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Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 102
by goldsteinatlarge 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

Erin, you should go ahead and vote. Your vote would be superseded by the representative Sam Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Erin Adams <erinadams(a)thefeldmanfoundation.org> Date: 7/15/17 5:11 PM (GMT-05:00) To: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 102 As an alternate, I can not vote on this however I DO want to weigh in. I fully understand why some are voting against this and agree that there needs to be a system in place for this. However, I do NOT feel that we should punish candidates for this committees failure to have already addressed this lack. If we agree that a system needs to be implemented and we KNOW that candidates will continue to reach out, we should in my opinion, address that lack of system in a far more timely manner so that we do not continue to face these types of "dilemmas" and in the mean time, we should not hamper candidates for our failure to do so In Liberty, Erin Adams Director of Fundraising and Events The Feldman Foundation (405) 780-2791 On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:54 PM, <lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: Send Lnc-business mailing list submissions to lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org You can reach the person managing the list at lnc-business-owner(a)hq.lp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Lnc-business digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Caryn Ann Harlos) 2. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Joshua Katz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:51:55 -0600 From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation Message-ID: <CAL4U=_rC2TL4VbiuCQYEgdkxB5X_mZp-NOgFs5iKvDJ8HJxSHQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sam I completely understand your position, and I certainly hope we come up with criteria. But I understand you to mean that you are not opposed - as Bill is- to assisting downticket campaigns, it is more that there are not established criteria. I get that and empathize greatly. I just ask you to consider that we are punishing a candidate for our inaction. If it isn't the concept - but the criteria - I would ask that you apply your own and if you could support Joe under a committee system that you support him here. -Caryn Ann On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I regretfully vote No on this motion. > > Despite the great respect I have for Joe Buchman, I must stay consistent > with my stance on the Wick's motion that until the LNC has a budget and > firm parameters for providing financial assistance to candidates other > than > POTUS, I will vote no on any such motion. > > Live Free, > > > > Sam Goldstein > Libertarian National Committee > Member at Large > 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 > Indianapolis IN 46260 > 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone > 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos < > carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I vote Yes. >> >> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 3:36 AM, David Demarest <dprattdemarest(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> I vote YES. >>> >>> Salut to Dr. Joe Buchman! >>> >>> ~David Pratt >>> >>> Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less >>> >>> ~David Pratt Demarest >>> LNC Region 6 Representative >>> LSLA Vice-Chair >>> LPNE SCC Secretary >>> LPRC Board Member >>> LPRC Nebraska State Coordinator >>> Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder >>> >>> On Jul 15, 2017 3:16 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>>> >>>> >>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm >>>> Pacific time.* >>>> *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild >>>> >>>> *Motion:* for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the >>>> Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah) >>>> >>>> -Alicia >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lnc-business mailing list >>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lnc-business mailing list >>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *In Liberty,* >> *Caryn Ann Harlos* >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. >> Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> >> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado >> <http://www.lpcolorado.org> >> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus >> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee >> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles: >> *We defend your rights* >> *And oppose the use of force* >> *Taxation is theft* >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lnc-business mailing list >> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Lnc-business mailing list > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > > -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 103
by Erin Adams 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

I vote yes understanding that it will only stand if Whitney does not vote On Jul 15, 2017 4:11 PM, <lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > Send Lnc-business mailing list submissions to > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lnc-business-owner(a)hq.lp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Lnc-business digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Daniel Hayes) > 2. Re: Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of > Joe Buchman (Starchild) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:48:43 -0500 > From: Daniel Hayes <danielehayes(a)icloud.com> > To: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation > Message-ID: <739A48DB-00BD-4ABD-AF74-965D6C7092DC(a)icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I vote "No". > > > Daniel Hayes > LNC At Large Member > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 15, 2017, at 12:46 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I regretfully vote No on this motion. > > > > Despite the great respect I have for Joe Buchman, I must stay consistent > > with my stance on the Wick's motion that until the LNC has a budget and > > firm parameters for providing financial assistance to candidates other > than > > POTUS, I will vote no on any such motion. > > > > Live Free, > > > > > > > > Sam Goldstein > > Libertarian National Committee > > Member at Large > > 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 > > Indianapolis IN 46260 > > 317-850-0726 Phone > > 317-582-1773 Fax > > > >> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos < > carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I vote Yes. > >> > >>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 3:36 AM, David Demarest < > dprattdemarest(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I vote YES. > >>> > >>> Salut to Dr. Joe Buchman! > >>> > >>> ~David Pratt > >>> > >>> Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less > >>> > >>> ~David Pratt Demarest > >>> LNC Region 6 Representative > >>> LSLA Vice-Chair > >>> LPNE SCC Secretary > >>> LPRC Board Member > >>> LPRC Nebraska State Coordinator > >>> Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder > >>> > >>>> On Jul 15, 2017 3:16 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>>> > >>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm > Pacific time. > >>>> > >>>> Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild > >>>> > >>>> Motion: for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the > Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah) > >>>> > >>>> -Alicia > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> In Liberty, > >> Caryn Ann Harlos > >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - > Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org > >> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado > >> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus > >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee > >> > >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > >> We defend your rights > >> And oppose the use of force > >> Taxation is theft > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Lnc-business mailing list > >> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Lnc-business mailing list > > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >

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Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 106
by Erin Adams 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

Thank you Tim for clarifying for me. On Jul 15, 2017 5:48 PM, <lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > Send Lnc-business mailing list submissions to > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lnc-business-owner(a)hq.lp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Lnc-business digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 102 (Tim Hagan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:47:54 +0000 (UTC) > From: Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr(a)yahoo.com> > To: "lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org" <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 102 > Message-ID: <1550597799.1308108.1500158874576(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Actually Erin, you can vote on e-mail motions. Your vote will count if > Whitney does not vote. If Whitney votes then your vote will be discarded. > > Tim Hagan > > From: Erin Adams <erinadams(a)thefeldmanfoundation.org> > To: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 102 > > As an alternate, I can not vote on this however I DO want to weigh in. I > fully understand why some are voting against this and agree that there > needs to be a system in place for this. However, I do NOT feel that we > should punish candidates for this committees failure to have already > addressed this lack. If we agree that a system needs to be implemented and > we KNOW that candidates will continue to reach out, we should in my > opinion, address that lack of system in a far more timely manner so that we > do not continue to face these types of "dilemmas"? and in the mean time, we > should not hamper candidates for our failure to do so > > In Liberty, > Erin Adams > Director of Fundraising and Events > The Feldman Foundation > (405) 780-2791 > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:54 PM, <lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > > Send Lnc-business mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ? lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ? http://hq.lp.org/mailman/ listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp. org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ? lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ? lnc-business-owner(a)hq.lp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Lnc-business digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? ?1. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Caryn Ann Harlos) > ? ?2. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Joshua Katz) > > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ---------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:51:55 -0600 > From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> > To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation > Message-ID: > ? ? ? ? <CAL4U=_rC2TL4VbiuCQYEgdkxB5X_ mZp-NOgFs5iKvDJ8HJxSHQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sam I completely understand your position, and I certainly hope we come up > with criteria.? But I understand you to mean that you are not opposed - as > Bill is- to assisting downticket campaigns, it is more that there are not > established criteria.? I get that and empathize greatly.? I just ask you to > consider that we are punishing a candidate for our inaction.? If it isn't > the concept - but the criteria - I would ask that you apply your own and if > you could support Joe under a committee system that you support him here. > > -Caryn Ann > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Sam Goldstein < > goldsteinatlarge(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I regretfully vote No on this motion. > > > > Despite the great respect I have for Joe Buchman, I must stay consistent > > with my stance on the Wick's motion that until the LNC has a budget and > > firm parameters for providing financial assistance to candidates other > > than > > POTUS,? I will vote no on any such motion. > > > > Live Free, > > > > > > > > Sam Goldstein > > Libertarian National Committee > > Member at Large > > 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 > > Indianapolis IN 46260 > > 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone > > 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos < > > carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I vote Yes. > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 3:36 AM, David Demarest < > dprattdemarest(a)gmail.com > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> I vote YES. > >>> > >>> Salut to Dr. Joe Buchman! > >>> > >>> ~David Pratt > >>> > >>> Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less > >>> > >>> ~David Pratt Demarest > >>> LNC Region 6 Representative > >>> LSLA Vice-Chair > >>> LPNE SCC Secretary > >>> LPRC Board Member > >>> LPRC Nebraska State Coordinator > >>> Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder > >>> > >>> On Jul 15, 2017 3:16 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm > >>>> Pacific time.* > >>>> *Co-Sponsors:*? Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild > >>>> > >>>> *Motion:*? for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the > >>>> Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah) > >>>> > >>>> -Alicia > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________ _________________ > >>>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/ listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp. org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ______________________________ _________________ > >>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/ listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp. org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> *In Liberty,* > >> *Caryn Ann Harlos* > >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, > >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) > - Caryn.Ann. > >> Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> > >> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado > >> <http://www.lpcolorado.org> > >> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus > >> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus. org> > >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee > >> > >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > >> *We defend your rights* > >> *And oppose the use of force* > >> *Taxation is theft* > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________ _________________ > >> Lnc-business mailing list > >> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/ listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp. org > >> > >> > > > > ______________________________ _________________ > > Lnc-business mailing list > > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/ listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp. org > > > > > > > -- > *In Liberty,* > *Caryn Ann Harlos* > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. > Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado > <http://www.lpcolorado.org> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus > <http://www.lpradicalcaucus. org> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > *We defend your rights* > *And oppose the use of force* > *Taxation is theft* >

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Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 102
by Erin Adams 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

As an alternate, I can not vote on this however I DO want to weigh in. I fully understand why some are voting against this and agree that there needs to be a system in place for this. However, I do NOT feel that we should punish candidates for this committees failure to have already addressed this lack. If we agree that a system needs to be implemented and we KNOW that candidates will continue to reach out, we should in my opinion, address that lack of system in a far more timely manner so that we do not continue to face these types of "dilemmas" and in the mean time, we should not hamper candidates for our failure to do so In Liberty, Erin Adams Director of Fundraising and Events The Feldman Foundation (405) 780-2791 On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:54 PM, <lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > Send Lnc-business mailing list submissions to > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lnc-business-owner(a)hq.lp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Lnc-business digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Caryn Ann Harlos) > 2. Re: Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation (Joshua Katz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:51:55 -0600 > From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> > To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation > Message-ID: > <CAL4U=_rC2TL4VbiuCQYEgdkxB5X_mZp-NOgFs5iKvDJ8HJxSHQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Sam I completely understand your position, and I certainly hope we come up > with criteria. But I understand you to mean that you are not opposed - as > Bill is- to assisting downticket campaigns, it is more that there are not > established criteria. I get that and empathize greatly. I just ask you to > consider that we are punishing a candidate for our inaction. If it isn't > the concept - but the criteria - I would ask that you apply your own and if > you could support Joe under a committee system that you support him here. > > -Caryn Ann > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Sam Goldstein < > goldsteinatlarge(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I regretfully vote No on this motion. > > > > Despite the great respect I have for Joe Buchman, I must stay consistent > > with my stance on the Wick's motion that until the LNC has a budget and > > firm parameters for providing financial assistance to candidates other > > than > > POTUS, I will vote no on any such motion. > > > > Live Free, > > > > > > > > Sam Goldstein > > Libertarian National Committee > > Member at Large > > 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 > > Indianapolis IN 46260 > > 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone > > 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos < > > carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I vote Yes. > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 3:36 AM, David Demarest < > dprattdemarest(a)gmail.com > >> > wrote: > >> > >>> I vote YES. > >>> > >>> Salut to Dr. Joe Buchman! > >>> > >>> ~David Pratt > >>> > >>> Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less > >>> > >>> ~David Pratt Demarest > >>> LNC Region 6 Representative > >>> LSLA Vice-Chair > >>> LPNE SCC Secretary > >>> LPRC Board Member > >>> LPRC Nebraska State Coordinator > >>> Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder > >>> > >>> On Jul 15, 2017 3:16 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm > >>>> Pacific time.* > >>>> *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild > >>>> > >>>> *Motion:* for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the > >>>> Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah) > >>>> > >>>> -Alicia > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> *In Liberty,* > >> *Caryn Ann Harlos* > >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, > >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) > - Caryn.Ann. > >> Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> > >> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado > >> <http://www.lpcolorado.org> > >> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus > >> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> > >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee > >> > >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > >> *We defend your rights* > >> *And oppose the use of force* > >> *Taxation is theft* > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Lnc-business mailing list > >> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Lnc-business mailing list > > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > > > > > > > -- > *In Liberty,* > *Caryn Ann Harlos* > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. > Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado > <http://www.lpcolorado.org> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus > <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > *We defend your rights* > *And oppose the use of force* > *Taxation is theft* >

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Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of Joe Buchman
by Caryn Ann Harlos 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

Hello everyone, I received the below request from Dr. Joe Buchman (Utah) and have been speaking with him about this for the past few weeks. I would like us to consider assisting him to our maximum allowed of 5K. ======== To the members of the LNC: The resignation of Representative Chaffetz nine days ago from the Third District of Utah has created a Special Election to be held 7 November 2017. Joe Buchman is the Libertarian Candidate for that seat and following a special election convention by the Libertarian Party of Utah is on the ballot for November 7th. There is a Democratic opponent. Three Republicans will face each other in a primary next month. See: https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-candidate-filings This is, we believe, the only remaining contest for federal office in 2017 with a Libertarian candidate. To date Dr. Buchman has invested $1,000.00 of his personal funds in the campaign and has raised approximately $250.00 from other donors, with promises for about $500 in process. Joe has just been scheduled as the sole guest for the first hour of Coast to Coast AM, a national networked late-night radio talk show with an estimated *2.5 million listeners*, for *Saturday evening, July 29th, 10:05PM to 11:00PM Pacific time*. Past show hosts Art Bell and Rollye James were self-identified Libertarians, and past guests have included Judge Jim Gray, Michael Badnarik, Aaron Russo, Harry Browne, Andre Marrou and Dr. Buchman himself (in 2008, when he last ran for the US Congress). See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=libertarian Joe will be discussing his campaign for the US Congress, his platform as an expression of the NAP and Self-Ownership paradigms, will be directing listeners to his website and will be requesting donations. The Coast to Coast website will also provide a link to his campaign site - www.GotoL.vote This is a request for national party funding for this singularly important Special Election campaign. The resignation of Representative Chaffetz has already generated significant national media attention, and this race is likely to continue to generate national media coverage as the replacement of Congressman Chaffetz will reflect, to some degree, a measure of voter confidence in the Trump administration. The Libertarian Party nationally will benefit from this election, the last of 2017 to include a Libertarian candidate for federal office. If a funding agreement can be reached prior to the show, Dr. Buchman would then appeal to Coast to Coast listeners with a promise that any donations received during the show will be matched dollar-for-dollar. The show will be replayed and will also be available as a download from the network website. Joe has been interviewed by three local papers (the Salt Lake Tribune, Deseret News and City Weekly) and by KSL Radio's Doug Wright. That 9 minute radio interview can be found at: https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1388&a=11898 Bottom line: Joe is experienced with media interviews, had a prior career in radio (including working with Bill Redpath at WTTS radio in the 1970s), is passionate about both Libertarian political pragmatism and philosophy, *and is currently scheduled for one of the most visible media appearances by any Libertarian Candidate this month* (and perhaps for the remainder of this year). This special election creates something of a special case for funding; an amount equivalent to that provided to the recent candidate in Montana would seem equitable. With gratitude for your consideration of this request, Joe PS If you do choose to listen to the KSL interview and/or to review the website and links to the print interviews there; ALL feedback, suggestions for improvement are also welcomed. -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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Measure & Report our Government Compliance Costs?
by Starchild 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

I sent this message last week, but inadvertently sent it to the unused LNC-discuss list which my email software sometimes auto-fills in the recipient field rather than to this list, so only Tim Hagan (who was copied on the original) would have received it. Anyway, resending now. What do you think, Tim? Others? Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform(a)earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF On Jul 4, 2017, at 2:08 AM, Starchild wrote: > It occurs to me it would be useful to publicize the total annual costs of government to the Libertarian Party. When we add up all the time/money spent on ballot access, filing FEC reports, taxes paid on things we buy, etc., how much is it costing us in money, hours, and as a percentage of our budget? Here are some benefits of tracking and reporting this information: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > • Reporting and commenting on the numbers (whether they are up or down, etc.) will make good grist for press releases and blog posts (for instance, when we pass the LP's own version of "Tax Freedom Day" each year) > > • The Libertarian Party taking and publicizing this step will encourage other organizations to do likewise > > • The more organizations start to measure and report these costs, the more people will be talking and thinking about the costs of government, and the more they do that the more likely they are to reach libertarian conclusions > > • Announcement of the annual numbers, and whether they are up or down, would serve as a kind of marketplace signal, and people are generally better off when markets function efficiently by virtue of having good information > > • We'll be able to make strategic decisions as needed based on the data (if, for instance, we were spending 90% or more of our revenues on government compliance, it would clearly be time to either give up on the LP as a vehicle to advance freedom, or take an entirely new approach!) > > • Letting government officials know how much their mandates cost organizations like ours will make them more sensitive to increasing that burden* (*Just a little joke to see if you're paying attention – as if they ever care about the harm they cause!) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tim, is this information you would be willing/able to include as a special category in your reports as treasurer? Personally I'd be ready to vote to add it to the job description in the Bylaws! > > Love & Liberty, > > ((( starchild ))) > At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee > RealReform(a)earthlink.net > (415) 625-FREE > @StarchildSF

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Re: [Lnc-business] Lnc-business Digest, Vol 63, Issue 86
by Erin Adams 15 Jul '17

15 Jul '17

I realize I am new and only an alternate but I agree that we have a fiduciary duty to be good stewards of the memberships money. I would support an Air BnB option as well In Liberty, Erin Adams Director of Fundraising and Events The Feldman Foundation (405) 780-2791 On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:50 AM, <lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > Send Lnc-business mailing list submissions to > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lnc-business-request(a)hq.lp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lnc-business-owner(a)hq.lp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Lnc-business digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: LNC Meeting Costs (Starchild) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:49:20 -0800 > From: Starchild <sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net> > To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>, > Wes > Benedict <wes.benedict(a)lp.org> > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] LNC Meeting Costs > Message-ID: <F05062EB-80E4-4994-A4DA-D0E2042B94A3(a)earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > Thank you Wes, the spreadsheet is very helpful! I was afraid that > when I did finally receive information on this, it might be incomplete, > expenses lumped together in broad catch-all categories, difficult to read, > or otherwise requiring more follow-up, but this chart looks pretty clean > and straightforward for the time period covered (2011 to 2014), although it > does appear that a couple meetings which took place in 2013 are not > included, as only one meeting is listed for that year. Nevertheless, this > is substantially what I was looking for. It does raise a question in my > mind though of why Robert couldn't have sent me this document when I first > asked him about meeting expense data, since it is several years old and not > I presume something that was just created recently. But I won't dwell on > that at this point. > > More of interest, the total per meeting costs are higher than I > had been led to believe. The average cost of an LNC meeting is listed as > $4,844, whereas the number Robert previously mentioned to me was $2,500 per > meeting. Admittedly, he may not have been including some elements of the > total cost, such as staff travel, in that lower figure. But not having any > better data, I subsequently cited the $2500 number repeatedly as an overall > per meeting cost estimate, I'm pretty sure both in meetings and via email, > without him or anybody else correcting me (I do have a vague recollection > of at least one person telling me in conversation not during a meeting that > they thought the cost was higher, but that might have been somebody not on > the LNC). It appears that either the rest of the LNC has been as ignorant > as myself of the real costs, or the misinformation of that incorrect lower > number was simply allowed to go unchallenged. > > I am glad to hear you say that staff has no requirement for > expensive meetings. I've repeatedly gotten the sense that Robert prefers > them, although I don't recall that he's ever said so in so many words. My > own view more than ever is that there is definite room for savings in these > numbers, both on the LNC side (pay for our own food and beverages, meet in > less posh venues than hotel conference rooms), and on the staff side (it > seems to me that we shouldn't need to take more than one staff member, at > most, away from the Alexandria office to fly them to a meeting and put them > up in a hotel for the weekend, when the LNC can always have a staff member > call in to the meeting if needed, as we often do with our attorney, our FEC > consultant, and other individuals. Even if we paid a staff member two day's > wages just to be "on call" for the weekend for when we might want to reach > them by phone, the cost to the party would be considerably less than flying > the person across the country and paying for a hotel room. > > Also glad to hear you say that there's nothing particularly secret > about the venue meeting contracts, although it's really more the cost data > than the contracts that I'm after with regard to meeting room contracts. A > hotel's "request" for "confidentiality" certainly doesn't sound like a > legally binding condition of secrecy imposed upon us however (if they're > demanding secrecy as a contract clause, we should be informed of that > before signing, but that seems unlikely, and I think our standard > negotiating position should be "we don't do secrecy"). In any case, > contracts have sometimes been sent out to this public email list or > disclosed during regular LNC meetings that are open to the public, so > shouldn't normally require any kind of written contract to pass along. If a > majority of the LNC feels a particular contract, or parts of it, should be > kept secret, as with the 2016 contract with the Johnson/Weld campaign has > been (until this September, if I recall correctly), it seems to me we can > address that on a case-by-case basis. I do appreciate you sending the > contracts (which I have yet to review) for our two upcoming meetings. > > Regarding other past meeting room costs (from 2014-2017) I'm not > in a particular rush to see that data, although I would like to see it at > some point in the next few months. Going further back, I'd also like to > know if there are records of free meeting spaces that have been used for > LNC meetings, and if so where they were. Of course originally there was > David Nolan's living room, and if it was good enough for our founders, > well! But even after the LNC got started and had like 25 people showing up > to meetings, I'll bet they sometimes met in spaces they didn't pay for. > Going forward, the important thing to me is that we see prior to each > meeting the estimated costs for various proposed sites, broken down as they > are in the spreadsheet, before we make any final decision on where to meet. > > Love & Liberty, > > ((( starchild ))) > At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee > RealReform(a)earthlink.net > (415) 625-FREE > @StarchildSF > > P.S. ? Someone gave me an excellent suggestion recently, which is that we > look into renting a whole house on AirBnB or another homesharing service > for LNC meetings. In Kansas City, for instance, we could have rented this > place, which I found in just a few minutes: > > > > https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/19641293?location=Kansas% > 20City&check_in=2017-08-19&check_out=2017-08-20&s=UkpxykRA > > At $419 per night and 8 beds, we could have 8 people sleeping there at the > affordable price of around $50 per person, and it would basically cover the > meeting space with a cost of $0 to the LP. Now it does say "no > parties/events" but I suspect if we'd told them what we had in mind, they'd > be fine with it. I think we should look for options like this before > spending thousands to be at a hotel. > > > > > On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: > > > Starchild, > > > > If I thought this information would be useful for an upcoming decision, > I'd make sure we bumped other things back and moved this forward. > > > > Robert has kept a spreadsheet detailing the LNC meeting costs. It's > significantly out of date and will take time to update. > > > > If I get a sense from a significant number on the LNC that it is > important enough for us to stop other work and get that spreadsheet > updated, we could certainly do that. > > > > Or, if the LNC would be satisfied to get a list of meetings from the > past just to get a sense of the costs, Robert has provided that and it's > attached. > > > > I don't personally see much coming from providing that information > urgently, but again, we could certainly get it done if it was a top > priority. > > > > In general, staff has usually included in our suggestions and research > low-cost options like Oklahoma and Alexandria, and the LNC has chosen > places that were not the lowest cost options staff has provided. I point > that out, because I want to make it clear that, if the costs of LNC > meetings is your concern, I don't want our membership or the LNC to think > that staff requires expensive meetings. We go with the flow of the LNC. Of > the 5 to 10 times I've suggested a specific location for an LNC meeting, I > don't think the LNC has taken my suggestion. I don't mind. I've thought > most of the places we've had meetings were reasonably decided. > > > > I think Robert has shown many of the contracts to you in person when > you've visited LPHQ. > > > > I believe Robert has offered to email all the contracts to you if you > sign the standard Non-Disclosure Agreement. I believe you have so far > chosen not to sign the non-disclosure agreement for certain reasons that > you're in a better situation to explain than me. It's not a big deal to me > personally, just has been our practice related to contracts. > > > > I don't think there's anything especially interesting or "secret" in any > of the contracts we've had with hotels to have LNC meetings. Payments to > hotels can be found in detail on the FEC website. > > > > I think sometimes vendors offer "discounts" and sometimes put in their > contracts terms requesting confidentiality, but I'm not going to go through > and dig up a bunch of contracts to see for myself unless I get a sense from > the LNC that that is what they want staff to spend time on. > > > > If the LNC could pass a motion requesting staff to provide all the LNC > meeting contracts to Starchild and other LNC members without requiring an > NDA, I'd feel more comfortable stopping other work and doing that, and not > requiring an NDA. > > > > We did not find the word "Confidential" in the upcoming LNC meeting in > Kansas City and New Orleans. Those contract are attached. > > > > > > Wes Benedict, Executive Director > > Libertarian National Committee, Inc. > > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 > > (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict(a)lp.org > > facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational > > Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership > > > > On 7/13/2017 10:03 AM, Aaron Starr wrote: > >> "Do you agree with Alicia and I that the LNC should be provided with > data on > >> our meeting costs as I've been requesting? Going forward, I would like > to > >> see those costs disclosed upfront, before a meeting site is selected, > and I > >> would also like to see the our past costs for each meeting this term, > within > >> some reasonable frame of time." > >> > >> While I am not personally fixated on the costs of meetings, I do believe > >> that it is perfectly reasonable for a member of this committee to > request > >> past data on our meeting costs and copies of contracts. That > information was > >> requested on June 6 and should have been provided by now. > >> > >> > >> Aaron Starr > >> (805) 583-3308 Home > >> (805) 404-8693 Mobile > >> starrcpa(a)gmail.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of > >> Starchild > >> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:22 AM > >> To: Nick Sarwark > >> Cc: Libertarian National Committee list > >> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] The Libertarian Party only has 2 full-time > >> staffers?! > >> > >> > >> Thanks Nick. So I guess the question remains, who is answering the > >> phones and handling routine office tasks? Austin Petersen says that > during > >> his time in the office, he developed a strong intern program. If so, I'm > >> wondering what happened to that program. Do we have any written records > of > >> it, and if so, can those records be sent to the LNC? > >> > >> My understanding - correct me if I'm wrong - is that we don't > >> currently have any interns, but if we have names and contact info of > past > >> interns, I'd volunteer to call them and ask about their experience > working > >> as interns for the LP. That could help us rebuild a program and start > >> getting more bodies in the office getting stuff done, including routine > >> tasks. > >> > >> Do you agree with Alicia and I that the LNC should be provided with > >> data on our meeting costs as I've been requesting? Going forward, I > would > >> like to see those costs disclosed upfront, before a meeting site is > >> selected, and I would also like to see the our past costs for each > meeting > >> this term, within some reasonable frame of time. Do you have any > objection > >> to this, and if not, what time frames seem reasonable to you? > >> > >> Love & Liberty, > >> > >> ((( starchild ))) At-Large > >> Representative, Libertarian National Committee > >> RealReform(a)earthlink.net > >> (415) 625-FREE > >> @StarchildSF > >> > >> > >> On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Nicholas Sarwark wrote: > >> > >>> Starchild, > >>> > >>> At present, the LNC has Wes Benedict, Eric Dixon, and Robert Kraus > >>> full-time and based out of the Alexandria office. My understanding is > >>> that Nick Dunbar and Mat Thexton are also based out of that office, > >>> though not full-time. We also have a number of contractors working > >>> remotely, including Andy Burns, Lauren Daugherty, Jess Mears, Denise > >>> Luckey, Bob Johnston, and Elizabeth Brierly. > >>> > >>> Wes and I are in the midst of interviewing candidates for Press > >>> Secretary, which is anticipated to be full-time, and will be moving on > >>> to interviewing candidates for a Candidate Support Specialist shortly. > >>> > >>> Yours in liberty, > >>> Nick > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net> > wrote: > >>>> Thank you, Alicia. Coupled with the Convention Oversight Committee > >>>> experience you mention, this does raise questions. But beyond the > >>>> issue of getting the requested information, I was honestly shocked to > >>>> hear that only Wes and Robert are usually in the office full time. If > >>>> their time is valuable enough to justify what we're paying them, > >>>> surely we should not be having them routinely spend that time on > >>>> tasks that lower-paid staffers, or volunteers, could be handling. > >>>> > >>>> I would like to hear what Nick Sarwark as chair thinks about both the > >>>> data request compliance and how staff hours are apparently being > >> allocated. > >>>> Love & Liberty, > >>>> > >>>> ((( starchild ))) At-Large > >>>> Representative, Libertarian National Committee > >>>> RealReform(a)earthlink.net > >>>> (415) 625-FREE > >>>> @StarchildSF > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Starchild, > >>>> > >>>> I have a lot of disagreements with your other ideas about how we > >>>> should find meeting locations and what arrangements are workable. > >>>> > >>>> However, I do agree with you that it should not take so long to > >>>> provide the LNC with basic data about the routine costs of our > >>>> meetings, and provide copies of the meeting space contracts showing > >>>> which of those expenses are required performance. You've been asking > >>>> for some time, and it's not that large of a data request. > >>>> > >>>> Recently, the Convention Oversight Committee was not in agreement > >>>> about whether to again use an outside professional to assist with the > >>>> 2020 site search, or whether to do it in-house with Robert Kraus as > the > >> point person. > >>>> When the issue of asking a staff member to take on such a > >>>> time-consuming job was discussed, the COC was told that when Wes > >>>> tells the LNC that staff is overloaded, that characterization does > >>>> not necessarily include Robert Kraus, and he was willing and able to > >>>> add such a large project to his plate. If that's the case, then I > >>>> don't see why there isn't time to fulfill this data request of yours > in a > >> more timely manner. > >>>> -Alicia > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Maybe I just haven't been paying attention. That's what LP > >>>>> operations manager Robert Kraus suggested when I spoke with him > >>>>> today and expressed surprise at his statement that he and Wes > >>>>> Benedict are the only paid staff working full time at our office. He > >>>>> said that if I'd read the report Wes presented at the last LNC > meeting, > >> I would have been aware of the situation. > >>>>> Robert told me this by way of explaining why he has not yet sent the > >>>>> LNC the details of how much we are paying for hotel meeting space, > >>>>> food and beverage obligations, staff airline flights, shipping > >>>>> costs, etc., in connection with LNC meetings. At the last LNC > >>>>> meeting in Pittsburgh in April, he told me in response to my asking > >>>>> him for this information that he would send it within a week or so. > >>>>> When I spoke with him today, he said that if I wanted him to stop > >>>>> what he was doing and send the information now, he would have to > >>>>> stop working on updating donor information to help us raise money, > >>>>> because he was the only person in the office right now. When I asked > >>>>> whether he could get us the meeting information prior to the next > >>>>> LNC meeting on August 19 (over 2 months from now, and 4 months from > when > >> he originally said he'd provide it), his response was "possibly". > >>>>> We have 11 people listed on our staff page > >>>>> (https://www.lp.org/staff/) not even counting individuals like our > >>>>> legal counsel and our FEC consultant who are kind of "on call", and > >>>>> although political director Carla Howell's contract wasn't renewed, > >>>>> the chair recently proposed adding an additional lower-level > >>>>> staffer. With that many folks on the roster, I don't understand why > >>>>> the two highest-paid individuals on staff are the only ones who are > >>>>> being paid full-time salaries and asked to staff the office largely > >>>>> by themselves. If this is true, it means that our highest-paid > >>>>> staffers are likely spending a significant part of their time doing > >>>>> routine office tasks like answering phone calls which could be > handled > >> by lower-paid staffers or even by volunteers. > >>>>> Robert did say he agreed with me that staff should not be asked to > >>>>> monitor or be involved in the party's social media outreach, which > >>>>> would potentially take a lot of their time away from other tasks. I > >>>>> also suggested that volunteers, instead of staff, could be the ones > >>>>> to research LNC meeting locations and present options to the LNC. > >>>>> Local activists in the cities where we're considering holding > >>>>> meetings would be the logical people to do this. If we don't have > >>>>> any local activists in a particular area able to help us find free > >>>>> or low-cost meeting venues there and help with details such as > >>>>> coordinating local transportation and folks able to host out-of-town > >>>>> visitors, it would beg the question of why we are meeting in that > >>>>> location instead of somewhere there is an active local Libertarian > >>>>> organization that can support us and which we in turn can support by > >>>>> seeking to arrange to have visiting LNC members make press > appearances, > >> attend local campaign events, do fundraising, etc., while in town. > >>>>> But if what Robert says is correct, it seems to me that we are not > >>>>> running our office efficiently. It also seems to me that LNC members > >>>>> being made to wait months and months after an LNC meeting to see > >>>>> what the actual expenses were for that meeting is unreasonable. > >>>>> Actually, we should be seeing such expenses listed before each > >>>>> meeting, since expenses like hotel meeting space fees, food and > >>>>> beverage obligations, staff airline flights, and shipping costs are > >>>>> in most cases known in advance. And we should be seeing estimates of > >>>>> these costs prior to even making a decision on where to meet, since > such > >> costs ought to factor into our decisions. > >>>>> Love & Liberty, > >>>>> > >>>>> ((( starchild ))) > >>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee > >>>>> RealReform(a)earthlink.net > >>>>> (415) 625-FREE > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Lnc-business mailing list > >>>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > >>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >>>>> > >>>> _____________________________________________ > > > > <LNC_NDA_STARCHILD-0717.pdf><lnc-meeting-exp-2011-2014.pdf><LNC - Dec > 2017.pdf><0817-Libertarian National Committee.pdf>________________ > _______________________________ > > Lnc-business mailing list > > Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org > > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > >

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Fwd: Endorsement
by Caryn Ann Harlos 14 Jul '17

14 Jul '17

Please consider ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joseph Buchman <drbuchman(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 7:46 PM Subject: Endorsement To: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> Caryn Ann, I'm asking for your endorsement at: https://www.crowdpac.com/races/2018/ut/federal/house/3 Feel free to pass along to others, even the LNC, with a request for endorsements there as well. Thanks, Joe _______________________ Joseph G. Buchman, PhD 584 Hillside Circle Alpine UT 84004 www.josephbuchman.com 435 602 0798 <(435)%20602-0798> -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: [lpradicals] Leading Chinese Dissident & Freedom Champion, Liu Xiaobo, has died – Free Liu Xia!
by Starchild 14 Jul '17

14 Jul '17

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Fwd: [lpradicals] Leading Chinese Dissident & Freedom Champion, Liu Xiaobo, has died – Free Liu Xia!
by Starchild 14 Jul '17

14 Jul '17

Forwarding this message because the LNC's email server is incapable of processing messages with more than a handful of recipients. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Starchild sfdreamer(a)earthlink.net [lpradicals]" <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com> > Date: July 13, 2017 1:57:43 PM GMT-08:00 > To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org>, LPSF Discussion List <lpsf-discuss(a)yahoogroups.com>, International Society for Individual Liberty <isil(a)isil.org>, International Association of Libertarian Parties <ghardy(a)ialp.org>, CALibs(a)yahoogroups.com, California Liberty <ca-liberty(a)yahoogroups.com>, LP Radical Caucus <lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com>, LPC Candidates List <calpcandidates(a)yahoogroups.com>, Cal Libertarians - Discuss <callib(a)googlegroups.com>, Grassroots Libertarians Caucus <GrassrootsLibertarians(a)yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [lpradicals] Leading Chinese Dissident & Freedom Champion, Liu Xiaobo, has died – Free Liu Xia! > Reply-To: lpradicals(a)yahoogroups.com > > > > China's most famous dissident, who was awarded the Nobel Prize in 2010 while in jail, has died under hospital arrest, of cancer that his regime captors allowed to go untreated. The New York Times has an obituary story about him here: > > https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/world/asia/liu-xiaobo-dead.html > > The passage of this brave man is a reminder that the cause of freedom is worldwide, and that there are many people around the world who may never have heard of libertarianism or the Libertarian Party but are nonetheless champions and martyrs in that struggle. Liu is survived by his wife, Liu Xia, who evidently remains under house arrest. Here the BBC tells of the couple's love story, and the suffering she has undergone: > > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40544415 > > Love & Liberty, > > ((( starchild ))) > At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee > RealReform(a)earthlink.net > (415) 625-FREE > @StarchildSF > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Alison Reynolds, International Tibet Network" <alison(a)tibetnetwork.org> >> Date: July 13, 2017 8:30:20 AM GMT-08:00 >> Subject: Chinese Freedom Champion, Liu Xiaobo, has died: Free Liu Xia! >> Reply-To: "Alison Reynolds, International Tibet Network" <alison(a)tibetnetwork.org> >> >> View this email in your browser >> >> 13 July 2017 >> >> Dear Starchild, >> >> You may have seen the desperately sad news that Liu Xiaobo has died. >> >> This is a tragedy of massive proportions. China has lost one of the greatest champions for a democratic future; the international community has lost an inspirational advocate of social responsibility, and the Tibet movement has lost a true friend. We are appalled at the inhumane refusal of China’s leaders to allow Liu Xiaobo to obtain timely medical care and taste real freedom, and we send our deepest condolences to his wife, Liu Xia, and to all Liu Xiaobo’s family and friends. Read our statement here. >> >> Thank you for supporting Liu Xiaobo; more than 40,000 people signed the petition for his release that we circulated last week. We will now be encouraging Tibet Groups to step up their advocacy for the release of Liu Xia, and to ensure that our governments do not let up in their pressure on China for the release of all political prisoners. >> >> Free Liu Xia! >> >> In solidarity and great sadness, >> >> Alison, Jigdal, Nyima, Mandie, Tereluz, Penghsuan and Lobsang >> International Tibet Network Secretariat >> >> International Tibet Network is funded by Foundations and receives contributions from its Member Groups, but we also receive donations from individuals like yourself. All contributions will go to help strengthen Tibet campaigns around the world. www.tibetnetwork.org/donate >> >> >> >> >> Copyright © 2017 International Tibet Network, All rights reserved. >> You are receiving this email because you have previously signed an online action or made a donation to International Tibet Network, and opted to receive updates. >> >> Our mailing address is: >> International Tibet Network >> 2 Baltic Place >> London, Europe N1 5AQ >> United Kingdom. > > > __,_._,___

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