December 2017 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

A few missing messages on the archive
by Ken Moellman 06 Dec '17

06 Dec '17

All - Due to a technical mistake on my part, there are some messages missing in the archive from 11PM ET last night until now. I'm in the process of fixing this right this moment. I just wanted to give everyone a heads-up that this had occurred and I'm working to fix it. ken -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. Libertarian National Committee Region 3 Alternate

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Region 2 Report
by Ed Marsh 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

The Region 2 Report is attached. -- Ed Marsh Region 2 Representative to LNC

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LNC meeting giant printed handout and LP.org page
by Wes Benedict 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Dear LNC: Attached is the main giant printed handout you'll receive at the LNC meeting this weekend in New Orleans. If you want to print something before your flight, I recommend printing that attachment and scribbling your notes on it. That attachment doesn't contain all of the reports. You can find all of the reports (except for the confidential reports) at the link below, and more will get posted as they are received: https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/ Some additional reports will likely be printed and handed out at the meeting as well. Thanks, -- Wes Benedict, Executive Director Libertarian National Committee, Inc. 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict(a)lp.org facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

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Thursday night dinner
by Sam Goldstein 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

I've made a reservation at 8:30 pm at the Little Gem Saloon (http://www.littlegemsaloon.com/) for 8 people. I'm sure we can expand that if more people are interested. It appears to be about 2-3 blocks from the Hyatt so let's meet in the lobby about 8:15pm. My flight gets in around 7:00 pm so I go to the restaurant from the airport. My cell number is below. See you in a couple days! -- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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Thursday night dinner
by Sam Goldstein 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Other than the Demarests and Tim Hagan, anyone one else going to be at NOLA Thursday around 8:30pm for dinner? -- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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Budget meeting
by Joshua Katz 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

It appears (I just noticed last night; I thought our next meeting was in April) that we have a budget meeting in December. Ahead of that, I wanted to ask if the EC had a timeline for the proposed budget. Last term, we held one or two teleconferences after we had the proposed budget. I found those helpful, and would encourage us to do that again. I don't know that they resolved much, but at least we knew going in where the flashpoints were. In any case, I'd appreciate knowing when we can expect the proposed budget so I can plan my time accordingly. Joshua A. Katz

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Revised Agenda for New Orleans Meeting
by Nicholas Sarwark 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Dear All, Attached is a revised agenda for the LNC meeting this weekend, based on feedback from a number of LNC members. Total agenda time is now 680 minutes. Yours in liberty, Nick _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business

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Chair's Proposed Agenda
by Nicholas Sarwark 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Dear All, Attached is the proposed agenda for next week's LNC meeting with all of the items I am aware of from email list traffic and specific requests. If there are additions or corrections, please email me. Yours truly, Nick

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Re: [Lnc-business] Bake the Cake
by Caryn Ann Harlos 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Tom Krannawitter wrote this today (quote below). This is the tact we need to take. It does not countenance anyone's particular opinions and put the enemy lines right where they belong - the State. I reiterate. We have a ton of people right now who think it is Libertarian to force the baking of cakes. We have an opportunity to set that record straight and stop the implicit idea that religious people have rights that others do not. I do not begrudge them escaping illegitimate state coercion just like I do not begrudge ANY tax cut, but always say that everyone should get them, and everyone has these rights. If we are scared of our own shadow on this, we are not leading the way to libertarian reasoning rather than the polarized identity politics of today. ==Tomorrow the Supreme Court will hear arguments in the case of Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission. Both sides, in and out of the courtroom, will focus on the wrong arguments. Those who oppose baker Jack Phillips, on the one hand, will argue that government has the rightful authority to command one class of property owners (cake ingredient owners) with whom they will trade. Those who oppose baker Jack Phillips will ignore completely other property owners, such as those who own cash and are looking to trade it for cakes. They don't want government commanding cash owners with whom they must trade. Only cake ingredient owners. Those who support baker Jack Phillips, on the other hand, will emphasize either the Free Speech Clause or Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment, or both. They will concede, either explicitly or implicitly, that government has the rightful authority to command one class of property owners (including cake ingredient owners) with whom they will trade. But they will insist on some kind of exemption from the commanding power of government for select people with select religious beliefs. Neither of these arguments has anything to do with equal protection of the laws for the person and private property of every American citizen. Neither of these arguments has anything to do with the principle of equal freedom for each and every American citizen to interact and trade with those who agree, mutually and voluntarily, to interact and trade. The Constitutional answer in this case would be to strike down the provision of the Colorado so-called "public accommodations" code [CO Rev Stat § 24-34-601 (2016)] and the Colorado Civil Rights Commission's enforcement of it as violations of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. A law cannot offer equal protection when it singles out a certain class of property owners and commands with whom they will or will not trade. Of course, it is almost certain no one on the Court will make that argument, with the possible exception of Justice Thomas. Instead, we are almost certain to hear and read arguments about total government control over business properties versus total government control over business properties with a special exemption for business owners who claim to hold certain religious beliefs. Sigh.== -- IN LIBERTY, CARYN ANN HARLOS Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado [1] Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: _We defend your rights_ _And oppose the use of force_ _Taxation is theft_ On 2017-12-04 16:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: > We should put out something with a libertarian perspective on this. It may be decided in favour of the bakers but it will be on "religious" grounds rather than the freedom that belongs to us all. I know some will not want to touch this with a ten-foot pole. But freedom of association (including contract) for peaceful people IS what we always held. It is about time we cleared that up. > > https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/16-111?utm_source=Cornell+Legal+Info… > > -- > > IN LIBERTY, > CARYN ANN HARLOS > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado [1] > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > _We defend your rights_ > _And oppose the use of force_ > _Taxation is theft_ Links: ------ [1] http://www.lpcolorado.org/

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Chair's Report - 8/20/17 through 12/9/17
by Nicholas Sarwark 05 Dec '17

05 Dec '17

Dear All, Please find attached my written Chair's report for the period from the last LNC meeting through to the upcoming meeting in New Orleans. I expect that there may be some supplements to my written report at the meeting. Yours in liberty, Nick _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business

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