August 2022 - Lpmo-Exec - Moellman Enterprises Email

Fwd: Promote John Hartwig on FB
by LaDonna Higgins 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

If you or your LP group has a facebook page, I encourage you to share the post I created at facebook.com/stlcolp for John Hartwig. It is a cheap and effective way to get his name out there. For those who have already done that, (all 7 of you) Thank you. [image: image.png] LaDonna Higgins, St. Louis county

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Re: [Exec] Legal MO 22 - Question #1
by Catherine Dreher 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Ron, Good question. As the MOLP, we need to ask ourselves, "Does the end justify the means?" Yes, we support legalizing recreational marijuana. That is not the question. The questions are: 1. Do we support using a Constitutional Amendment to create law rather than using our Republican system of government? 2. Do we favor limiting the amount of marijuana a person can purchase and have on them (with Amendment 3 it's 6 ounces)? 3. Do we favor government limiting the marketplace by using a lottery system that favors those whom already have a medicinal marijuana license to sell and by creating a cap on the number of dispensaries? That's just the tip of the iceberg as I'm sure Robert and others can include additional information as to why this is a bad way to go about legalizing recreational marijuana. And because it's a Constitutional Amendment, it can't be easily undone. True freedom means less government oversight regarding what we put into our bodies and less control of the free market. That's my two cents. Catherine On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 10:38 PM Ron Bream via Exec <exec(a)lists.lpmo.org> wrote: > All, > > To keep this dustup going. Why does it require 39 pages for Missouri's > amendment and South Dakota's only 4. SD's medical and recreational > amendments passed but the recreational one was nullified by their Supreme > Court (because it was to short [image: Emoji]). > > > https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/where-is-marijuana-legal-a… > > > Regards, > Ronald E. Bream > 1913 NW O'Brien Road > Lee's Summit, MO 64081-1673 > H: (816) 272-0178 > C: (816) 666-3123 > rebream(a)yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Exec mailing list > Exec(a)lists.lpmo.org > http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/exec >

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Legal Missouri 2022
by Ron Bream 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Exec & State Committees, In April, I published Jim Higgins email content on Legal MO 22 on the Show Me Freedom page of our website. At that time they were still collecting signatures and it was understood to be a contentious issue even then. While Lincoln County has taken a position, the issue has not been raised at the JCLP. Our focus for our upcoming Sept 3rd meeting will be solidifying JCLP membership for the upcoming 2022-2024 term. At this stage, I agree with Catherine that since Membership, Candidates and the MoLP seem to be all over the map on Amendment 3 that the MoLP should not take a position. However, I for one would like to hear the differing opinions on this issue and suggest we have an internal discussion at our upcoming Exec Committee meeting to help me understand the disagreements. JC Prairie Township Committeeman (PR-16A)JCLP Chair (Jackson County Libertarian Party)MoLP State Fair Coordinator MoLP Executive Committee District 5 Member MoLP State Committee District 8 Member Ron Bream 1913 NW O'Brien Road Lee's Summit, MO 64081-1673H: (816) 272-0178 C: (816) 666-3123 rebream(a)yahoo.com

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Re: [Exec] [Lpmo-info] Endorsing Legal MO 22
by Catherine Dreher 30 Aug '22

30 Aug '22

My final email about this, I was at the Lincoln County LP meeting when they made their vote against Amendment 3. I know their discussion and reasoning and you are incorrect. Thank you, Catherine Dreher Vice Chair MOLP On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 2:04 PM Dan Viets <danviets(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I believe the Lincoln County LP heard only from an opponent before they > voted. > I have no problem with a fair and balanced discussion. Have MO LP > candidates > come out against it? I would like to talk to them if so. There are a lot > of lies being > circulated about it. > There is still plenty of time. I think most people and certainly most LP > members > would expect the party to be involved in this issue. > > > > *Dan Viets, J.D.* > > 573-443-6866 | DanViets(a)gmail.com > > www.DanViets.com <http://www.danviets.com/> > 15 N. 10th St. Columbia, MO 65201 > Secretary of the National Board of Directors of NORML > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:50 PM Catherine Dreher <gr8cate(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We would only be hearing one side. Also, some of our MOLP candidates >> have already taken a public position on the Amendment. I'm not sure it >> would look favorably for those candidates if the MOLP takes an opposing >> position. My opinion is the state party should remain neutral at this >> point. >> >> In the future, if we want to take an official stance on a ballot measure, >> we should hear from both sides and come out early with it. >> >> Thank you, >> Catherine >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 1:45 PM Dan Viets <danviets(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> No discussion? That does not sound very democratic. >>> Other than the fact that some people may disagree, >>> what substantive objections, if any, do you have about >>> LM22? I believe it represents a major step toward a more >>> libertarian approach to marijuana use. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Dan Viets, J.D.* >>> >>> 573-443-6866 | DanViets(a)gmail.com >>> >>> www.DanViets.com <http://www.danviets.com/> >>> 15 N. 10th St. Columbia, MO 65201 >>> Secretary of the National Board of Directors of NORML >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:38 PM Catherine Dreher <gr8cate(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I would caution against an endorsement. I know the MO Lincoln Co. >>>> Libertarian Party voted to make a public stand against Amendment 3. >>>> Personally, I don't think it would be wise for us to endorse this as it has >>>> the potential of fracturing the state party and hurting our active >>>> candidates. So, I would say no to a discussion of endorsement. >>>> >>>> Catherine Dreher >>>> Vice Chair MOLP >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 1:27 PM Greg Tlapek via Exec <exec(a)lists.lpmo.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dan, >>>>> >>>>> Did someone get back to you about this? >>>>> >>>>> Greg Tlapek >>>>> 573-225-7187 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Dan Viets via Lpmo-info <lpmo-info(a)lists.lpmo.org> >>>>> To: info(a)lpmo.org >>>>> Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2022 10:00 am >>>>> Subject: [Lpmo-info] Endorsing Legal MO 22 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Friends, >>>>> I would like to address the MO LP Board about endorsing the Legal MO >>>>> '22 Initiative to legalize adult use, possession and cultivation of >>>>> cannabis. >>>>> >>>>> There have been a great many misleading and outright false arguments >>>>> made against it. I helped write it. >>>>> It is one of the best legalization proposals in any state so far. >>>>> >>>>> May I please speak to your Board? >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Dan Viets, J.D.* >>>>> 573-443-6866 | DanViets(a)gmail.com >>>>> www.DanViets.com <http://www.danviets.com/> >>>>> 15 N. 10th St. Columbia, MO 65201 >>>>> Secretary of the National Board of Directors of NORML >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lpmo-info mailing list >>>>> Lpmo-info(a)lists.lpmo.org >>>>> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpmo-info >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Exec mailing list >>>>> Exec(a)lists.lpmo.org >>>>> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/exec >>>>> >>>>

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Re: [Exec] [Lpmo-info] Endorsing Legal MO 22
by Greg Tlapek 30 Aug '22

30 Aug '22

Dan, Did someone get back to you about this? Greg Tlapek573-225-7187 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Viets via Lpmo-info <lpmo-info(a)lists.lpmo.org> To: info(a)lpmo.org Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2022 10:00 am Subject: [Lpmo-info] Endorsing Legal MO 22 Friends,I would like to address the MO LP Board about endorsing the Legal MO '22 Initiative to legalize adult use, possession and cultivation of cannabis. There have been a great many misleading and outright false arguments made against it. I helped write it.It is one of the best legalization proposals in any state so far. May I please speak to your Board?Thank you. | | | Dan Viets, J.D. | 573-443-6866 | DanViets(a)gmail.com | | www.DanViets.com | | 15 N. 10th St. Columbia, MO 65201 Secretary of the National Board of Directors of NORML | | -- Lpmo-info mailing list Lpmo-info(a)lists.lpmo.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpmo-info

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Re: [Exec] [Lpmo-info] Endorsing Legal MO 22
by Catherine Dreher 30 Aug '22

30 Aug '22

We would only be hearing one side. Also, some of our MOLP candidates have already taken a public position on the Amendment. I'm not sure it would look favorably for those candidates if the MOLP takes an opposing position. My opinion is the state party should remain neutral at this point. In the future, if we want to take an official stance on a ballot measure, we should hear from both sides and come out early with it. Thank you, Catherine On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 1:45 PM Dan Viets <danviets(a)gmail.com> wrote: > No discussion? That does not sound very democratic. > Other than the fact that some people may disagree, > what substantive objections, if any, do you have about > LM22? I believe it represents a major step toward a more > libertarian approach to marijuana use. > > > > *Dan Viets, J.D.* > > 573-443-6866 | DanViets(a)gmail.com > > www.DanViets.com <http://www.danviets.com/> > 15 N. 10th St. Columbia, MO 65201 > Secretary of the National Board of Directors of NORML > > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:38 PM Catherine Dreher <gr8cate(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I would caution against an endorsement. I know the MO Lincoln Co. >> Libertarian Party voted to make a public stand against Amendment 3. >> Personally, I don't think it would be wise for us to endorse this as it has >> the potential of fracturing the state party and hurting our active >> candidates. So, I would say no to a discussion of endorsement. >> >> Catherine Dreher >> Vice Chair MOLP >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022, 1:27 PM Greg Tlapek via Exec <exec(a)lists.lpmo.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Dan, >>> >>> Did someone get back to you about this? >>> >>> Greg Tlapek >>> 573-225-7187 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dan Viets via Lpmo-info <lpmo-info(a)lists.lpmo.org> >>> To: info(a)lpmo.org >>> Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2022 10:00 am >>> Subject: [Lpmo-info] Endorsing Legal MO 22 >>> >>> >>> Friends, >>> I would like to address the MO LP Board about endorsing the Legal MO '22 >>> Initiative to legalize adult use, possession and cultivation of cannabis. >>> >>> There have been a great many misleading and outright false arguments >>> made against it. I helped write it. >>> It is one of the best legalization proposals in any state so far. >>> >>> May I please speak to your Board? >>> Thank you. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Dan Viets, J.D.* >>> 573-443-6866 | DanViets(a)gmail.com >>> www.DanViets.com <http://www.danviets.com/> >>> 15 N. 10th St. Columbia, MO 65201 >>> Secretary of the National Board of Directors of NORML >>> >>> -- >>> Lpmo-info mailing list >>> Lpmo-info(a)lists.lpmo.org >>> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpmo-info >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Exec mailing list >>> Exec(a)lists.lpmo.org >>> http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/exec >>> >>

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Re: [Exec] MO Poll Results
by Jeff 30 Aug '22

30 Aug '22

John, The poll was conducted by Remington Research Group. Hopefully they continue to include Libertarian candidates in subsequent polling. Many election pollsters only mention duopoly candidates in their survey questions. Jeff On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 06:51:27 PM CDT, John A Hartwig, Jr. CPA <johnhcpa(a)aol.com> wrote: Thank you Jeff for the information. Who performed the poll? Sincerely yours,John A. Hartwig, Jr. CPA -------- Original message --------From: Jeff <jepherey(a)yahoo.com> Date: 8/29/22 5:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: MOLP Executive Committee <exec(a)lpmo.org>, MOLP State Committee <state-comm(a)lpmo.org> Cc: Jr John Hartwig <johnhcpa(a)aol.com> Subject: MO Poll Results >From a survey of a thousand likely voters across Missouri conducted last week:

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MO Poll Results
by Jeff 29 Aug '22

29 Aug '22

>From a survey of a thousand likely voters across Missouri conducted last week:

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Closed Primaries Returning to Missouri?
by Ron Bream 29 Aug '22

29 Aug '22

When researching open and closed State Primary Elections in the U.S., I came across this article from the St. Louis Post Dispatch. It is my understanding that Missouri switched from closed to open primaries some time ago. The argument for open primaries comes from the Open Primaries website. Unbeknownst to me there are four ways primaries can be handled of which Missouri's primary is open with nonpartisan registration. Section 11 of HB 1878 an election bill that was recently passed requires persons registering to vote must declare a political party affiliation from the established political parties or declare themselves unaffiliated come January 1, 2023. Section 25 indicates a move in the presidential preference primary to caucuses. See HB 1878T for more details. Does the MoLP have a position on open vs closed primaries? Partisan vs nonpartisan registration? JC Prairie Township Committeeman (PR-16A)JCLP Chair (Jackson County Libertarian Party)MoLP State Fair Coordinator MoLP Executive Committee District 5 Member MoLP State Committee District 8 Member Ron Bream 1913 NW O'Brien Road Lee's Summit, MO 64081-1673H: (816) 272-0178 C: (816) 666-3123 rebream(a)yahoo.com

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Something to Mull Over
by Ron Bream 28 Aug '22

28 Aug '22

Exec & State Committees and Candidates, An interesting article to consider; the differences between the freedom brand vs. the freedom philosophy.4 Differences between the Freedom Brand and the Freedom Philosophy | Patrick Carroll | | | | | | | | | | | 4 Differences between the Freedom Brand and the Freedom Philosophy | Pat... Patrick Carroll America is flooded with rhetoric about liberty. The freedom brand is everywhere. But while the brand is alive an... | | | JC Prairie Township Committeeman (PR-16A)JCLP Chair (Jackson County Libertarian Party)MoLP State Fair Coordinator MoLP Executive Committee District 5 Member MoLP State Committee District 8 Member Ron Bream 1913 NW O'Brien Road Lee's Summit, MO 64081-1673H: (816) 272-0178 C: (816) 666-3123 rebream(a)yahoo.com

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