[Lpk-execomm] MOTION Motion to call D6 organizing convention

Ken Moellman ken.moellman at lpky.org
Wed Jul 31 14:49:52 EDT 2019


I am not raising objection in this case, but also asking that this sort 
of emergency-vote-by-email not become the norm.

The process of voting by email is outlined in a way that is 
intentionally meant to allow debate and to allow everyone to have a say. 
It is, by its nature, slower than an in-person or teleconference 
meeting. Emergencies are better handled by conference call, which is 
section B of the same operating rule (though that language needs some 
clean-up).

To set precedent, to permit voting in this way, would allow for 
ram-rodding. In this case, this isn't an issue that is controversial in 
any way, but this should not be the precedent going forward.  That is my 
point.

---
Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
4th District Chair
State Party IT Director
Libertarian Party of Kentucky

On 2019-07-31 14:11, Chris Wiest wrote:
> Mr. Moellman,
> 
> I am aware of the rules.  I am also aware of my discretion as chair to
> handle matters by unanimous consent.  We are ending discussion by
> unanimous consent (unless someone objects), though a 1/3 formal vote
> could be sufficient to do so.
> 
> Unless there is an objection.
> 
> Please confirm, for the record, that you are not raising an objection
> to our ending discussion early.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm 
>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>> 
>> As a reminder on the rules of email ballots....
>> 
>> A) The State Party Executive Committee shall provide and manage an 
>> official mailing list for
>> electronic discussion and voting to every committee of the Party, made 
>> viewable to Voting
>> Members, using official LPKY.org email addresses assigned by the State 
>> Party.
>> 1) No more than two (2) motions by electronic mail shall be considered 
>> by a committee at the
>> same time. A committee member may introduce a motion by opening a 
>> distinct thread on the
>> appropriate mailing list. The subject line must begin with “MOTION:” 
>> in capital letters,
>> followed by subject in normal case.
>> 2) Discussion may begin once another member has seconded the motion. A 
>> motion is considered
>> failed if it is not seconded within two (2) business days.
>> 3) The question will automatically be called, unless tabled to the 
>> next special or regular meeting,
>> by a vote of one third (1/3) or more of the committee, after one (1) 
>> full business day with no
>> discussion, or five (5) business days after the motion was seconded, 
>> whichever comes first. Once
>> the question has been called, members shall have two (2) business days 
>> to vote.
>> 4) No action shall be considered passed without a vote of the majority 
>> of all seated members of
>> that committee.
>> 
>> ---
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> 4th District Chair
>> State Party IT Director
>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>> 
>>> On 2019-07-31 13:55, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>> Aye.  But the timing of this should not set precedent for future 
>>> email ballots.
>>> ---
>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>> 4th District Chair
>>> State Party IT Director
>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>> On 2019-07-31 13:09, Chris Wiest wrote:
>>>> The motion has been made and seconded.
>>>> By what I am presuming is unanimous consent (and any member may 
>>>> object
>>>> in which case I will suspend voting and open this to discussion as
>>>> required by the operating rules), I am ending discussion on this and
>>>> opening voting.
>>>> Email voting is opened (unless there is an objection to my ending
>>>> discussion early, in which case I will suspend further voting).
>>>> In the interest of timeliness, I will end voting at the earlier of:
>>>> (I) all members having voted; or (II) a majority of the entire
>>>> committee voting yes or no.
>>>> For the record, I vote aye.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Ken Moellman via Lpk-execomm 
>>>>> <lpk-execomm at lists.lpky.org> wrote:
>>>>> Second.
>>>>> We need to move VERY fast on this.  If we cannot get a vote on this 
>>>>> today then we need an emergency Exec call tonight, or alternately 
>>>>> the date will have to be pushed.  I think we almost have to do an 
>>>>> emergency Exec call at this point.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>> 4th District Chair
>>>>> State Party IT Director
>>>>> Libertarian Party of Kentucky
>>>>>> On 2019-07-31 12:37, randall.daniel--- via Lpk-execomm wrote:
>>>>>> I motion that we call a organizing convention for the sixth 
>>>>>> district
>>>>>> on Saturday August 31st, 1 pm, at the Lexington Public Library, 
>>>>>> North
>>>>>> side Branch.
>>>>>> We have the medium conference room from 1 pm until 3 pm.
>>>>>> Randall Daniel
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