wrote:
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional
alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a
sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it,
seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined.
I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy.
JBH
------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
> I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from > all of the co-sponsors. > > > EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O'Donnell, Smith > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting > in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * >
I thought the motion included exceptions with 3/4 vote of the entire LNC. Did I miss something? --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-05 18:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it, seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined.
I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy.
JBH
------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
It says "Ineligible" with no ability to waive for Officers/LNC Members/JC within 12 months. JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 On 2020-05-05 19:12, Sam Goldstein wrote:
I thought the motion included exceptions with 3/4 vote of the entire LNC. Did I miss something?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-05 18:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it, seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined.
I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy.
JBH
------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
> I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from > all of the co-sponsors. > > > EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting > in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * >
I vote NO on this motion in its current form. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-05 18:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it, seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined.
I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy.
JBH
------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I change my vote to no for the reasons noted by several above. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Tue, May 5, 2020, 16:15 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote NO on this motion in its current form.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-05 18:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it, seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined.
I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy.
JBH
------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
> I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from > all of the co-sponsors. > > > EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting > in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * >
If there an alternate version to vote upon remember I can start another ballot that now will have a later end date than this one. We have done that multiple times in the past. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:21 PM Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
I change my vote to no for the reasons noted by several above.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Tue, May 5, 2020, 16:15 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote NO on this motion in its current form.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-05 18:39, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it, seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without being defined.
I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the proposal, although this week has been a bit busy.
JBH
------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman@lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose to waive If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have misread this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was to have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure to be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with no authority for the LNC to override it. My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current members seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had thought the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
> I vote yes. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * > > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from >> all of the co-sponsors. >> >> >> EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 >> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> >> Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting >> in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the >> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual >> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. >> >> >> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >> >> * In Liberty,* >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * >> >
Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Engineering Systems and Environment Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- -----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:04 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I vote Nay. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom" On 2020-05-12 09:51 PM, james.lark--- via Lnc-business wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Engineering Systems and Environment Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
-----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:04 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Voting has ENDED for EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 All names are listed alphabetically by surname. Motion: Please see attached. Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith Threshold Required: Simple Majority Voting "aye": Bilyeu, Harlos, Mattson, O’Donnell Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Lark, Longstreth, Nekhaila, Phillips, Van Horn Express Abstention: Merced No Vote Cast: Hewitt/TJ, Redpath, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith With a final vote tally of 4-8-1-4 the motion FAILED You can view the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. Please notify me of any discrepancies. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote Nay.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-12 09:51 PM, james.lark--- via Lnc-business wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Engineering Systems and Environment Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
-----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:04 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Though it doesn't change the result, the Nekhaila vote arrived after the end of the voting period. -Alicia On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 2:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Voting has ENDED for EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
All names are listed alphabetically by surname.
Motion: Please see attached.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
Threshold Required: Simple Majority
Voting "aye": Bilyeu, Harlos, Mattson, O’Donnell
Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Lark, Longstreth, Nekhaila, Phillips, Van Horn
Express Abstention: Merced
No Vote Cast: Hewitt/TJ, Redpath, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith
With a final vote tally of 4-8-1-4 the motion FAILED
You can view the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote Nay.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-12 09:51 PM, james.lark--- via Lnc-business wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Engineering Systems and Environment Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
-----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:04 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I will put that in secretary's notes. Gracias. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 4:17 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
Though it doesn't change the result, the Nekhaila vote arrived after the end of the voting period.
-Alicia
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 2:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Voting has ENDED for EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
All names are listed alphabetically by surname.
Motion: Please see attached.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
Threshold Required: Simple Majority
Voting "aye": Bilyeu, Harlos, Mattson, O’Donnell
Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Lark, Longstreth, Nekhaila, Phillips, Van Horn
Express Abstention: Merced
No Vote Cast: Hewitt/TJ, Redpath, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith
With a final vote tally of 4-8-1-4 the motion FAILED
You can view the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote Nay.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-12 09:51 PM, james.lark--- via Lnc-business wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Engineering Systems and Environment Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
-----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:04 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
*REVISED TOTALS* Voting has ENDED for EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 All names are listed alphabetically by surname. Motion: Please see attached. Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith Threshold Required: Simple Majority Voting "aye": Bilyeu, Harlos, Mattson, O’Donnell Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Lark, Longstreth, Phillips, Van Horn Express Abstention: Merced No Vote Cast: Hewitt/TJ, Nekhaila/Sexton, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith With a final vote tally of 4-7-1-5 the motion FAILED Secretary's Notes: Mr. Nekhaila voted no, but it came in after the ballot deadline. You can view the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. Please notify me of any discrepancies. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 5:02 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
I will put that in secretary's notes. Gracias.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 4:17 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
Though it doesn't change the result, the Nekhaila vote arrived after the end of the voting period.
-Alicia
On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 2:38 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Voting has ENDED for EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
All names are listed alphabetically by surname.
Motion: Please see attached.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
Threshold Required: Simple Majority
Voting "aye": Bilyeu, Harlos, Mattson, O’Donnell
Voting "nay": Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Lark, Longstreth, Nekhaila, Phillips, Van Horn
Express Abstention: Merced
No Vote Cast: Hewitt/TJ, Redpath, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith
With a final vote tally of 4-8-1-4 the motion FAILED
You can view the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote Nay.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-12 09:51 PM, james.lark--- via Lnc-business wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Engineering Systems and Environment Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
-----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 4:04 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
There is a corrected attachment for the motion. I still vote yes. Please see attached.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I vote yes.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
> I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications > from all of the co-sponsors. > > > EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to > pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the > attachment. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to > the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that > the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's > Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect > inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic > arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or > some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. > * >
Yes Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
On May 5, 2020, at 3:29 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * <Policy Manual Amendment - Eligibility to Engage in Financial Transactions v2.pdf>
Yes Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Tue, May 5, 2020, 05:48 Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Yes
Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
On May 5, 2020, at 3:29 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * <Policy Manual Amendment - Eligibility to Engage in Financial Transactions v2.pdf>
Hmm, I'm interested in the off-list creation of this motion. What's the story behind this sudden motion? Who wrote this? --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) On 2020-05-05 03:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Why was this not talked about on the LNC email list? Before suddenly being brought to a vote? What I want to know is who wrote it and why. Does it have anything do with rumors being circulated out on social media? I'd like some transparency. If not, can someone explain? --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) On 2020-05-05 10:57, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
Hmm, I'm interested in the off-list creation of this motion. What's the story behind this sudden motion?
Who wrote this?
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-05-05 03:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I did not write it. I agree with its contents however. If the author wishes to disclose identity they may. I will only speak for myself. Members are free to caucus and ask the Secretary to start a ballot if there are enough sponsors. Whether or not it’s a good idea is up to opinion but it is a member right and while not common, also not unheard of. If I am given a properly sponsored ballot it is my job to start a ballot. On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn@lp.org> wrote:
Why was this not talked about on the LNC email list? Before suddenly being brought to a vote?
What I want to know is who wrote it and why. Does it have anything do with rumors being circulated out on social media? I'd like some transparency.
If not, can someone explain?
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-05-05 10:57, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
Hmm, I'm interested in the off-list creation of this motion. What's the story behind this sudden motion?
Who wrote this?
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-05-05 03:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
-- * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I vote NO. A motion that hides the author and the author's intent, isn't one I'll vote for. --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) On 2020-05-05 11:07, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
I did not write it. I agree with its contents however.
If the author wishes to disclose identity they may. I will only speak for myself.
Members are free to caucus and ask the Secretary to start a ballot if there are enough sponsors. Whether or not it's a good idea is up to opinion but it is a member right and while not common, also not unheard of.
If I am given a properly sponsored ballot it is my job to start a ballot.
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn@lp.org> wrote:
Why was this not talked about on the LNC email list? Before suddenly being brought to a vote?
What I want to know is who wrote it and why. Does it have anything do with rumors being circulated out on social media? I'd like some transparency.
If not, can someone explain?
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-05-05 10:57, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
Hmm, I'm interested in the off-list creation of this motion. What's the story behind this sudden motion?
Who wrote this?
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-05-05 03:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O'Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
I second EVH request for more info, that flew off my radar on my first read but I’ll change my vote to abstain till I get more detail on questions I’ll put forward in separate email to not cause debate in the voting thread. Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
On May 5, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Hmm, I'm interested in the off-list creation of this motion. What's the story behind this sudden motion?
Who wrote this?
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-05-05 03:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors. EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01 We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith ============================================= Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment. ============================================= THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. Please notify me of any discrepancies. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I vote no. With the base for decisions being "3/4 vote of entire LNC", an abstention has the same effect as a negative. But members should not vote on a question in which they have a direct personal or pecuniary interest not common to other LNC members. The member with a financial transaction is in the position of either effectively voting nay, or voting aye when having a direct personal interest. Reference RONR pages 403 and 407. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-05-05 00:29, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I received a request for this ballot off-list with verifications from all of the co-sponsors.
EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O’Donnell, Smith
=============================================
Motion: Please see attached. The formatting is not conducive to pasting in email. Let me know if you have any issues with the attachment.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
participants (16)
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Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) -
Alicia Mattson -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
dustin.nanna＠lp.org -
Elizabeth Van Horn -
Erin Adams -
james.lark＠lp.org -
Joe Bishop-Henchman -
john.phillips＠lp.org -
justin.odonnell＠lp.org -
Richard Longstreth -
Sam Goldstein -
Steven Nekhaila -
Tim Hagan -
Whitney Bilyeu