Hey all, look at your schedule you see we have a break out of region to vote for our LNC people. I am making reservations for Walk-ons, a restaurant left across the street for lunch at 12:30 . We can get a picture, talk about the officers and get some good food. Please share with our other delegates On Jun 28, 2018 9:15 AM, "Ryan Graham via Lpganationaldelegates2018" < lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote: I'm a heavy Sarwark lean, mostly because I think he's done a great job, and a lot of the negativity thrown his way is unwarranted. I see Josh as unproven, as he's relatively new to the party and has never even attended a convention. I'd love to see what he can do for the next 2 years and then circle back around. The one thing that has me a lean and not an outright #StickWithNick is the voices that I respect saying they are endorsing Josh. Gray, Sharpe, and some others via personal conversation have left me needing more information. Jenn Gray has been a wonderful voice in the libertarian movement as a whole. Her message of positivity and activism is exactly what we need. Her "quitting" seems a little weird now as she is still going to help candidates, and she is still apparently going to participate in party functions.... Not sure what quitting means, but I'm not going to criticize because, again, we need 100 more like her. She makes the party better by being present. --- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Vice Chairman, Libertarian Party of Georgia On 2018-06-28 09:08, John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 wrote: She's not anti Sarwark. She's still working on his campaign for mayor. "They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby." Jen Gray hasn't been a candidate for anything, so I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. She has worked with very successful LP candidates, notably with Sharpe who has quite a coalition, and less closely with Johnson. I wouldn't call it a "fit" when the person is still planning to support LP candidates, especially when "support" really means something significant as it does with her. But what happened in her home state (ie McCormick basically forced to drop out of the gubernatorial race) probably does deserve a fit or two being thrown, though. On June 28, 2018 8:59:22 AM EDT, Aaron Gilmer <aaron.gilmer@gmail.com> wrote:
I am and always have been a Nick Starwark fan (this will be my 3rd convention to vote for him). Herding cats isn't easy and he has done an excellent job of speaking to the media and keeping the cats somewhat organized. He is careful to support his team while not getting involved in the mistakes of others (ie, he doesn't attack members of the party, he expects them to clean up their own mess). Plus he is an attorney and we desperately need more of them to be effective.
As far as Gray or anyone else throwing a fit. That happens every convention cycle and we are supposed to get something out of their departure. But in reality all of these people have a core theme. They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby. Then they wonder why their speeches don't gain traction like it does in the republican or democratic parties. But the differences of the LP to Dem/Rep is massive so you can't use their business model for campaigning or swaying opinion.
Anyway, my 2-cents.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:18 AM John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 <lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
I am still not 100% decided on the chair race. I know not all of you see things the way I do, but for whatever it's worth this was the most powerful argument I've heard yet.
http://heyjenngray.com/contentious-race-chairman-libertarian-national-commit... /
I'm also quite saddened to learn Gray has left the party. We don't have a lot of dedicated marketing & fundraising experts like her. She doesn't get too specific here as to why, but I know she wasn't happy to be incorrectly accused of supporting a pedophile. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity._______________________________________________ Lpganationaldelegates2018 mailing list Lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpganationaldelegates2018
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I’m out with my girlfriends. Sorry to miss this. I’ll see y’all later. Stephanie Aylworth
On Jul 1, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Nathan Wilson via Lpganationaldelegates2018 <lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
Hey all, look at your schedule you see we have a break out of region to vote for our LNC people. I am making reservations for Walk-ons, a restaurant left across the street for lunch at 12:30 . We can get a picture, talk about the officers and get some good food. Please share with our other delegates
On Jun 28, 2018 9:15 AM, "Ryan Graham via Lpganationaldelegates2018" <lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote: I'm a heavy Sarwark lean, mostly because I think he's done a great job, and a lot of the negativity thrown his way is unwarranted. I see Josh as unproven, as he's relatively new to the party and has never even attended a convention. I'd love to see what he can do for the next 2 years and then circle back around.
The one thing that has me a lean and not an outright #StickWithNick is the voices that I respect saying they are endorsing Josh. Gray, Sharpe, and some others via personal conversation have left me needing more information. Jenn Gray has been a wonderful voice in the libertarian movement as a whole. Her message of positivity and activism is exactly what we need.
Her "quitting" seems a little weird now as she is still going to help candidates, and she is still apparently going to participate in party functions.... Not sure what quitting means, but I'm not going to criticize because, again, we need 100 more like her. She makes the party better by being present.
--- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Vice Chairman, Libertarian Party of Georgia
On 2018-06-28 09:08, John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 wrote:
She's not anti Sarwark. She's still working on his campaign for mayor.
"They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby."
Jen Gray hasn't been a candidate for anything, so I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. She has worked with very successful LP candidates, notably with Sharpe who has quite a coalition, and less closely with Johnson.
I wouldn't call it a "fit" when the person is still planning to support LP candidates, especially when "support" really means something significant as it does with her. But what happened in her home state (ie McCormick basically forced to drop out of the gubernatorial race) probably does deserve a fit or two being thrown, though.
On June 28, 2018 8:59:22 AM EDT, Aaron Gilmer <aaron.gilmer@gmail.com> wrote: I am and always have been a Nick Starwark fan (this will be my 3rd convention to vote for him). Herding cats isn't easy and he has done an excellent job of speaking to the media and keeping the cats somewhat organized. He is careful to support his team while not getting involved in the mistakes of others (ie, he doesn't attack members of the party, he expects them to clean up their own mess). Plus he is an attorney and we desperately need more of them to be effective.
As far as Gray or anyone else throwing a fit. That happens every convention cycle and we are supposed to get something out of their departure. But in reality all of these people have a core theme. They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby. Then they wonder why their speeches don't gain traction like it does in the republican or democratic parties. But the differences of the LP to Dem/Rep is massive so you can't use their business model for campaigning or swaying opinion.
Anyway, my 2-cents.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:18 AM John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 <lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote: I am still not 100% decided on the chair race. I know not all of you see things the way I do, but for whatever it's worth this was the most powerful argument I've heard yet.
http://heyjenngray.com/contentious-race-chairman-libertarian-national-commit...
I'm also quite saddened to learn Gray has left the party. We don't have a lot of dedicated marketing & fundraising experts like her. She doesn't get too specific here as to why, but I know she wasn't happy to be incorrectly accused of supporting a pedophile. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity._______________________________________________ Lpganationaldelegates2018 mailing list Lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpganationaldelegates2018
-- Aaron Gilmer - aaron.gilmer@gmail.com Cell: (646) 269-0465 http://www.remotelinux.com
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Good morning. Elections for chair will start at 9:30 this morning. Please be on the floor. Ted Metz On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 10:31 AM Nathan Wilson via Lpganationaldelegates2018 < lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
Hey all, look at your schedule you see we have a break out of region to vote for our LNC people. I am making reservations for Walk-ons, a restaurant left across the street for lunch at 12:30 . We can get a picture, talk about the officers and get some good food. Please share with our other delegates
On Jun 28, 2018 9:15 AM, "Ryan Graham via Lpganationaldelegates2018" < lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
I'm a heavy Sarwark lean, mostly because I think he's done a great job, and a lot of the negativity thrown his way is unwarranted. I see Josh as unproven, as he's relatively new to the party and has never even attended a convention. I'd love to see what he can do for the next 2 years and then circle back around.
The one thing that has me a lean and not an outright #StickWithNick is the voices that I respect saying they are endorsing Josh. Gray, Sharpe, and some others via personal conversation have left me needing more information. Jenn Gray has been a wonderful voice in the libertarian movement as a whole. Her message of positivity and activism is exactly what we need.
Her "quitting" seems a little weird now as she is still going to help candidates, and she is still apparently going to participate in party functions.... Not sure what quitting means, but I'm not going to criticize because, again, we need 100 more like her. She makes the party better by being present. --- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Vice Chairman, Libertarian Party of Georgia
On 2018-06-28 09:08, John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 wrote:
She's not anti Sarwark. She's still working on his campaign for mayor.
"They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby."
Jen Gray hasn't been a candidate for anything, so I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. She has worked with very successful LP candidates, notably with Sharpe who has quite a coalition, and less closely with Johnson.
I wouldn't call it a "fit" when the person is still planning to support LP candidates, especially when "support" really means something significant as it does with her. But what happened in her home state (ie McCormick basically forced to drop out of the gubernatorial race) probably does deserve a fit or two being thrown, though.
On June 28, 2018 8:59:22 AM EDT, Aaron Gilmer <aaron.gilmer@gmail.com> wrote:
I am and always have been a Nick Starwark fan (this will be my 3rd convention to vote for him). Herding cats isn't easy and he has done an excellent job of speaking to the media and keeping the cats somewhat organized. He is careful to support his team while not getting involved in the mistakes of others (ie, he doesn't attack members of the party, he expects them to clean up their own mess). Plus he is an attorney and we desperately need more of them to be effective.
As far as Gray or anyone else throwing a fit. That happens every convention cycle and we are supposed to get something out of their departure. But in reality all of these people have a core theme. They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby. Then they wonder why their speeches don't gain traction like it does in the republican or democratic parties. But the differences of the LP to Dem/Rep is massive so you can't use their business model for campaigning or swaying opinion.
Anyway, my 2-cents.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:18 AM John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 <lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
I am still not 100% decided on the chair race. I know not all of you see things the way I do, but for whatever it's worth this was the most powerful argument I've heard yet.
http://heyjenngray.com/contentious-race-chairman-libertarian-national-commit... /
I'm also quite saddened to learn Gray has left the party. We don't have a lot of dedicated marketing & fundraising experts like her. She doesn't get too specific here as to why, but I know she wasn't happy to be incorrectly accused of supporting a pedophile. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity._______________________________________________ Lpganationaldelegates2018 mailing list Lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpganationaldelegates2018
-- Aaron Gilmer - aaron.gilmer@gmail.com Cell: (646) 269-0465 http://www.remotelinux.com
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Fyi - elections should start at 1:30 On Mon, Jul 2, 2018, 11:43 AM <ryan.graham@lpgeorgia.com> wrote:
They are resuming the platform committee until noon.
On Jul 2, 2018 11:29 AM, ryan.graham@lpgeorgia.com wrote:
Elections for LNC will be after lunch. Call to order is 1:30.
On Jul 2, 2018 8:41 AM, Ted Metz <tedmetz@gmail.com> wrote:
Good morning. Elections for chair will start at 9:30 this morning. Please be on the floor.
Ted Metz
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 10:31 AM Nathan Wilson via Lpganationaldelegates2018 < lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
Hey all, look at your schedule you see we have a break out of region to vote for our LNC people. I am making reservations for Walk-ons, a restaurant left across the street for lunch at 12:30 . We can get a picture, talk about the officers and get some good food. Please share with our other delegates
On Jun 28, 2018 9:15 AM, "Ryan Graham via Lpganationaldelegates2018" < lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
I'm a heavy Sarwark lean, mostly because I think he's done a great job, and a lot of the negativity thrown his way is unwarranted. I see Josh as unproven, as he's relatively new to the party and has never even attended a convention. I'd love to see what he can do for the next 2 years and then circle back around.
The one thing that has me a lean and not an outright #StickWithNick is the voices that I respect saying they are endorsing Josh. Gray, Sharpe, and some others via personal conversation have left me needing more information. Jenn Gray has been a wonderful voice in the libertarian movement as a whole. Her message of positivity and activism is exactly what we need.
Her "quitting" seems a little weird now as she is still going to help candidates, and she is still apparently going to participate in party functions.... Not sure what quitting means, but I'm not going to criticize because, again, we need 100 more like her. She makes the party better by being present. --- In Liberty, Ryan Graham Vice Chairman, Libertarian Party of Georgia
On 2018-06-28 09:08, John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 wrote:
She's not anti Sarwark. She's still working on his campaign for mayor.
"They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby."
Jen Gray hasn't been a candidate for anything, so I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. She has worked with very successful LP candidates, notably with Sharpe who has quite a coalition, and less closely with Johnson.
I wouldn't call it a "fit" when the person is still planning to support LP candidates, especially when "support" really means something significant as it does with her. But what happened in her home state (ie McCormick basically forced to drop out of the gubernatorial race) probably does deserve a fit or two being thrown, though.
On June 28, 2018 8:59:22 AM EDT, Aaron Gilmer <aaron.gilmer@gmail.com> wrote:
I am and always have been a Nick Starwark fan (this will be my 3rd convention to vote for him). Herding cats isn't easy and he has done an excellent job of speaking to the media and keeping the cats somewhat organized. He is careful to support his team while not getting involved in the mistakes of others (ie, he doesn't attack members of the party, he expects them to clean up their own mess). Plus he is an attorney and we desperately need more of them to be effective.
As far as Gray or anyone else throwing a fit. That happens every convention cycle and we are supposed to get something out of their departure. But in reality all of these people have a core theme. They failed to build up a coalition or consensus or lobby. Then they wonder why their speeches don't gain traction like it does in the republican or democratic parties. But the differences of the LP to Dem/Rep is massive so you can't use their business model for campaigning or swaying opinion.
Anyway, my 2-cents.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 8:18 AM John Turpish via Lpganationaldelegates2018 <lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org> wrote:
I am still not 100% decided on the chair race. I know not all of you see things the way I do, but for whatever it's worth this was the most powerful argument I've heard yet.
http://heyjenngray.com/contentious-race-chairman-libertarian-national-commit... /
I'm also quite saddened to learn Gray has left the party. We don't have a lot of dedicated marketing & fundraising experts like her. She doesn't get too specific here as to why, but I know she wasn't happy to be incorrectly accused of supporting a pedophile. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity._______________________________________________ Lpganationaldelegates2018 mailing list Lpganationaldelegates2018@lpmail.lp.org http://lpmail.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpganationaldelegates2018
-- Aaron Gilmer - aaron.gilmer@gmail.com Cell: (646) 269-0465 http://www.remotelinux.com
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