All - I think it is important to start meeting at some time soon. I am looking for 2 other members to co-sponsor the holding of a meeting on August 24th at the Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort, from 1PM to 4:30PM, with a backup location being one of the hotels in Frankfort with meeting space (if Paul Sawyier fills up before reservations are made). Further, without officers in the committee, there's a question about where members would submit their proposals from outside of the committee. Once established, all records should be held by the committee secretary (ideally, IMO, on Google Drive) Working backwards through the timeline: March 2020 - state convention Mid-Jan/Mid-Feb 2020 - final Rules Comm report is due Late Nov and All December 2019 - Holidays and vacations It's now about mid-August. August 17th has multiple events happening the same day. Therefore, I think August 24th is the earliest reasonable time we can meet to start. That reasonably leaves Sept, Oct, and the first half of November to do this work, plus a "finalization" during the first two weeks of January. That's only 10 weeks of work, and 2 weeks of any cleanup. In my experience, rules proposals should be taken slowly and considered over time. The ram-rodding of ideas without consideration of the ramifications is what caused the problems post-2017, and while much has been cleaned up, issues still linger that need to be resolved (IMO, anyway). -- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky
Ken, I'm happy to meet on the 24th and eager to get this ball rolling. I apologize to all that I haven't been more engaged about it prior but I'm excited to start carving up and analyzing the rules as part of this committee. Randall Daniel On 2019-08-11 14:28, Ken Moellman via Lpk-rules wrote:
All -
I think it is important to start meeting at some time soon. I am looking for 2 other members to co-sponsor the holding of a meeting on August 24th at the Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort, from 1PM to 4:30PM, with a backup location being one of the hotels in Frankfort with meeting space (if Paul Sawyier fills up before reservations are made).
Further, without officers in the committee, there's a question about where members would submit their proposals from outside of the committee. Once established, all records should be held by the committee secretary (ideally, IMO, on Google Drive)
Working backwards through the timeline:
March 2020 - state convention Mid-Jan/Mid-Feb 2020 - final Rules Comm report is due Late Nov and All December 2019 - Holidays and vacations
It's now about mid-August.
August 17th has multiple events happening the same day.
Therefore, I think August 24th is the earliest reasonable time we can meet to start.
That reasonably leaves Sept, Oct, and the first half of November to do this work, plus a "finalization" during the first two weeks of January. That's only 10 weeks of work, and 2 weeks of any cleanup.
In my experience, rules proposals should be taken slowly and considered over time. The ram-rodding of ideas without consideration of the ramifications is what caused the problems post-2017, and while much has been cleaned up, issues still linger that need to be resolved (IMO, anyway).
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Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky _______________________________________________ Lpk-rules mailing list Lpk-rules@lists.lpky.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpk-rules
So because there is no committee chair, we basically have to do things as a committee with 3 or more people deciding to do something. I believe the responses from you (Michelle) and Randall would count as co-sponsoring, meaning that the three of us are calling for a meeting on August 24th at 1PM, at either Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort or an alternate location in Frankfort if the library isn't available. If this is not the case for either of you, please say so! Tomorrow, I'll call the library and get the room booked, or find an alternative location in Frankfort. --- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky On 2019-08-11 18:24, Michelle Randall via Lpk-rules wrote:
Ken,
This sounds great please let me know how I can help with getting the meeting set-up and anything else we need to do to make sure we do get meetings planned.
--I am not sure what co-sponser means (if we just need other people to second the date, potential locations, and times, if we need donations to the cost of a room, if we could help get it scheduled or something else <I'd be happy to help with any of the listed items besides something else because then I'd need to know what something else is first)
I like the idea of and think it's important we save all records on Google drive so they are easily accessible and transparent.
Thank you, Michelle Randall
On Aug 11, 2019 3:06 PM, "randall.daniel--- via Lpk-rules" <lpk-rules@lists.lpky.org> wrote:
Ken, I'm happy to meet on the 24th and eager to get this ball rolling. I apologize to all that I haven't been more engaged about it prior but I'm excited to start carving up and analyzing the rules as part of this committee.
Randall Daniel
On 2019-08-11 14:28, Ken Moellman via Lpk-rules wrote:
All -
I think it is important to start meeting at some time soon. I am looking for 2 other members to co-sponsor the holding of a meeting on August 24th at the Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort, from 1PM to 4:30PM, with a backup location being one of the hotels in Frankfort with meeting space (if Paul Sawyier fills up before reservations are made).
Further, without officers in the committee, there's a question about where members would submit their proposals from outside of the committee. Once established, all records should be held by the committee secretary (ideally, IMO, on Google Drive)
Working backwards through the timeline:
March 2020 - state convention Mid-Jan/Mid-Feb 2020 - final Rules Comm report is due Late Nov and All December 2019 - Holidays and vacations
It's now about mid-August.
August 17th has multiple events happening the same day.
Therefore, I think August 24th is the earliest reasonable time we can meet to start.
That reasonably leaves Sept, Oct, and the first half of November to do this work, plus a "finalization" during the first two weeks of January. That's only 10 weeks of work, and 2 weeks of any cleanup.
In my experience, rules proposals should be taken slowly and considered over time. The ram-rodding of ideas without consideration of the ramifications is what caused the problems post-2017, and while much has been cleaned up, issues still linger that need to be resolved (IMO, anyway).
--
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Okay, I have booked the Sower Board Room at the Paul Sawyier Public Library in Frankfort for 8/24. Includes a projector, whiteboard, and seating for about 10. --- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky On 2019-08-11 23:12, Michelle Randall wrote:
Let's do this!
On Aug 11, 2019 10:55 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman@lpky.org> wrote:
So because there is no committee chair, we basically have to do things as a committee with 3 or more people deciding to do something.
I believe the responses from you (Michelle) and Randall would count as co-sponsoring, meaning that the three of us are calling for a meeting on August 24th at 1PM, at either Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort or an alternate location in Frankfort if the library isn't available. If this is not the case for either of you, please say so!
Tomorrow, I'll call the library and get the room booked, or find an alternative location in Frankfort.
--- Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky
On 2019-08-11 18:24, Michelle Randall via Lpk-rules wrote:
Ken,
This sounds great please let me know how I can help with getting the meeting set-up and anything else we need to do to make sure we do get meetings planned.
--I am not sure what co-sponser means (if we just need other people to second the date, potential locations, and times, if we need donations to the cost of a room, if we could help get it scheduled or something else <I'd be happy to help with any of the listed items besides something else because then I'd need to know what something else is first)
I like the idea of and think it's important we save all records on Google drive so they are easily accessible and transparent.
Thank you, Michelle Randall
On Aug 11, 2019 3:06 PM, "randall.daniel--- via Lpk-rules" <lpk-rules@lists.lpky.org> wrote:
Ken, I'm happy to meet on the 24th and eager to get this ball rolling. I apologize to all that I haven't been more engaged about it prior but I'm excited to start carving up and analyzing the rules as part of this committee.
Randall Daniel
On 2019-08-11 14:28, Ken Moellman via Lpk-rules wrote:
All -
I think it is important to start meeting at some time soon. I am looking for 2 other members to co-sponsor the holding of a meeting on August 24th at the Paul Sawyier library in Frankfort, from 1PM to 4:30PM, with a backup location being one of the hotels in Frankfort with meeting space (if Paul Sawyier fills up before reservations are made).
Further, without officers in the committee, there's a question about where members would submit their proposals from outside of the committee. Once established, all records should be held by the committee secretary (ideally, IMO, on Google Drive)
Working backwards through the timeline:
March 2020 - state convention Mid-Jan/Mid-Feb 2020 - final Rules Comm report is due Late Nov and All December 2019 - Holidays and vacations
It's now about mid-August.
August 17th has multiple events happening the same day.
Therefore, I think August 24th is the earliest reasonable time we can meet to start.
That reasonably leaves Sept, Oct, and the first half of November to do this work, plus a "finalization" during the first two weeks of January. That's only 10 weeks of work, and 2 weeks of any cleanup.
In my experience, rules proposals should be taken slowly and considered over time. The ram-rodding of ideas without consideration of the ramifications is what caused the problems post-2017, and while much has been cleaned up, issues still linger that need to be resolved (IMO, anyway).
--
Ken C. Moellman, Jr. 4th District Chair State Party IT Director Libertarian Party of Kentucky _______________________________________________ Lpk-rules mailing list Lpk-rules@lists.lpky.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpk-rules
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