[Lpk-execomm] LPKY D6 Electronic Mail Vote - 11/14/2019 - Motion

Vice Chairman Bryan Short bryan.short at lpky.org
Fri Nov 22 17:29:28 EST 2019


Aye

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 2:43 PM, Eric Cranley via Lpk-execomm <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
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> Eric Cranley
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> Treasurer, Libertarian Party of KY
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> "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils." -Gen Stark
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> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:39 PM -0500, "Liberty Felix via Lpk-execomm" <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
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> Yes from Mark
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> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 3:06 PM Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm <
> lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
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>> The amendment to become the main motion.
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>> ---
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> 4th District Chair
>> State Party IT Director
>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
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>>> On 2019-11-21 13:48, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>> Are we voting on the original motion or on Cristi's motion? I feel
>>> we've lost something in a break from format.
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>>> Randall Daniel
>>>> On 2019-11-21 11:18, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>> Aye
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>>>> Cristi
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>>>>> On 11/21/19 10:19 AM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> All -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Per the Operating Rules, section 500.5.4(A)(3), there's been no
>>>>> further discussion on the matter for over 24 hours, which triggers an
>>>>> automatic vote, and there are two days to vote.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From a technical standpoint, the subject line should have started
>>>>> with "MOTION:", so if there's an objection, that would likely be the
>>>>> grounds upon which to make it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Otherwise, I vote AYE.
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>>>>> ---
>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2019-11-19 15:20, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>> Chris - the motion was made and seconded on the call and then tabled
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>   email.  That's how we got here.  The original motion was to give
>>>>>> D6 an
>>>>>>   additional $100 above their regular disbursement, to let them buy
>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>   and to make sure they had over $100 in case that was needed to
>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>   bank account (some banks require that much, some don't).
>>>>>>   I second Cristi's official amendment.
>>>>>>   I think it makes sense to buy gear at the state party level and
>>>>>>   distribute to all affiliates (including county affiliates) and if
>>>>>> D6
>>>>>>   needs the extra funds to open an account to do that part too.
>>>>>>   Ken
>>>>>>   Sent from Android device
>>>>>>   On Nov 19, 2019 3:13 PM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     I’d like to amend the main motion. The amended motion would
>>>>>> read as
>>>>>>     follows:  LPKY to pay $55 toward lapel and bumper stickers and
>>>>>>     distribute to active affiliates, and if LPKY D6 needs $100 to
>>>>>> open a
>>>>>>     bank account, LPKY will grant the difference from whatever
>>>>>> funds are
>>>>>>     currently due to them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Cristi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     On 11/19/19 11:17 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay so you intend on bringing a second motion forward, not
>>>>>>     amending
>>>>>>> the first motion?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 20:14, Cristi Kendrick wrote:
>>>>>>>> Speaking in favor of the motion:  not only will this help
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>> party have additional schwag for 2020 events, in turn and bc
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>     items
>>>>>>>> are so discounted, the state party  can help other
>>>>>> affiliates
>>>>>>     with
>>>>>>>> additional schwag.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This motion has nothing to do with any other motions that
>>>>>> may be
>>>>>>>> presented to offer D6 cash/funding to open a bank account.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cristi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Ken Moellman
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>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I think you might be looking for a motion to amend the
>>>>>> original
>>>>>>>>> motion, and I would second that amendment.  :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-18 11:41, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Looking for a second to the motion, please. The LPStore is
>>>>>>     running out
>>>>>>>>>> of these items.
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/19 8:23 AM, Cristi Kendrick via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am putting in an order to the store today, I too have
>>>>>> been
>>>>>>     busy
>>>>>>>>>>> and wasn't able to get this until today. Without the
>>>>>> discount
>>>>>>>>>>> code, or with shipping included, we're looking at $50 for
>>>>>> 500
>>>>>>>>>>> lapel stickers and 50 bumper stickers (on the latter, we
>>>>>>     bought
>>>>>>>>>>> them out).
>>>>>>>>>>> /_I'd like to make a motion to approve $60 expenditure by
>>>>>> LPKY
>>>>>>     for
>>>>>>>>>>> bumper stickers and lapel stickers, with the intention to
>>>>>>     share
>>>>>>>>>>> some of these with D6 for their next event_/.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, and as a side note, I'm working on a new and
>>>>>> improved
>>>>>>     banner
>>>>>>>>>>> for LPKY and this would free up a banner to give D6, or
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>     least
>>>>>>>>>>> borrow on for the Dec. event.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/17/19 10:11 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just FYI the legal name is "Libertarian Party of
>>>>>> Kentucky -
>>>>>>     6th
>>>>>>>>>>>> District"
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in the car on my way back from the LNC meeting in
>>>>>> Miami.
>>>>>>     I've
>>>>>>>>>>>> been either stuck in the meeting or trying to avoid LP
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>     all
>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend.  I did get to see the beach anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The point of kicking this to email was to figure out if
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>> party was going to buy gear or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, does the state party just want to buy stuff (in
>>>>>> bulk) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> distribute to all districts?  We burned a LOT of
>>>>>> literature
>>>>>>     this
>>>>>>>>>>>> year, which is good, but we're now very low in D4 and I
>>>>>>     assume
>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere else too, including the state party.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Related: Based on my experience, we're probably not
>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>     get
>>>>>>>>>>>> the D6 bank account stuff all squared away before the
>>>>>>     deadline to
>>>>>>>>>>>> buy gear and have it delivered on-time.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, does D6 need at least $100 to open an account?
>>>>>> Maybe,
>>>>>>     maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  Depends on the bank.  I think Hugenberg had his
>>>>>>     campaign
>>>>>>>>>>>> account at US Bank and only needed $20 or $25 to open
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>>>>>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2019-11-16 13:34, John Hicks via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not clear on what you're suggesting that be made
>>>>>>     conditional:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * that we wait till the account is open and the KREF
>>>>>> papers
>>>>>>     are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   before we cut the check
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * or that we go ahead and send a check to D6 with the
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   understanding and agreement that it will be used to
>>>>>> open
>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   and that the necessary KREF paperwork will be filed
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   with that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we make the check to "Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> District 6,"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only way it could reasonably be received is by
>>>>>> opening a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> checking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> account in that name and depositing it. Right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - John
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2019 08:15 AM, Chris Wiest via Lpk-execomm
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we make the motion regarding payment conditional
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>     them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening a bank account and filing the paperwork with
>>>>>> KREF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding same?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Ken Moellman via
>>>>>> Lpk-execomm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We cannot appropriate funds if the district
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>     have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bank
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   We can also buy in bulk at the state level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   As noted last night, we also have tri-folds at the
>>>>>>     state
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   can give those to D6 as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   It also sounded as if D6 was just looking to give
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   people with interest.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   So the few questions I have:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   1. Is there a specific thing D6 is looking for?
>>>>>> Would
>>>>>>     the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   tri-folds, that the state party has, suffice?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   2. If not, is there anything on LPstore.org that
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appealing?  If so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   what, and what qty and cost? Keep in mind anything
>>>>>>     larger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3x5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   likely needs to have a 'paid for by' line added.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   3. If #2 is true, does the state party want to buy
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>     in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   and distribute?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Sent from Android device
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>>>>>>>>>> Secretary,
>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
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>>>>>>     Secretary,
>>>>>>     Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>>     Membership & Outreach Director
>>>>>>     502-457-6765
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