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Fwd: Re: [Lnc-votes] ?? Email Clogged due to thread - Fwd: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: Weld Developments
by Justin O'Donnell 07 Feb '19

07 Feb '19

Per his request, I'm forwarding Starchild's email to the LNC list to be reflected on the public list. Also, I think it is worth noting that he raises a valid concern regarding members abilities to contact the entire LNC on matters of importance and have those emails recorded and reflected publicly as all our other business is. I do know we have a new contact form on the website for members to contact the entire LNC at once, but it isn't conducive to responses in a discussion thread, nor is it reflected on the public thread. --- Yours in Liberty, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative Chair- LPNH Platform Committee www.justinodonnell.me Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] ?? Email Clogged due to thread - Fwd: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: Weld Developments Date: 2019-02-06 22:17 From: Starchild <sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net> To: Justin O'Donnell <justin.odonnell(a)lp.org> Cc: Starchild <sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net> Hi Justin, My apologies – I thought I had copied the entire LNC in my original email, but on reviewing that message I see that your address somehow wasn't included. Not sure how that occurred, but I assure you it was wholly unintentional. I will note however that this sort of error comes with the territory when LP members are required to list LNC members' email addresses individually when seeking to communicate with the LNC, rather than being able to send emails to a single list address to reach the entire national committee, as LNC members themselves are able to do. I would appreciate you forwarding this reply to the LNC list, to dispel any impressions that may have been created among your LNC colleagues or other list readers by what you wrote, that I deliberately failed to include you in my correspondence. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) P.S. – Here is my other follow-up message, which I sent to the same list of LNC members, but don't see in the thread below and therefore you may also not have seen (please note btw that the original contains boldface and italics, which may or may not come through due to shortcomings in how the LP's server is configurated): On Feb 5, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net [GrassrootsLibertarians] wrote: > By far the most important lesson as far as I am concerned is for us > to _be smarter "next time"_! > > Too many LP members were apparently prepared to give Weld our > presidential nomination, when based on his record he should have never > even been the vice presidential candidate without some serious and > credible rethinking of past views on his part. If you were one of his > supporters, PLEASE take this episode to heart, and endeavor not to > make a similar mistake again! > > William Weld almost certainly won't be the last "squishy" libertarian > to come our way, so when they do, let's be prepared to receive them > properly. When high-level politicians come to us from the > establishment parties, or big name/big money people show up from > wherever... > > • DON'T fall over ourselves crowing about it like starstruck teenage > fans > • DON'T treat them like presumptive party leaders by giving them all > kinds of star billing, speaking gigs, etc. > • DON'T rush to nominate or support them to run for office as a > Libertarian > > This isn't to say we should be _unfriendly_ to high-profile converts, > just make it clear to them that they shouldn't expect any special > treatment, and that they should spend some time getting familiar with > the Libertarian Party and libertarianism before trying to participate > in a leadership role. Let them hang around for a while first and earn > our trust by paying their dues as ordinary Libertarian > members/activists, establish their _libertarian_ credentials (which > are much more important in selecting candidates and party officers > than _establishment_ credentials!), and demonstrate that they really > believe in freedom and aren't just opportunists seeking to use the LP > as a means to further their own ambitions. > > • DO welcome them to the party > • DO make it clear to them that we expect leaders in our party to be > strongly libertarian > • DO sound them out on their views and ask them tough questions > • DO work to raise their awareness about the Non-Aggression > Principle and what we stand for > > If we do these things consistently, I believe we'll run a much lower > risk of being manipulated or embarrassed, and improve our chances of > keeping the Libertarian Party sustainably libertarian. > > Love & Liberty, > > ((( starchild ))) On Feb 6, 2019, at 3:18 PM, lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org wrote: > This is the first I'm seeing of any of this thread, it appears as if > Starchild has neglected to include me in his replies to the LNC, and I > have not received any of his responses, or the threads following them. > Furthermore, this thread, and any others started in the same manner I > may have missed, are not reflected in our pipermail list or the > LNCVotes group. Responses to Party members such as Starchild who > respond are fully worthy, however, I would encourage everyone to keep > to the threads that are officially reflected on the LNC-Business list > for LNC Discussions, as full transparency of our discussions is the > whole purpose of having a public reflector list... > > --- > Yours in Liberty, > > Justin O'Donnell > LNC Region 8 Representative > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee > www.justinodonnell.me [1] > > Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! > > On 2019-02-06 18:01, Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business wrote: > >> FYI... I got a strange Mailer Daemon type message about the list >> being > >> clogged with too many recipients or something, and needing moderator > >> approval. I see that Mr. Phillips has responded to my email, but >> Mr. > >> O'Donnell tells me it is not reaching him. We should troubleshoot > >> this and make sure the LNC is able to read and respond to the LNC > >> emails, and that the growing list of names on the reply-all isn't > >> clogging up the channel. > >> -Jeff Lyons > >> Get Outlook for Android > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: "Jeff Lyons" <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org> > >> Date: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:44 PM -0500 > >> Subject: Fwd: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: > >> [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld > >> Developments > >> To: "Jeff.lyons 1987" <jeff.lyons.1987(a)gmail.com> > >> Get Outlook for Android > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: "Jeff Lyons" <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org> > >> Date: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:36 PM -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: > >> [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld > >> Developments > >> To: "Joe Bishop-Henchman" <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org>, "Caryn Ann > >> Harlos" <caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org> > >> Cc: "Alex Merced" <alex.merced(a)lp.org>, "Alicia Mattson" > >> <agmattson(a)gmail.com>, "Bill Redpath" <wredpath(a)his.com>, "Caryn Ann > >> Harlos" <secretary(a)lp.org>, "Craig Bowden" <craig.bowden(a)lp.org>, > >> "Dustin Nanna" <dustin.nanna(a)lp.org>, "Elizabeth Van Horn" > >> <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org>, "Erin Adams" <erin.adams(a)lp.org>, > >> <grassrootslibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com>, "Jeff Hewitt" > >> <jeffrey.hewitt(a)lp.org>, "Jim Lark" <jwlark(a)lp.org>, "John Phillips" > >> <john.phillips(a)lp.org>, "Joshua D. Smith" <joshua.smith(a)lp.org>, > >> "Kenneth Brent Olsen" <kenneth.olsen(a)lp.org>, > >> <lncdiscusspublic(a)yahoogroups.com>, "Libertarian National Committee > >> list" <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>, "Nick Sarwark" <chair(a)lp.org>, > >> "Phillip Anderson" <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org>, "Richard Longstreth" > >> <richard.longstreth(a)lp.org>, "Roderick Long" <berserkrl(a)yahoo.com>, > >> "Sam Goldstein" <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org>, "Steven Nekhaila" > >> <steven.nekhaila(a)lp.org>, "Susan Hogarth" <susan.hogarth(a)lp.org>, >> "Tim > >> Hagan" <tim.hagan(a)lp.org>, "Victoria Paige Lee" > >> <victoria.paige.lee(a)lp.org>, "Whitney Bilyeu" >> <whitney.bilyeu(a)lp.org>, > >> <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com>, <lpusmisc(a)yahoogroups.com> > >> All, > >> I'm glad we are having this conversation and reflecting on our > >> values, our candidates, and how we choose to do business. However, >> I > >> believe our response should not be premature. I want to remind > >> everyone there isn't a requirement to register to vote as "L" to be >> a > >> member of this Organization, the person in question is technically >> not > >> yet running for any political office regardless of poltical > >> affiliation, the deadlines for those registrations and filings are > >> still far in the future yet, and they can switch party registration > >> online instantly at any moment... > >> In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, voters are allowed to >> vote > >> in the Primary election of the party they are registered with, or if > >> unenrolled they may choose which party Primary to vote in. The LP > >> Presidential Primary is non-binding, we have not had an LP Primary > >> Contest at any level of political office that had any competition or > >> consequence that I can think of, nor that comes anywhere near the > >> level of consequence of R and D Primaries, and registering as an L > >> basically means you can't vote in primaries for the R Party or the > >> D-Party where the results will have a much more conclusive impact. >> We > >> struggle in MA to drive voter registration because being No-Party is > >> always better than being in any party, least of all ours. I can > >> sympathize with anyone who would rather vote in the R or D Primaries > >> to effect their nominees (especially a momentous Never Trump > >> insurgency) when our L Primary in Massachusetts has little or no > >> effect- something we are working to address from many angles. > >> Regardless... > >> ...Why would a lifetime member of the LP and a presumable > >> frontrunner for our presidential nomination switch their party > >> registration in-person, PUBLICLY, and ensure the press covered it, > >> just days after rumors were first spread (and immediately debunked >> by > >> journalists who cared to fact-check) that he was prepared to >> announce > >> for President as a Republican any day now? > >> In my opinion, this is a brilliant use of earned media. I am > >> predicting Governor Weld will stay LP and is just masterfully >> trolling > >> the local Boston right-wing media (it does exist, and yes, they are > >> that desperate for news) that was attempting to discredit him in the > >> eyes of Libertarians and Republicans both. The media runs cover for > >> their politicians, that's no secret. A Primary challenge and a >> strong > >> LP candidate are both bad news for the Trump Republicans. > >> The media promoting the angle of an undecided or flip-flopping > >> Weld is, in my view, an attempt to run interference. They mention a > >> Primary challenge weakens the incumbent, blaming Pat Buchanan for > >> George HW Bush's loss to Bill Clinton, while ignoring the >> contribution > >> of the third candidate to that loss. This is clearly giving their > >> readers the impression- if you like Trump, the Primary Challenger is > >> bad! But the Third Party is no threat at all. All the political > >> insiders they interviewed for this story were former Trump Campaign > >> Staff. Only the Boston Globe reached out to Libertarians- Chairman > >> Sarwark, Mr. Fishman, and myself, for comment. > >> With the Politics and Eggs event next week, which was obviously > >> supposed to have a big announcement of some kind, it should be a >> huge > >> red flag that the right wing media wasn't telling anyone to tune in >> to > >> that event for an announcement of some kind, rather trying to "spoil > >> the surprise" by asserting they have already confirmed what's going >> to > >> happen. I believe they are trying to fatigue the readers of Weld > >> before he has a chance to speak for himself. However, I also believe > >> Weld may be taking advantage of this in an expert way. > >> The Rumors, started by Janet Wu, with no source listed: > >> > https://www.wcvb.com/article/former-mass-gov-william-weld-to-announce-possi… > >> Boston Herald- 1/23: > >> > https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/23/ex-mass-gov-weld-weighs-presidentia… > >> Boston Globe- 1/31: > >> > https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/01/31/weld-eyes-presidential-campaig… > >> "He has flatly denied a WCVB-TV report that he has taken a >> leave > >> from his law firm, Mintz Levin, and that an announcement about a > >> presidential campaign could be imminent. “No, not correct, either > >> item,” he wrote in an e-mail to the Globe Wednesday night." > >> I should note that I jokingly included in my Conflicts of > >> Interest- "thinks Bill Weld is a good Libertarian". I wrote that > >> because I am from Massachusetts, Bill Weld was my Governor (though I > >> was a pre-teen when he left office), I have been able to attend lots > >> of events and speeches he has given over the past 2 years, and I've > >> gotten to know him through his support of our Fishman for Auditor > >> campaign in Massachusetts, one that would probably have been unheard > >> of by most if not for his endorsement which carried a lot of weight > >> for us. > >> The Governor has been a friend to the Libertarian Party of > >> Massachusetts and it's candidates, he has hosted events for us, he >> has > >> travelled to numerous other LP conventions and events. I would be > >> baffled to find out this was all in vain. If I am wrong on this, I > >> will personally feel as betrayed as any of you, I will retract my > >> conflict of interest statement with regret, and I will join in > >> crafting our response and evolving our party to deal with these > >> situations in the future. I don't think those feelings of betrayal > >> and hopes dashed should be part of our response. > >> Most importantly, we should confirm with facts before we take any > >> action, and we should be prepared to act swiftly for a range of > >> contingencies when the time comes. > >> I think it is also an important lesson that we must learn, and > >> one that is sorely lacking in this and other conversations we have, >> is > >> that we are a real political party- not a think tank or a leader of > >> Libertarian ideology, and we must focus on becoming an organization > >> that expertly elects Libertarians to public office at all levels. > >> This rumor has caused the entire Libertarian community to descend >> into > >> chaos, some viewing it as good and good riddance, some as a bad sign > >> that we, the LNC as an organization, cannot grapple with the >> two-party > >> system because when we attract candidates who can win, we fail to > >> provide the infrastructure and support that is required to mount a > >> successful campaign. > >> We must instill confidence in candidates, donors, and voters, > >> that they can trust us with the monumental task of electing > >> Libertarians even when we are the underdog at every level of > >> competition. > >> There are Libertarians running with R's next to their names for > >> the sole reason that the R's have the machine that makes campaigning > >> easy and winning possible. We should not view this as a "betrayal", > >> but a failure on our part to court, to support, and to be effective >> in > >> growing and advancing our stated mission and agenda. > >> Let's focus on ourselves and what we can do to achieve Liberty in >> our Lifetime. > >> Thank you for all you folks do for the Liberty of Others and I look > >> forward to achieving it together. > >> Very Respectfully, > >> Jeff Lyons > >> LNC Region 8- Alternate > >> LPMass - Chairman > >> Fishman for MA Auditor (2018)- Campaign Manager > >> Get Outlook for Android > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 2:29 PM -0500, "Caryn Ann Harlos" > >> <caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org> wrote: > >> I do not think framing the concerns below as a purity purge is >> nuanced > >> or fair. Neither is about kindness (Starchild is the kindest person >> I > >> know). > >> I’m finding that the word “purity” is an LP shibboleth to >> avoid hard > >> discussion when what we are really talking about is violence. > >> However, the “celebration” mentioned below had to do with >> political > >> opportunism not purity. > >> Not everything can be papered over. > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:28 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman > >> <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org> wrote: > >> Thank you for reaching out. I want to see our party electing and > >> re-electing Libertarians, and the only way I see that happening is >> with > >> a party that is much larger with more members. Your stated goal of > >> excluding, or celebrating the exclusion, of those who are not pure > >> libertarians on every issue runs counter to that objective of mine. >> My > >> day job would be extraordinarily easier with even one Libertarian at >> the > >> negotiating table in every state legislature committee, and bullying > >> anyone who isn't apex 100/100 just guarantees we don't grow. > >> I do recognize there is a difference between joining and being our > >> standard-bearer, between keeping pledges and breaking them, and that > >> people who join shouldn't then demand that we become >> non-libertarian. > >> But it's undeniable that many Libertarians are brutish and nasty to >> one > >> another, and a poisonous and unwelcoming environment makes the jobs >> of > >> our candidate recruiters, fundraisers, and membership staff much >> harder. > >> I try to be respectful to everyone, including those with whom I > >> disagree, and you won't hear me calling for any purges of the >> impure. > >> JBH > >> ------------ > >> Joe Bishop-Henchman > >> LNC Member (At-Large) > >> joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org > >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 > >> On 2019-02-05 02:59, Roderick Long wrote: > I agree with Starchild in not being disappointed. Nonlibertarian or >> semi-libertarian opportunists leaving the party for the same reasons >> of political strategy that led them to join in the first place is >> neither unexpected nor regrettable. Better to have them grow the >> libertarian-ish wing of a mainstream party than an authoritarian-ish >> wing of a libertarian party. >> R. >> ------------------------- >> FROM: "Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net [lpradicals]" >> <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com> >> TO: LNCDiscussPublic(a)yahoogroups.com >> CC: GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com; Alex Merced >> <alex.merced(a)lp.org>; Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com>; Bill >> Redpath <wredpath(a)his.com>; Caryn Ann Harlos <secretary(a)lp.org>; >> Craig >> Bowden <craig.bowden(a)lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna(a)lp.org>; >> Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org>; Erin Adams >> <erin.adams(a)lp.org>; Jeff Hewitt <Jeffrey.Hewitt(a)lp.org>; Jeff Lyons >> <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org>; Jim Lark <jwlark(a)lp.org>; Joe Bishop-Henchman >> <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org>; John Phillips <john.phillips(a)lp.org>; >> Joshua D. Smith <joshua.smith(a)lp.org>; Kenneth Brent Olsen >> <kenneth.olsen(a)lp.org>; LP Radical Caucus >> <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com>; Libertarian National Committee list >> <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>; Nick Sarwark <chair(a)lp.org>; Phillip >> Anderson <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org>; Richard Longstreth >> <richard.longstreth(a)lp.org>; Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org>; >> Steven Nekhaila <Steven.Nekhaila(a)lp.org>; Susan Hogarth >> <susan.hogarth(a)lp.org>; Tim Hagan <tim.hagan(a)lp.org>; Victoria Paige >> Lee <victoria.paige.lee(a)lp.org>; Whitney Bilyeu >> <whitney.bilyeu(a)lp.org>; lpusmisc(a)yahoogroups.com > > SENT: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 12:19 AM >> SUBJECT: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: >> [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld >> Developments >> I hear you Caryn Ann. Maybe nix the "expression of >> disappointment"? >> Or express our disappointment that he doesn't have a stronger >> commitment to libertarianism? But we dodged a bullet here, even if >> saving the LP wasn't his motive. Going after him too harshly would >> convey the impression that we still haven't recognized and embraced >> this as a _POSITIVE_ development, not a negative one. It's also >> possible, as I think someone mentioned in this thread, that Weld may >> yet do some good for ballot access, etc., within the GOP, if we keep >> a >> channel of communications open. >> Love & Liberty, >> ((( starchild ))) > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos(a)gmail.com >> [LNCDiscussPublic] wrote: > But for his two-faced lie to our delegates I’d agree. > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:03 PM Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net > [GrassrootsLibertarians] <GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com> > wrote: > I agree with Tim here. I'm not a Bill Weld fan, but I see no need > to slam the door on his butt on the way out. > High-profile candidates like Weld who aren't solidly libertarian > actually _DO US A FAVOR_ by leaving the Libertarian Party. Far > better that he go and compete in the Republican primary, where he > will be able to argue _FOR_ freedom in contrast with other > candidates who are less libertarian than he is, than that we run the > risk of him supplanting candidates with better views to become the > LP nominee and betray our principles to the lasting detriment of the > party and the larger libertarian movement and cause of freedom for > which we stand. > No one familiar with Weld's record should be particularly surprised > by this opportunism. Let's move on, wish him well in promoting > freedom as a Republican to whatever limited extent that party will > embrace it, and let any egg on our faces serve as a valuable lesson > to Libertarians not to succumb to the siren songs of big names, big > money, establishment credentials, etc.., next time such a candidate > comes along. > Love & Liberty, > ((( starchild ))) > Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San Francisco* > (415) 625-FREE > starchild(a)lp.org > @StarchildSF > *Views expressed here are my own and not necessarily those of the > LPSF > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:07 PM, lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org wrote: > Here is one source: >> > https://commonwealthmagazine.org/politics/weld-rejoins-the-republican-ranks/ > While party members may feel betrayed, I don't see an advantage in > harshly condemning him. An expression of disappointment and wishing > him well in future endeavors would be appropriate. > --- > Tim Hagan > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee > On 2019-02-04 18:47, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: > I'd like to see the media source and verification of the source > before > acting. If this is true, I support having a statement ready if he > announced > in a few days. > Richard Longstreth > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY) > Libertarian National Committee > richard.longstreth(a)lp.org > 931.538..9300 > Sent from my Mobile Device > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 19:36 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org wrote: > How many voters do we win over by condemning people for not being > registered Libertarians? Don't forget that Gary Johnson was our > nominee > after he ran in the GOP primary earlier in the same year. > -Alicia > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:20 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > I would support such a resolution. Our purpose statement > prioritizes us > being a unique political identity. > Also this very arguably disqualifies him from our nomination if > it were > to > take place today. > This is, in my eyes, a betrayal. > I’m hoping there is some computer glitch. > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business > < > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > LNC Colleagues, > Boston media reported today that a town clerk had leaked > information > that Bill Weld has changed his voter registration from > Libertarian to > Republican. This is in advance of the Governor's scheduled > appearance > at > Politics and Eggs at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics > on 02/15. > This Breakfast at NHIOP has long been considered a must-attend > event > for > presidential candidates, and many are encouraged to announce > their runs > at this event. Should Governor Weld intend to do so, I believe > it would > be prudent that our leadership and staff be well prepared for > the > inevitable media inquiries regarding the switch. I also > believe a > statement from the Chair, or the LNC as a whole would be > beneficial > given the tumultuous nature of our membership. > At the very least, a Press release seems appropriate, > although, in this > case, a resolution from the LNC condemning the actions would > have my > full support as well. > -- > Yours in Liberty, > Justin O'Donnell > LNC Region 8 Representative > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee > www.justinodonnell.me [1] [1] > Renew your membership today at > https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! > -- > * In Liberty,* > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary > *- > Caryn.Ann. > Harlos@LP..org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [2] [2] >> > ========================================================================= > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * > Re-Legalize > All > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun > Laws * > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The > Fed * End > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the > Income > Tax > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market > Emergency > Services > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private > Sector * > Eliminate Regulation * > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www..LP.org [3] < > http://www.lp.org/ > * >> > ========================================================================= > _______________________________________________ > Lnc-votes mailing list > Lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-votes > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lncvotes" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to lncvotes+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google. 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SOTU response
by Joe Bishop-Henchman 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

I wanted to send a public message thanking Jeff Hewitt for taking the time to record an excellent State of the Union response. Kudos to the team that made it happen! JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

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Re: [Lnc-business] [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] Weld Developments
by Joe Bishop-Henchman 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

Thank you for reaching out. I want to see our party electing and re-electing Libertarians, and the only way I see that happening is with a party that is much larger with more members. Your stated goal of excluding, or celebrating the exclusion, of those who are not pure libertarians on every issue runs counter to that objective of mine. My day job would be extraordinarily easier with even one Libertarian at the negotiating table in every state legislature committee, and bullying anyone who isn't apex 100/100 just guarantees we don't grow. I do recognize there is a difference between joining and being our standard-bearer, between keeping pledges and breaking them, and that people who join shouldn't then demand that we become non-libertarian. But it's undeniable that many Libertarians are brutish and nasty to one another, and a poisonous and unwelcoming environment makes the jobs of our candidate recruiters, fundraisers, and membership staff much harder. I try to be respectful to everyone, including those with whom I disagree, and you won't hear me calling for any purges of the impure. JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 On 2019-02-05 02:59, Roderick Long wrote: > I agree with Starchild in not being disappointed. Nonlibertarian or > semi-libertarian opportunists leaving the party for the same reasons > of political strategy that led them to join in the first place is > neither unexpected nor regrettable. Better to have them grow the > libertarian-ish wing of a mainstream party than an authoritarian-ish > wing of a libertarian party. > > R. > > ------------------------- > FROM: "Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net [lpradicals]" > <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com> > TO: LNCDiscussPublic(a)yahoogroups.com > CC: GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com; Alex Merced > <alex.merced(a)lp.org>; Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com>; Bill > Redpath <wredpath(a)his.com>; Caryn Ann Harlos <secretary(a)lp.org>; Craig > Bowden <craig.bowden(a)lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna(a)lp.org>; > Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org>; Erin Adams > <erin.adams(a)lp.org>; Jeff Hewitt <Jeffrey.Hewitt(a)lp.org>; Jeff Lyons > <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org>; Jim Lark <jwlark(a)lp.org>; Joe Bishop-Henchman > <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org>; John Phillips <john.phillips(a)lp.org>; > Joshua D. Smith <joshua.smith(a)lp.org>; Kenneth Brent Olsen > <kenneth.olsen(a)lp.org>; LP Radical Caucus > <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com>; Libertarian National Committee list > <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>; Nick Sarwark <chair(a)lp.org>; Phillip > Anderson <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org>; Richard Longstreth > <richard.longstreth(a)lp.org>; Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org>; > Steven Nekhaila <Steven.Nekhaila(a)lp.org>; Susan Hogarth > <susan.hogarth(a)lp.org>; Tim Hagan <tim.hagan(a)lp.org>; Victoria Paige > Lee <victoria.paige.lee(a)lp.org>; Whitney Bilyeu > <whitney.bilyeu(a)lp.org>; lpusmisc(a)yahoogroups.com > SENT: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 12:19 AM > SUBJECT: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: > [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld > Developments > > I hear you Caryn Ann. Maybe nix the "expression of disappointment"? > Or express our disappointment that he doesn't have a stronger > commitment to libertarianism? But we dodged a bullet here, even if > saving the LP wasn't his motive. Going after him too harshly would > convey the impression that we still haven't recognized and embraced > this as a _POSITIVE_ development, not a negative one. It's also > possible, as I think someone mentioned in this thread, that Weld may > yet do some good for ballot access, etc., within the GOP, if we keep a > channel of communications open. > > Love & Liberty, > > ((( starchild ))) > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos(a)gmail.com > [LNCDiscussPublic] wrote: > >> But for his two-faced lie to our delegates I’d agree. > >> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:03 PM Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net >> [GrassrootsLibertarians] <GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com> >> wrote: >> >> I agree with Tim here. I'm not a Bill Weld fan, but I see no need >> to slam the door on his butt on the way out. >> >> High-profile candidates like Weld who aren't solidly libertarian >> actually _DO US A FAVOR_ by leaving the Libertarian Party. Far >> better that he go and compete in the Republican primary, where he >> will be able to argue _FOR_ freedom in contrast with other >> candidates who are less libertarian than he is, than that we run the >> risk of him supplanting candidates with better views to become the >> LP nominee and betray our principles to the lasting detriment of the >> party and the larger libertarian movement and cause of freedom for >> which we stand. >> >> No one familiar with Weld's record should be particularly surprised >> by this opportunism. Let's move on, wish him well in promoting >> freedom as a Republican to whatever limited extent that party will >> embrace it, and let any egg on our faces serve as a valuable lesson >> to Libertarians not to succumb to the siren songs of big names, big >> money, establishment credentials, etc.., next time such a candidate >> comes along. >> >> Love & Liberty, >> >> ((( starchild ))) >> Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San Francisco* >> (415) 625-FREE >> starchild(a)lp.org >> @StarchildSF >> >> *Views expressed here are my own and not necessarily those of the >> LPSF >> >> On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:07 PM, lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org wrote: >> >> Here is one source: >> > https://commonwealthmagazine.org/politics/weld-rejoins-the-republican-ranks/ >> >> While party members may feel betrayed, I don't see an advantage in >> harshly condemning him. An expression of disappointment and wishing >> him well in future endeavors would be appropriate. >> >> --- >> Tim Hagan >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee >> >> On 2019-02-04 18:47, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >> I'd like to see the media source and verification of the source >> before >> acting. If this is true, I support having a statement ready if he >> announced >> in a few days. >> Richard Longstreth >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY) >> Libertarian National Committee >> richard.longstreth(a)lp.org >> 931.538..9300 > >>> Sent from my Mobile Device >> >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 19:36 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < >> >>> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org wrote: >> How many voters do we win over by condemning people for not being > >>> registered Libertarians? Don't forget that Gary Johnson was our >>> nominee > >>> after he ran in the GOP primary earlier in the same year. > >>> -Alicia > >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:20 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > >>> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>>> I would support such a resolution. Our purpose statement >>> prioritizes us > >>>> being a unique political identity. > >>>> > >>>> Also this very arguably disqualifies him from our nomination if >>> it were > >>> to > >>>> take place today. > >>>> > >>>> This is, in my eyes, a betrayal. > >>>> > >>>> I’m hoping there is some computer glitch. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business >>> < > >>>> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> LNC Colleagues, > >>>>> > >>>>> Boston media reported today that a town clerk had leaked >>> information > >>>>> that Bill Weld has changed his voter registration from >>> Libertarian to > >>>>> Republican. This is in advance of the Governor's scheduled >>> appearance > >>> at > >>>>> Politics and Eggs at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics >>> on 02/15. > >>>>> This Breakfast at NHIOP has long been considered a must-attend >>> event > >>> for > >>>>> presidential candidates, and many are encouraged to announce >>> their runs > >>>>> at this event. Should Governor Weld intend to do so, I believe >>> it would > >>>>> be prudent that our leadership and staff be well prepared for >>> the > >>>>> inevitable media inquiries regarding the switch. I also >>> believe a > >>>>> statement from the Chair, or the LNC as a whole would be >>> beneficial > >>>>> given the tumultuous nature of our membership. > >>>>> > >>>>> At the very least, a Press release seems appropriate, >>> although, in this > >>>>> case, a resolution from the LNC condemning the actions would >>> have my > >>>>> full support as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Yours in Liberty, > >>>>> > >>>>> Justin O'Donnell > >>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative > >>>>> Chair- LPNH Platform Committee > >>>>> www.justinodonnell.me [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> Renew your membership today at >>> https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> * In Liberty,* > >>>> > >>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary >>> *- > >>>> Caryn.Ann. > >>>> Harlos@LP..org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. > >>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org > >>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > >>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [2] > >>>> > >>>> >>> >> > ========================================================================= > >>>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * >>> Re-Legalize > >>> All > >>>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun >>> Laws * > >>>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The >>> Fed * End > >>>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the >>> Income > >>> Tax > >>>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market >>> Emergency > >>> Services > >>>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private >>> Sector * > >>>> Eliminate Regulation * > >>>> > >>>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www..LP.org [3] < > >>> http://www.lp.org/ > >>>>> * > >>>> >>> >> > ========================================================================= > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Lnc-votes mailing list >> Lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org >> http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-votes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "lncvotes" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to lncvotes+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google. 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by Jeff Lyons 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

FYI... I got a strange Mailer Daemon type message about the list being clogged with too many recipients or something, and needing moderator approval. I see that Mr. Phillips has responded to my email, but Mr. O'Donnell tells me it is not reaching him. We should troubleshoot this and make sure the LNC is able to read and respond to the LNC emails, and that the growing list of names on the reply-all isn't clogging up the channel. -Jeff Lyons Get Outlook for Android ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jeff Lyons" <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org> Date: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:44 PM -0500 Subject: Fwd: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld Developments To: "Jeff.lyons 1987" <jeff.lyons.1987(a)gmail.com> Get Outlook for Android ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Jeff Lyons" <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org> Date: Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:36 PM -0500 Subject: Re: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld Developments To: "Joe Bishop-Henchman" <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org>, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org> Cc: "Alex Merced" <alex.merced(a)lp.org>, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson(a)gmail.com>, "Bill Redpath" <wredpath(a)his.com>, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <secretary(a)lp.org>, "Craig Bowden" <craig.bowden(a)lp.org>, "Dustin Nanna" <dustin.nanna(a)lp.org>, "Elizabeth Van Horn" <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org>, "Erin Adams" <erin.adams(a)lp.org>, <grassrootslibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com>, "Jeff Hewitt" <jeffrey.hewitt(a)lp.org>, "Jim Lark" <jwlark(a)lp.org>, "John Phillips" <john.phillips(a)lp.org>, "Joshua D. Smith" <joshua.smith(a)lp.org>, "Kenneth Brent Olsen" <kenneth.olsen(a)lp.org>, <lncdiscusspublic(a)yahoogroups.com>, "Libertarian National Committee list" <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>, "Nick Sarwark" <chair(a)lp.org>, "Phillip Anderson" <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org>, "Richard Longstreth" <richard.longstreth(a)lp.org>, "Roderick Long" <berserkrl(a)yahoo.com>, "Sam Goldstein" <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org>, "Steven Nekhaila" <steven.nekhaila(a)lp.org>, "Susan Hogarth" <susan.hogarth(a)lp.org>, "Tim Hagan" <tim.hagan(a)lp.org>, "Victoria Paige Lee" <victoria.paige.lee(a)lp.org>, "Whitney Bilyeu" <whitney.bilyeu(a)lp.org>, <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com>, <lpusmisc(a)yahoogroups.com> All, I'm glad we are having this conversation and reflecting on our values, our candidates, and how we choose to do business. However, I believe our response should not be premature. I want to remind everyone there isn't a requirement to register to vote as "L" to be a member of this Organization, the person in question is technically not yet running for any political office regardless of poltical affiliation, the deadlines for those registrations and filings are still far in the future yet, and they can switch party registration online instantly at any moment... In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, voters are allowed to vote in the Primary election of the party they are registered with, or if unenrolled they may choose which party Primary to vote in. The LP Presidential Primary is non-binding, we have not had an LP Primary Contest at any level of political office that had any competition or consequence that I can think of, nor that comes anywhere near the level of consequence of R and D Primaries, and registering as an L basically means you can't vote in primaries for the R Party or the D-Party where the results will have a much more conclusive impact. We struggle in MA to drive voter registration because being No-Party is always better than being in any party, least of all ours. I can sympathize with anyone who would rather vote in the R or D Primaries to effect their nominees (especially a momentous Never Trump insurgency) when our L Primary in Massachusetts has little or no effect- something we are working to address from many angles. Regardless... ...Why would a lifetime member of the LP and a presumable frontrunner for our presidential nomination switch their party registration in-person, PUBLICLY, and ensure the press covered it, just days after rumors were first spread (and immediately debunked by journalists who cared to fact-check) that he was prepared to announce for President as a Republican any day now? In my opinion, this is a brilliant use of earned media. I am predicting Governor Weld will stay LP and is just masterfully trolling the local Boston right-wing media (it does exist, and yes, they are that desperate for news) that was attempting to discredit him in the eyes of Libertarians and Republicans both. The media runs cover for their politicians, that's no secret. A Primary challenge and a strong LP candidate are both bad news for the Trump Republicans. The media promoting the angle of an undecided or flip-flopping Weld is, in my view, an attempt to run interference. They mention a Primary challenge weakens the incumbent, blaming Pat Buchanan for George HW Bush's loss to Bill Clinton, while ignoring the contribution of the third candidate to that loss. This is clearly giving their readers the impression- if you like Trump, the Primary Challenger is bad! But the Third Party is no threat at all. All the political insiders they interviewed for this story were former Trump Campaign Staff. Only the Boston Globe reached out to Libertarians- Chairman Sarwark, Mr. Fishman, and myself, for comment. With the Politics and Eggs event next week, which was obviously supposed to have a big announcement of some kind, it should be a huge red flag that the right wing media wasn't telling anyone to tune in to that event for an announcement of some kind, rather trying to "spoil the surprise" by asserting they have already confirmed what's going to happen. I believe they are trying to fatigue the readers of Weld before he has a chance to speak for himself. However, I also believe Weld may be taking advantage of this in an expert way. The Rumors, started by Janet Wu, with no source listed: https://www.wcvb.com/article/former-mass-gov-william-weld-to-announce-possi… Boston Herald- 1/23: https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/23/ex-mass-gov-weld-weighs-presidentia… Boston Globe- 1/31: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/01/31/weld-eyes-presidential-campaig… "He has flatly denied a WCVB-TV report that he has taken a leave from his law firm, Mintz Levin, and that an announcement about a presidential campaign could be imminent. “No, not correct, either item,” he wrote in an e-mail to the Globe Wednesday night." I should note that I jokingly included in my Conflicts of Interest- "thinks Bill Weld is a good Libertarian". I wrote that because I am from Massachusetts, Bill Weld was my Governor (though I was a pre-teen when he left office), I have been able to attend lots of events and speeches he has given over the past 2 years, and I've gotten to know him through his support of our Fishman for Auditor campaign in Massachusetts, one that would probably have been unheard of by most if not for his endorsement which carried a lot of weight for us. The Governor has been a friend to the Libertarian Party of Massachusetts and it's candidates, he has hosted events for us, he has travelled to numerous other LP conventions and events. I would be baffled to find out this was all in vain. If I am wrong on this, I will personally feel as betrayed as any of you, I will retract my conflict of interest statement with regret, and I will join in crafting our response and evolving our party to deal with these situations in the future. I don't think those feelings of betrayal and hopes dashed should be part of our response. Most importantly, we should confirm with facts before we take any action, and we should be prepared to act swiftly for a range of contingencies when the time comes. I think it is also an important lesson that we must learn, and one that is sorely lacking in this and other conversations we have, is that we are a real political party- not a think tank or a leader of Libertarian ideology, and we must focus on becoming an organization that expertly elects Libertarians to public office at all levels. This rumor has caused the entire Libertarian community to descend into chaos, some viewing it as good and good riddance, some as a bad sign that we, the LNC as an organization, cannot grapple with the two-party system because when we attract candidates who can win, we fail to provide the infrastructure and support that is required to mount a successful campaign. We must instill confidence in candidates, donors, and voters, that they can trust us with the monumental task of electing Libertarians even when we are the underdog at every level of competition. There are Libertarians running with R's next to their names for the sole reason that the R's have the machine that makes campaigning easy and winning possible. We should not view this as a "betrayal", but a failure on our part to court, to support, and to be effective in growing and advancing our stated mission and agenda. Let's focus on ourselves and what we can do to achieve Liberty in our Lifetime. Thank you for all you folks do for the Liberty of Others and I look forward to achieving it together. Very Respectfully, Jeff Lyons LNC Region 8- Alternate LPMass - Chairman Fishman for MA Auditor (2018)- Campaign Manager Get Outlook for Android On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 2:29 PM -0500, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org> wrote: I do not think framing the concerns below as a purity purge is nuanced or fair. Neither is about kindness (Starchild is the kindest person I know). I’m finding that the word “purity” is an LP shibboleth to avoid hard discussion when what we are really talking about is violence. However, the “celebration” mentioned below had to do with political opportunism not purity. Not everything can be papered over. On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:28 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org> wrote: Thank you for reaching out. I want to see our party electing and re-electing Libertarians, and the only way I see that happening is with a party that is much larger with more members. Your stated goal of excluding, or celebrating the exclusion, of those who are not pure libertarians on every issue runs counter to that objective of mine. My day job would be extraordinarily easier with even one Libertarian at the negotiating table in every state legislature committee, and bullying anyone who isn't apex 100/100 just guarantees we don't grow. I do recognize there is a difference between joining and being our standard-bearer, between keeping pledges and breaking them, and that people who join shouldn't then demand that we become non-libertarian. But it's undeniable that many Libertarians are brutish and nasty to one another, and a poisonous and unwelcoming environment makes the jobs of our candidate recruiters, fundraisers, and membership staff much harder. I try to be respectful to everyone, including those with whom I disagree, and you won't hear me calling for any purges of the impure. JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 On 2019-02-05 02:59, Roderick Long wrote: > I agree with Starchild in not being disappointed. Nonlibertarian or > semi-libertarian opportunists leaving the party for the same reasons > of political strategy that led them to join in the first place is > neither unexpected nor regrettable. Better to have them grow the > libertarian-ish wing of a mainstream party than an authoritarian-ish > wing of a libertarian party. > > R. > > ------------------------- > FROM: "Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net [lpradicals]" > <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com> > TO: LNCDiscussPublic(a)yahoogroups.com > CC: GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com; Alex Merced > <alex.merced(a)lp.org>; Alicia Mattson <agmattson(a)gmail.com>; Bill > Redpath <wredpath(a)his.com>; Caryn Ann Harlos <secretary(a)lp.org>; Craig > Bowden <craig.bowden(a)lp.org>; Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna(a)lp.org>; > Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org>; Erin Adams > <erin.adams(a)lp.org>; Jeff Hewitt <Jeffrey.Hewitt(a)lp.org>; Jeff Lyons > <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org>; Jim Lark <jwlark(a)lp.org>; Joe Bishop-Henchman > <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org>; John Phillips <john.phillips(a)lp.org>; > Joshua D. Smith <joshua.smith(a)lp.org>; Kenneth Brent Olsen > <kenneth.olsen(a)lp.org>; LP Radical Caucus > <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com>; Libertarian National Committee list > <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>; Nick Sarwark <chair(a)lp.org>; Phillip > Anderson <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org>; Richard Longstreth > <richard.longstreth(a)lp.org>; Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org>; > Steven Nekhaila <Steven.Nekhaila(a)lp.org>; Susan Hogarth > <susan.hogarth(a)lp.org>; Tim Hagan <tim.hagan(a)lp.org>; Victoria Paige > Lee <victoria.paige.lee(a)lp.org>; Whitney Bilyeu > <whitney.bilyeu(a)lp.org>; lpusmisc(a)yahoogroups.com > SENT: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 12:19 AM > SUBJECT: [lpradicals] Re: [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: > [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Weld > Developments > > I hear you Caryn Ann. Maybe nix the "expression of disappointment"? > Or express our disappointment that he doesn't have a stronger > commitment to libertarianism? But we dodged a bullet here, even if > saving the LP wasn't his motive. Going after him too harshly would > convey the impression that we still haven't recognized and embraced > this as a _POSITIVE_ development, not a negative one. It's also > possible, as I think someone mentioned in this thread, that Weld may > yet do some good for ballot access, etc., within the GOP, if we keep a > channel of communications open. > > Love & Liberty, > > ((( starchild ))) > > On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos(a)gmail.com > [LNCDiscussPublic] wrote: > >> But for his two-faced lie to our delegates I’d agree. > >> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:03 PM Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net >> [GrassrootsLibertarians] <GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com> >> wrote: >> >> I agree with Tim here. I'm not a Bill Weld fan, but I see no need >> to slam the door on his butt on the way out. >> >> High-profile candidates like Weld who aren't solidly libertarian >> actually _DO US A FAVOR_ by leaving the Libertarian Party. Far >> better that he go and compete in the Republican primary, where he >> will be able to argue _FOR_ freedom in contrast with other >> candidates who are less libertarian than he is, than that we run the >> risk of him supplanting candidates with better views to become the >> LP nominee and betray our principles to the lasting detriment of the >> party and the larger libertarian movement and cause of freedom for >> which we stand. >> >> No one familiar with Weld's record should be particularly surprised >> by this opportunism. Let's move on, wish him well in promoting >> freedom as a Republican to whatever limited extent that party will >> embrace it, and let any egg on our faces serve as a valuable lesson >> to Libertarians not to succumb to the siren songs of big names, big >> money, establishment credentials, etc.., next time such a candidate >> comes along. >> >> Love & Liberty, >> >> ((( starchild ))) >> Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San Francisco* >> (415) 625-FREE >> starchild(a)lp.org >> @StarchildSF >> >> *Views expressed here are my own and not necessarily those of the >> LPSF >> >> On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:07 PM, lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org wrote: >> >> Here is one source: >> > https://commonwealthmagazine.org/politics/weld-rejoins-the-republican-ranks/ >> >> While party members may feel betrayed, I don't see an advantage in >> harshly condemning him. An expression of disappointment and wishing >> him well in future endeavors would be appropriate. >> >> --- >> Tim Hagan >> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee >> >> On 2019-02-04 18:47, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >> I'd like to see the media source and verification of the source >> before >> acting. If this is true, I support having a statement ready if he >> announced >> in a few days. >> Richard Longstreth >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY) >> Libertarian National Committee >> richard.longstreth(a)lp.org >> 931.538..9300 > >>> Sent from my Mobile Device >> >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 19:36 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < >> >>> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org wrote: >> How many voters do we win over by condemning people for not being > >>> registered Libertarians? Don't forget that Gary Johnson was our >>> nominee > >>> after he ran in the GOP primary earlier in the same year. > >>> -Alicia > >>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:20 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > >>> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>>> I would support such a resolution. Our purpose statement >>> prioritizes us > >>>> being a unique political identity. > >>>> > >>>> Also this very arguably disqualifies him from our nomination if >>> it were > >>> to > >>>> take place today. > >>>> > >>>> This is, in my eyes, a betrayal. > >>>> > >>>> I’m hoping there is some computer glitch. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business >>> < > >>>> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> LNC Colleagues, > >>>>> > >>>>> Boston media reported today that a town clerk had leaked >>> information > >>>>> that Bill Weld has changed his voter registration from >>> Libertarian to > >>>>> Republican. This is in advance of the Governor's scheduled >>> appearance > >>> at > >>>>> Politics and Eggs at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics >>> on 02/15. > >>>>> This Breakfast at NHIOP has long been considered a must-attend >>> event > >>> for > >>>>> presidential candidates, and many are encouraged to announce >>> their runs > >>>>> at this event. Should Governor Weld intend to do so, I believe >>> it would > >>>>> be prudent that our leadership and staff be well prepared for >>> the > >>>>> inevitable media inquiries regarding the switch. I also >>> believe a > >>>>> statement from the Chair, or the LNC as a whole would be >>> beneficial > >>>>> given the tumultuous nature of our membership. > >>>>> > >>>>> At the very least, a Press release seems appropriate, >>> although, in this > >>>>> case, a resolution from the LNC condemning the actions would >>> have my > >>>>> full support as well. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Yours in Liberty, > >>>>> > >>>>> Justin O'Donnell > >>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative > >>>>> Chair- LPNH Platform Committee > >>>>> www.justinodonnell.me [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> Renew your membership today at >>> https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> * In Liberty,* > >>>> > >>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary >>> *- > >>>> Caryn.Ann. > >>>> Harlos@LP..org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. > >>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org > >>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > >>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ [2] > >>>> > >>>> >>> >> > ========================================================================= > >>>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * >>> Re-Legalize > >>> All > >>>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun >>> Laws * > >>>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The >>> Fed * End > >>>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the >>> Income > >>> Tax > >>>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market >>> Emergency > >>> Services > >>>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private >>> Sector * > >>>> Eliminate Regulation * > >>>> > >>>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www..LP.org [3] < > >>> http://www.lp.org/ > >>>>> * > >>>> >>> >> > ========================================================================= > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Lnc-votes mailing list >> Lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org >> http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-votes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "lncvotes" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to lncvotes+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google. 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DRAFT MINUTES - January 6, 2019 Electronic Meeting, V3
by Caryn Ann Harlos 06 Feb '19

06 Feb '19

As per Policy Manual 1.01.6: Meeting minutes for LNC electronic meetings or face-to-face meetings involving travel to a single site may be promoted from draft status to official during the time between LNC meetings as follows: • Draft minutes shall be mailed or emailed to all LNC Members not more than 15 days after each meeting. This condition has been met. • Corrections, clarifications, and changes to the draft minutes may be submitted for the Secretary's consideration for a period of 15 days following the distribution of the draft minutes. The Secretary shall distribute an updated version of the draft minutes not later than 7 days following the end of that submission period.This condition has been met. • The updated version shall be deemed official if no LNC Member challenges the content to the Secretary within 7 days of the distribution of the updated version. These provisions are void if the Secretary fails to distribute the draft minutes of a meeting within 15 days after that meeting, or fails to distribute an updated version as described above. Absent objection, the minutes will be deemed Auto-Approved on 2/13/19. • The Secretary shall send an official copy of meeting minutes to staff within 7 days of the promotion of those minutes from draft to official status. -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Re: [Lnc-business] [LNCDiscussPublic] Re: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Re: [Lnc-votes] Weld Developments
by Steve Scheetz 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

I agree with Starchild for the most part. He left, he is gone, and that is that. Let’s focus on what we need to do to grow the party, and recruit candidates for 2019 and 2020. HOWEVER, maybe we could take this as a learning exercise. IF he feels that being in the GOP will be better for him because the establishment would NEVER screw him over? Well, that part is not on us, but there are things we need to do better, and not because we do a crappy job, it is because of the reality we face on the ground. To be more competitive, money is a huge factor… We have the best message in the history of electoral politics, and yet, in my district, the man who won spent over $10,000,000 to tell the voters that he was not Scott Wallace and littering the county with his yard signs. What has been selling is FEAR. It is the only play the establishment has, and yet, they are successful because it has a lot of money to sell it. Yes, he lied to us. He did some good as well. Nearly $6,000 was given to the Sharpe Campaign, and he raised money for other LP candidates as well. Let’s not walk forward being pissed off, Let’s walk forward doing the one thing that will make him regret his decision. Let’s SUCCEED! Let’s Succeed in raising the money we need, succeed in achieving ballot access for our candidates without sweating it so much. Let’s start winning elections, because we have the tools, and we have the talent! Jeff showed the way in California, let’s follow his lead and change the reality on the ground here in our nation! I am working on raising money for ballot access and campaigns here in PA. There is a great deal to do and not much time to make it all happen, AND YET… we can. Just a couple thoughts on this Tuesday evening. Have a wonderful night folks, I will see you at the next LNC meeting! Sincerely, Steve Scheetz I think he will do more good in the GOP. And he still lied to us just like he lied to New York. I care more about the betrayal of our dejegates than being rough on Weld. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:19 PM Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net <mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net> [GrassrootsLibertarians] <GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com <mailto:GrassrootsLibertarians@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I hear you Caryn Ann. Maybe nix the "expression of disappointment"? Or express our disappointment that he doesn't have a stronger commitment to libertarianism? But we dodged a bullet here, even if saving the LP wasn't his motive. Going after him too harshly would convey the impression that we still haven't recognized and embraced this as a positive development, not a negative one. It's also possible, as I think someone mentioned in this thread, that Weld may yet do some good for ballot access, etc., within the GOP, if we keep a channel of communications open. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) On Feb 4, 2019, at 10:06 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos(a)gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com> [LNCDiscussPublic] wrote: But for his two-faced lie to our delegates I’d agree. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:03 PM Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net <mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net> [GrassrootsLibertarians] <GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com <mailto:GrassrootsLibertarians@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I agree with Tim here. I'm not a Bill Weld fan, but I see no need to slam the door on his butt on the way out. High-profile candidates like Weld who aren't solidly libertarian actually do us a favor by leaving the Libertarian Party. Far better that he go and compete in the Republican primary, where he will be able to argue for freedom in contrast with other candidates who are less libertarian than he is, than that we run the risk of him supplanting candidates with better views to become the LP nominee and betray our principles to the lasting detriment of the party and the larger libertarian movement and cause of freedom for which we stand. No one familiar with Weld's record should be particularly surprised by this opportunism. Let's move on, wish him well in promoting freedom as a Republican to whatever limited extent that party will embrace it, and let any egg on our faces serve as a valuable lesson to Libertarians not to succumb to the siren songs of big names, big money, establishment credentials, etc.., next time such a candidate comes along. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San Francisco* (415) 625-FREE starchild(a)lp.org <mailto:starchild@lp.org> @StarchildSF *Views expressed here are my own and not necessarily those of the LPSF On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:07 PM, lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org> wrote: Here is one source: https://commonwealthmagazine.org/politics/weld-rejoins-the-republican-ranks/ While party members may feel betrayed, I don't see an advantage in harshly condemning him.. An expression of disappointment and wishing him well in future endeavors would be appropriate. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2019-02-04 18:47, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: I'd like to see the media source and verification of the source before acting. If this is true, I support having a statement ready if he announced in a few days. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth(a)lp.org <mailto:richard.longstreth@lp.org> 931.538..9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 19:36 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp..org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: How many voters do we win over by condemning people for not being registered Libertarians? Don't forget that Gary Johnson was our nominee after he ran in the GOP primary earlier in the same year. -Alicia On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:20 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org> > wrote: > I would support such a resolution. Our purpose statement prioritizes us > being a unique political identity. > > Also this very arguably disqualifies him from our nomination if it were to > take place today. > > This is, in my eyes, a betrayal. > > I’m hoping there is some computer glitch. > > > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 7:02 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business < > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org> > wrote: > > > LNC Colleagues, > > > > Boston media reported today that a town clerk had leaked information > > that Bill Weld has changed his voter registration from Libertarian to > > Republican. This is in advance of the Governor's scheduled appearance at > > Politics and Eggs at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on 02/15. > > This Breakfast at NHIOP has long been considered a must-attend event for > > presidential candidates, and many are encouraged to announce their runs > > at this event. Should Governor Weld intend to do so, I believe it would > > be prudent that our leadership and staff be well prepared for the > > inevitable media inquiries regarding the switch. I also believe a > > statement from the Chair, or the LNC as a whole would be beneficial > > given the tumultuous nature of our membership. > > > > At the very least, a Press release seems appropriate, although, in this > > case, a resolution from the LNC condemning the actions would have my > > full support as well. > > > > > > > > -- > > Yours in Liberty, > > > > Justin O'Donnell > > LNC Region 8 Representative > > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee > > www.justinodonnell.me <http://www..justinodonnell.me/> > > > > Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! > > > -- > > * In Liberty,* > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- > Caryn.Ann. > Harlos@LP..org <mailto:Harlos@LP.org> <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> > or Secretary(a)LP.org <mailto:Secretary@LP.org> . > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org <mailto:LPedia@LP.org> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ <http://facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/> > > ========================================================================= > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * > Eliminate Regulation * > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www..LP.org <http://www.LP.org/> < http://www.lp.org/ > >* > ========================================================================= > _______________________________________________ Lnc-votes mailing list Lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org <mailto:Lnc-votes@hq.lp.org> http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-votes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lncvotes" group. 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Emailing: MEMBERSHIP-JAN-19-2.pdf
by Robert S. Kraus 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

Note: Thank you Jim Palmer for noticing an error in total signature count (Total "MEM") which doesn't effect "Active" counts. Just simply copied the wrong data over. Sorry. Please see attached for revised report! -- Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director Operations(a)LP.org Libertarian National Committee, Inc. 1444 Duke Street Alexandria, VA 22314 Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231

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Audit Committee
by Caryn Ann Harlos 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

Erin (or anyone) has the Audit Committee Chair been chosen yet? -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Prior committee applications followup done
by Caryn Ann Harlos 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

As I wrote before, a committee applicant had written HQ to (rightly in my view) complain that no further contact was ever made with them after their application. In the future, I hope we include that as a responsibility of the interim or permanent committee chairs. I took an hour this evening to go through the hundreds of pages and do a proper followup email to each and every one. -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Weld Developments
by Justin O'Donnell 05 Feb '19

05 Feb '19

LNC Colleagues, Boston media reported today that a town clerk had leaked information that Bill Weld has changed his voter registration from Libertarian to Republican. This is in advance of the Governor's scheduled appearance at Politics and Eggs at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics on 02/15. This Breakfast at NHIOP has long been considered a must-attend event for presidential candidates, and many are encouraged to announce their runs at this event. Should Governor Weld intend to do so, I believe it would be prudent that our leadership and staff be well prepared for the inevitable media inquiries regarding the switch. I also believe a statement from the Chair, or the LNC as a whole would be beneficial given the tumultuous nature of our membership. At the very least, a Press release seems appropriate, although, in this case, a resolution from the LNC condemning the actions would have my full support as well. -- Yours in Liberty, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative Chair- LPNH Platform Committee www.justinodonnell.me Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod !

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