[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

Ken Moellman ken.moellman at lpky.org
Tue Nov 26 03:18:13 EST 2019


   There appears to be 6 voting in favor of the amendment and the
   2-business-day period to vote ended Monday.
   That would mean the amendment would become the main motion, with a
   comment period ending in 5 days or after 24 hours of no discussion, per
   the Operating Rules.
   Ken
   Sent from Android device

   On Nov 23, 2019 10:50 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
   <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:

     Aye

     Dan Hull (per our conversation)

     On 11/22/19 5:29 PM, Vice Chairman Bryan Short via Lpk-execomm
     wrote:
     > Aye
     >
     > Sent from my iPad
     >
     >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm
     <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
     >>
     >> Aye
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> Eric Cranley
     >>
     >>
     >> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
     >>
     >>
     >> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via
     Lpk-execomm" <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> Yes from Mark
     >>
     >>
     >> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
     >> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
     >>
     >>> The amendment to become the main motion.
     >>>
     >>> ---
     >>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
     >>> 4th District Chair
     >>> State Party IT Director
     >>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
     >>>
     >>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
     >>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I
     feel
     >>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
     >>>>
     >>>> Randall Daniel
     >>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
     >>>>> Aye
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Cristi
     >>>>>
     >>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> All -
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been
     no
     >>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which
     triggers an
     >>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>  From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have
     started
     >>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely
     be the
     >>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>> ---
     >>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
     >>>>>> 4th District Chair
     >>>>>> State Party IT Director
     >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>
     >>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
     >>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and
     then tabled
     >>>>>>> to
     >>>>>>>    email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion was
     to give
     >>>>>>> D6 an
     >>>>>>>    additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let
     them buy
     >>>>>>> gear
     >>>>>>>    and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was
     needed to
     >>>>>>> open a
     >>>>>>>    bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
     >>>>>>>    I second Cristi's official amendment.
     >>>>>>>    I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party
     level and
     >>>>>>>    distribute to all affiliates (including county
     affiliates) and if
     >>>>>>> D6
     >>>>>>>    needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part
     too.
     >>>>>>>    Ken
     >>>>>>>    Sent from Android device
     >>>>>>>    On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
     >>>>>>>     wrote:
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>      I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion
     would
     >>>>>>> read as
     >>>>>>>      follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper
     stickers and
     >>>>>>>      distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs
     $100 to
     >>>>>>> open a
     >>>>>>>      bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from
     whatever
     >>>>>>> funds are
     >>>>>>>      currently due to them.
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>      Cristi
     >>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>      On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
     >>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
     >>>>>>>      amending
     >>>>>>>> the first motion?
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ken
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>> ---
     >>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
     >>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
     >>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
     >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
     >>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
     >>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this help
     >>>>>>> the
     >>>>>>>      state
     >>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and
     bc
     >>>>>>> the
     >>>>>>>      items
     >>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party  can help other
     >>>>>>> affiliates
     >>>>>>>      with
     >>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that
     >>>>>>> may be
     >>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>> Cristi
     >>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
     >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
     >>>>>>> original
     >>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>> ---
     >>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
     >>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
     >>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
     >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
     >>>>>>>>>>
     >>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
     >>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore
     is
     >>>>>>>      running out
     >>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
     >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
     >>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have
     >>>>>>> been
     >>>>>>>      busy
     >>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
     >>>>>>> discount
     >>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50
     for
     >>>>>>> 500
     >>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter,
     we
     >>>>>>>      bought
     >>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
     >>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure
     by
     >>>>>>> LPKY
     >>>>>>>      for
     >>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention
     to
     >>>>>>>      share
     >>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
     >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
     >>>>>>> improved
     >>>>>>>      banner
     >>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or
     >>>>>>> at
     >>>>>>>      least
     >>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm
     wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
     >>>>>>> Kentucky -
     >>>>>>>      6th
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in
     >>>>>>> Miami.
     >>>>>>>      I've
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP
     >>>>>>> stuff
     >>>>>>>      all
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out
     if
     >>>>>>> the
     >>>>>>>      state
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
     >>>>>>> bulk) and
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of
     >>>>>>> literature
     >>>>>>>      this
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and
     I
     >>>>>>>      assume
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
     >>>>>>> going to
     >>>>>>>      get
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
     >>>>>>>      deadline to
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
     >>>>>>> Maybe,
     >>>>>>>      maybe
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had his
     >>>>>>>      campaign
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open
     >>>>>>> it.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
     >>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm
     wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
     >>>>>>>      conditional:
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF
     >>>>>>> papers
     >>>>>>>      are
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    before we cut the check
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the
     >>>>>>> the
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    understanding and agreement that it will be used
     to
     >>>>>>> open
     >>>>>>>      the
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be
     filed
     >>>>>>> in
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    with that.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of
     Kentucky
     >>>>>>> -
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
     >>>>>>> opening a
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
     >>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional
     >>>>>>> on
     >>>>>>>      them
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with
     >>>>>>> KREF
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
     >>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    We cannot appropriate funds if the district
     >>>>>>> doesn't
     >>>>>>>      have a
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    account.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at
     the
     >>>>>>>      state
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    can give those to D6 as well.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to
     give
     >>>>>>> out
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    people with interest.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    So the few questions I have:
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?
     >>>>>>> Would
     >>>>>>>      the
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that
     >>>>>>> is
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing?  If so,
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind
     anything
     >>>>>>>      larger
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to
     buy
     >>>>>>> this
     >>>>>>>      in
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    and distribute?
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Ken
     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Sent from Android device
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     >>>>>>>      Membership & Outreach Director
     >>>>>>>      502-457-6765
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