Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it.. Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote: I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database? -Alicia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
Hi Audrey, Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero. Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money! But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up at http://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request. I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars... -Alicia On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi Audrey,
Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero.
Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money!
But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up at http://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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Thanks, Alicia. Without being shy about letting correspondents know when I disagree, I try to respond diplomatically to everyone who writes to me as an LNC member – and if they write to more than two or three LNC members, post my responses here as well as to the writer so that LNC members who weren't copied on their "cc" list and folks reading on the reflector list can see what kind of input we're receiving. Part of the way in which power "corrupts" is that it tends to make those who possess it arrogant. Thus I see maintaining humility as an important practice for libertarians in positions of power (whether formal positions like public office or internal party office, or more informal types of power). In traditional stories, wise and compassionate rulers are often portrayed going out of their palaces disguised as ordinary people in order to mingle with their subjects on an equal footing and see things from their points of view in order to learn what's really going on. Not that LNC members are anything like kings of course, but making a practice of politely responding to all grassroots contacts and inquiries seems like a small way to take a spiritually somewhat similar approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most libertarian member of Congress, Justin Amash, is also the only one I've ever heard of explaining his votes on each piece of legislation to members of the public. Ideally I think governments seeking to operate in accord with libertarian principles on a sustainable basis would do well to also include some structural safeguards designed to keep leaders humble. Government chambers being designed with the most comfortable seating reserved for members of the public rather than the officeholders, requiring officeholders to commute using public transit, live in modest public housing, this sort of thing. The tradition of the Pope washing the feet of parishioners may be a little weird for modern times, but in spirit it's right on the mark. Seeing members of Congress required to spend a day each year as volunteers helping members of the public fill out their tax forms would certainly be a gratifying exercise. :-) I also like the idea, which has been seriously proposed, of requiring politicians to wear uniforms emblazoned with the names of their biggest campaign contributors, kind of like athletes wear jerseys emblazoned with the names and logos of their corporate sponsors. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request.
I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars...
-Alicia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi Audrey,
Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero.
Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money!
But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up at http://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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Another positive step would be the dispensing of the use of political titles when introducing or speaking directly to elected politicians -- "The honorable", "Mr. President", etc. No one calls Sergey Brin "Mr. President". _________________________ Sean O'Toole sean@kingfieldcapital.com (816) 739-2737 On 2 Oct 2016, at 7:13, Starchild wrote:
Thanks, Alicia. Without being shy about letting correspondents know when I disagree, I try to respond diplomatically to everyone who writes to me as an LNC member – and if they write to more than two or three LNC members, post my responses here as well as to the writer so that LNC members who weren't copied on their "cc" list and folks reading on the reflector list can see what kind of input we're receiving.
Part of the way in which power "corrupts" is that it tends to make those who possess it arrogant. Thus I see maintaining humility as an important practice for libertarians in positions of power (whether formal positions like public office or internal party office, or more informal types of power). In traditional stories, wise and compassionate rulers are often portrayed going out of their palaces disguised as ordinary people in order to mingle with their subjects on an equal footing and see things from their points of view in order to learn what's really going on. Not that LNC members are anything like kings of course, but making a practice of politely responding to all grassroots contacts and inquiries seems like a small way to take a spiritually somewhat similar approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most libertarian member of Congress, Justin Amash, is also the only one I've ever heard of explaining his votes on each piece of legislation to members of the public.
Ideally I think governments seeking to operate in accord with libertarian principles on a sustainable basis would do well to also include some structural safeguards designed to keep leaders humble. Government chambers being designed with the most comfortable seating reserved for members of the public rather than the officeholders, requiring officeholders to commute using public transit, live in modest public housing, this sort of thing. The tradition of the Pope washing the feet of parishioners may be a little weird for modern times, but in spirit it's right on the mark. Seeing members of Congress required to spend a day each year as volunteers helping members of the public fill out their tax forms would certainly be a gratifying exercise. :-) I also like the idea, which has been seriously proposed, of requiring politicians to wear uniforms emblazoned with the names of their biggest campaign contributors, kind of like athletes wear jerseys emblazoned with the names and logos of their corporate sponsors.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request.
I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars...
-Alicia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi Audrey,
Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero.
Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money!
But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up at http://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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Completely agreed, Sean. And the titles often stick with them even after they've left office! Not sure whether that custom was instigated mainly by the politicians themselves or by people trying to curry favor with them, but it's a pernicious practice. As is naming things for politicians while they are still living and holding office. I'd love to see a moratorium on commemorating politicians, but if their former colleagues just can't help themselves, they should at least wait until after the individual is dead. There's an old joke about how you know a country's going downhill when they start putting dead politicians' images on the money, but when they start putting living politicians' images on the money it's time to run for the hills! Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Oct 2, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Sean O'Toole wrote:
Another positive step would be the dispensing of the use of political titles when introducing or speaking directly to elected politicians -- "The honorable", "Mr. President", etc. No one calls Sergey Brin "Mr. President".
Sean O'Toole sean@kingfieldcapital.com (816) 739-2737
On 2 Oct 2016, at 7:13, Starchild wrote:
Thanks, Alicia. Without being shy about letting correspondents know when I disagree, I try to respond diplomatically to everyone who writes to me as an LNC member – and if they write to more than two or three LNC members, post my responses here as well as to the writer so that LNC members who weren't copied on their "cc" list and folks reading on the reflector list can see what kind of input we're receiving.
Part of the way in which power "corrupts" is that it tends to make those who possess it arrogant. Thus I see maintaining humility as an important practice for libertarians in positions of power (whether formal positions like public office or internal party office, or more informal types of power). In traditional stories, wise and compassionate rulers are often portrayed going out of their palaces disguised as ordinary people in order to mingle with their subjects on an equal footing and see things from their points of view in order to learn what's really going on. Not that LNC members are anything like kings of course, but making a practice of politely responding to all grassroots contacts and inquiries seems like a small way to take a spiritually somewhat similar approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most libertarian member of Congress, Justin Amash, is also the only one I've ever heard of explaining his votes on each piece of legislation to members of the public.
Ideally I think governments seeking to operate in accord with libertarian principles on a sustainable basis would do well to also include some structural safeguards designed to keep leaders humble. Government chambers being designed with the most comfortable seating reserved for members of the public rather than the officeholders, requiring officeholders to commute using public transit, live in modest public housing, this sort of thing. The tradition of the Pope washing the feet of parishioners may be a little weird for modern times, but in spirit it's right on the mark. Seeing members of Congress required to spend a day each year as volunteers helping members of the public fill out their tax forms would certainly be a gratifying exercise. :-) I also like the idea, which has been seriously proposed, of requiring politicians to wear uniforms emblazoned with the names of their biggest campaign contributors, kind of like athletes wear jerseys emblazoned with the names and logos of their corporate sponsors.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request.
I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars...
-Alicia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi Audrey,
Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero.
Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money!
But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up at http://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
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The dialog between Starchild, Alicia and other LNC members, prompted by Audrey Addison's "audacious" request, represents Libertarianism at its best. I stand in awe of Starchild's advocacy of leader humility and his innovative proposal for structural safeguards to keep leaders humble. Starchild's "kings in disguise mixing with the public" and "washing of the feet" analogies remind us that leadership humility does in fact strike a chord with the body politic as demonstrated by Ben Carson's appeal despite his inconsistent platform. Gene Siadek, a Nebraska Libertarian hero of mine, is another example of Starchild's notion of leader humility and innovation. Gene is treasurer of the LPNE and a former chair who held the LPNE together for over 20 years through thick and thin. Rather than tooting his own horn or getting on the soapbox, Gene sets an inspirational example for future Libertarian leaders by mixing with the public, asking leading questions and finding common ground to build inclusive relationships and plant the seed for future Freedom activism. It takes courage and intellectual fortitude to stand up for one's principles of leader humility, party transparency and innovative bottom-up freedom initiatives in the face of the exciting rush to achieve immediate top-down legislative Libertarian success. Starchild embodies that courage and intellectual fortitude. If there were a Libertarian equivalent of a "Gandhi" award for leader humility or a Nobel Prize for thinking outside the box, Starchild would be deserving as exemplified by the fact that he would never seek such an award. Libertarianism: Leader Humility - Transparancy - Principle Before Party Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE ~David Pratt Demarest Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI) Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus Cell: 402-981-6469 Home: 402-493-0873 Office: 402-222-7207 From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Starchild Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 7:13 AM To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Subject: [Lnc-business] Avoiding the arrogance of power Thanks, Alicia. Without being shy about letting correspondents know when I disagree, I try to respond diplomatically to everyone who writes to me as an LNC member - and if they write to more than two or three LNC members, post my responses here as well as to the writer so that LNC members who weren't copied on their "cc" list and folks reading on the reflector list can see what kind of input we're receiving. Part of the way in which power "corrupts" is that it tends to make those who possess it arrogant. Thus I see maintaining humility as an important practice for libertarians in positions of power (whether formal positions like public office or internal party office, or more informal types of power). In traditional stories, wise and compassionate rulers are often portrayed going out of their palaces disguised as ordinary people in order to mingle with their subjects on an equal footing and see things from their points of view in order to learn what's really going on. Not that LNC members are anything like kings of course, but making a practice of politely responding to all grassroots contacts and inquiries seems like a small way to take a spiritually somewhat similar approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most libertarian member of Congress, Justin Amash, is also the only one I've ever heard of explaining his votes on each piece of legislation to members of the public. Ideally I think governments seeking to operate in accord with libertarian principles on a sustainable basis would do well to also include some structural safeguards designed to keep leaders humble. Government chambers being designed with the most comfortable seating reserved for members of the public rather than the officeholders, requiring officeholders to commute using public transit, live in modest public housing, this sort of thing. The tradition of the Pope washing the feet of parishioners may be a little weird for modern times, but in spirit it's right on the mark. Seeing members of Congress required to spend a day each year as volunteers helping members of the public fill out their tax forms would certainly be a gratifying exercise. :-) I also like the idea, which has been seriously proposed, of requiring politicians to wear uniforms emblazoned with the names of their biggest campaign contributors, kind of like athletes wear jerseys emblazoned with the names and logos of their corporate sponsors. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote: I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request. I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars... -Alicia On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net <mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net> > wrote: Hi Audrey, Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero. Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money! But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up at http://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com <mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com> > wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org <mailto:secretary@lp.org> > wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com <mailto:healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org <mailto:chair@lp.org> Cc: Treasurer@lp.org <mailto:Treasurer@lp.org> , Starchild@lp.org <mailto:Starchild@lp.org> , Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org <mailto:Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org> , Sam.goldstein@lp.org <mailto:Sam.goldstein@lp.org> , Joshua.kstz@lp.org <mailto:Joshua.kstz@lp.org> , Secretary@lp.org <mailto:Secretary@lp.org> , Vicechair@lp.org <mailto:Vicechair@lp.org>
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
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David, I am moved and grateful for your kind words of respect, as I am for everyone who appreciates the values I try to bring to my Libertarian activism and represent on the LNC. It's human to feel good when we're recognized or appreciated or seen as wise, brave, etc., and I'm no exception. Nevertheless while this is gratifying on an individual level, when I try to step back and think objectively about what's good for our party and the cause for which it stands, it seems to me that the LP is healthier as an organization when people in leadership roles are trusted less and critically scrutinized more, because vigilant skepticism is, imho, the proper libertarian attitude toward leaders! We don't want holding power to be too comfortable or rewarding, because it's naturally addictive enough as it is! The more thankless the job, the more assurance we can all have that those who seek it will be motivated by their passion for advancing freedom, and not by status, material benefit, or love of wielding power. Thus the safest time to heap praise on us for our leadership is when we are dead. :-) Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE "Don't follow leaders, watch your parking meters." – Bob Dylan On Oct 2, 2016, at 8:11 AM, David Demarest wrote:
The dialog between Starchild, Alicia and other LNC members, prompted by Audrey Addison’s “audacious” request, represents Libertarianism at its best. I stand in awe of Starchild’s advocacy of leader humility and his innovative proposal for structural safeguards to keep leaders humble.
Starchild’s “kings in disguise mixing with the public” and “washing of the feet” analogies remind us that leadership humility does in fact strike a chord with the body politic as demonstrated by Ben Carson’s appeal despite his inconsistent platform. Gene Siadek, a Nebraska Libertarian hero of mine, is another example of Starchild’s notion of leader humility and innovation. Gene is treasurer of the LPNE and a former chair who held the LPNE together for over 20 years through thick and thin. Rather than tooting his own horn or getting on the soapbox, Gene sets an inspirational example for future Libertarian leaders by mixing with the public, asking leading questions and finding common ground to build inclusive relationships and plant the seed for future Freedom activism.
It takes courage and intellectual fortitude to stand up for one’s principles of leader humility, party transparency and innovative bottom-up freedom initiatives in the face of the exciting rush to achieve immediate top-down legislative Libertarian success. Starchild embodies that courage and intellectual fortitude. If there were a Libertarian equivalent of a “Gandhi” award for leader humility or a Nobel Prize for thinking outside the box, Starchild would be deserving as exemplified by the fact that he would never seek such an award.
Libertarianism: Leader Humility – Transparancy – Principle Before Party
Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE
~David Pratt Demarest Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI) Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus Cell: 402-981-6469 Home: 402-493-0873 Office: 402-222-7207
From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Starchild Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 7:13 AM To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Subject: [Lnc-business] Avoiding the arrogance of power
Thanks, Alicia. Without being shy about letting correspondents know when I disagree, I try to respond diplomatically to everyone who writes to me as an LNC member – and if they write to more than two or three LNC members, post my responses here as well as to the writer so that LNC members who weren't copied on their "cc" list and folks reading on the reflector list can see what kind of input we're receiving.
Part of the way in which power "corrupts" is that it tends to make those who possess it arrogant. Thus I see maintaining humility as an important practice for libertarians in positions of power (whether formal positions like public office or internal party office, or more informal types of power). In traditional stories, wise and compassionate rulers are often portrayed going out of their palaces disguised as ordinary people in order to mingle with their subjects on an equal footing and see things from their points of view in order to learn what's really going on. Not that LNC members are anything like kings of course, but making a practice of politely responding to all grassroots contacts and inquiries seems like a small way to take a spiritually somewhat similar approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most libertarian member of Congress, Justin Amash, is also the only one I've ever heard of explaining his votes on each piece of legislation to members of the public.
Ideally I think governments seeking to operate in accord with libertarian principles on a sustainable basis would do well to also include some structural safeguards designed to keep leaders humble. Government chambers being designed with the most comfortable seating reserved for members of the public rather than the officeholders, requiring officeholders to commute using public transit, live in modest public housing, this sort of thing. The tradition of the Pope washing the feet of parishioners may be a little weird for modern times, but in spirit it's right on the mark. Seeing members of Congress required to spend a day each year as volunteers helping members of the public fill out their tax forms would certainly be a gratifying exercise. :-) I also like the idea, which has been seriously proposed, of requiring politicians to wear uniforms emblazoned with the names of their biggest campaign contributors, kind of like athletes wear jerseys emblazoned with the names and logos of their corporate sponsors.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request.
I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars...
-Alicia
On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote: Hi Audrey,
Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero.
Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money!
But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up athttp://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules.
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE
On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org Cc: Treasurer@lp.org, Starchild@lp.org, Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org, Sam.goldstein@lp.org, Joshua.kstz@lp.org, Secretary@lp.org, Vicechair@lp.org
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
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Starchild, I agree with your reasoning and your sentiment. The dangers of leadership increase when the goal of personal glory supersedes the goal of attaining freedom for all. The use of force in the context of compulsory government fosters two deep-seated perversions of rational self-interest, the desire to succumb to the siren song of having authority over others and the urge to get a free lunch at the expense of others. This choice between good and evil is constantly paraded in front of us in speeches from our leaders, public school curricula and textbooks, status-quo traditional media and commercial advertising. However, the good news is that by removing the force-enabling compulsory element from governance, the evil incentives of force-dependent government are reversed. Then, as you so eloquently put it, the sole incentive to accept the mantle of leadership is to make the world a freer place for everyone. Praising leadership posthumously might be the safest as you suggest. However, I prefer to incentivize heroic moral leadership by recognizing and honoring their courage and wisdom while they are alive. Personal gratification for doing the right thing is both appropriate and in keeping with our capacity for rational self-interest, our genetically-inherent primary means of survival. Good job, Starchild, for consistently doing the right thing while you provide the moral and intellectual leadership that we truly need to achieve our goal of freedom for all. Thoughts? Libertarianism: Leader Humility - Transparency - Principle Before Party Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE ~David Pratt Demarest Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI) Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Starchild Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 3:34 AM To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Avoiding the arrogance of power David, I am moved and grateful for your kind words of respect, as I am for everyone who appreciates the values I try to bring to my Libertarian activism and represent on the LNC. It's human to feel good when we're recognized or appreciated or seen as wise, brave, etc., and I'm no exception. Nevertheless while this is gratifying on an individual level, when I try to step back and think objectively about what's good for our party and the cause for which it stands, it seems to me that the LP is healthier as an organization when people in leadership roles are trusted less and critically scrutinized more, because vigilant skepticism is, imho, the proper libertarian attitude toward leaders! We don't want holding power to be too comfortable or rewarding, because it's naturally addictive enough as it is! The more thankless the job, the more assurance we can all have that those who seek it will be motivated by their passion for advancing freedom, and not by status, material benefit, or love of wielding power. Thus the safest time to heap praise on us for our leadership is when we are dead. :-) Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE "Don't follow leaders, watch your parking meters." - Bob Dylan On Oct 2, 2016, at 8:11 AM, David Demarest wrote: The dialog between Starchild, Alicia and other LNC members, prompted by Audrey Addison's "audacious" request, represents Libertarianism at its best. I stand in awe of Starchild's advocacy of leader humility and his innovative proposal for structural safeguards to keep leaders humble. Starchild's "kings in disguise mixing with the public" and "washing of the feet" analogies remind us that leadership humility does in fact strike a chord with the body politic as demonstrated by Ben Carson's appeal despite his inconsistent platform. Gene Siadek, a Nebraska Libertarian hero of mine, is another example of Starchild's notion of leader humility and innovation. Gene is treasurer of the LPNE and a former chair who held the LPNE together for over 20 years through thick and thin. Rather than tooting his own horn or getting on the soapbox, Gene sets an inspirational example for future Libertarian leaders by mixing with the public, asking leading questions and finding common ground to build inclusive relationships and plant the seed for future Freedom activism. It takes courage and intellectual fortitude to stand up for one's principles of leader humility, party transparency and innovative bottom-up freedom initiatives in the face of the exciting rush to achieve immediate top-down legislative Libertarian success. Starchild embodies that courage and intellectual fortitude. If there were a Libertarian equivalent of a "Gandhi" award for leader humility or a Nobel Prize for thinking outside the box, Starchild would be deserving as exemplified by the fact that he would never seek such an award. Libertarianism: Leader Humility - Transparancy - Principle Before Party Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE ~David Pratt Demarest Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI) Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus Cell: 402-981-6469 Home: 402-493-0873 Office: 402-222-7207 From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Starchild Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 7:13 AM To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Subject: [Lnc-business] Avoiding the arrogance of power Thanks, Alicia. Without being shy about letting correspondents know when I disagree, I try to respond diplomatically to everyone who writes to me as an LNC member - and if they write to more than two or three LNC members, post my responses here as well as to the writer so that LNC members who weren't copied on their "cc" list and folks reading on the reflector list can see what kind of input we're receiving. Part of the way in which power "corrupts" is that it tends to make those who possess it arrogant. Thus I see maintaining humility as an important practice for libertarians in positions of power (whether formal positions like public office or internal party office, or more informal types of power). In traditional stories, wise and compassionate rulers are often portrayed going out of their palaces disguised as ordinary people in order to mingle with their subjects on an equal footing and see things from their points of view in order to learn what's really going on. Not that LNC members are anything like kings of course, but making a practice of politely responding to all grassroots contacts and inquiries seems like a small way to take a spiritually somewhat similar approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that the most libertarian member of Congress, Justin Amash, is also the only one I've ever heard of explaining his votes on each piece of legislation to members of the public. Ideally I think governments seeking to operate in accord with libertarian principles on a sustainable basis would do well to also include some structural safeguards designed to keep leaders humble. Government chambers being designed with the most comfortable seating reserved for members of the public rather than the officeholders, requiring officeholders to commute using public transit, live in modest public housing, this sort of thing. The tradition of the Pope washing the feet of parishioners may be a little weird for modern times, but in spirit it's right on the mark. Seeing members of Congress required to spend a day each year as volunteers helping members of the public fill out their tax forms would certainly be a gratifying exercise. :-) I also like the idea, which has been seriously proposed, of requiring politicians to wear uniforms emblazoned with the names of their biggest campaign contributors, kind of like athletes wear jerseys emblazoned with the names and logos of their corporate sponsors. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Oct 1, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote: I'm just writing to compliment Starchild on his very diplomatic response to an absurd request. I found it interesting that her FEC filings say she does not plan to exceed the $5,000 filing threshold, but she told us she would raise hundreds of millions of dollars... -Alicia On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net <mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net> > wrote: Hi Audrey, Thank you for writing to members of the Libertarian National Committee. However, the chances that this committee will dump Gary Johnson from this year's presidential ticket in October 2016 are vanishingly small, and if we did, the chances that we'd replace him with someone whom none of us seem to have heard of, who did not participate in our party's nomination process, and who for all we know may not even be a member of the Libertarian Party, just because she wrote to us out of the blue and told us she'll get 15% of the vote, etc., are basically zero. Surely you can understand that it would not be in the interests of the Libertarian Party or the cause of freedom for us to operate that way, any more than it would be in your interests for you to entrust your savings to someone who came up to you randomly on the street and promised you she could get you 15% interest on your money! But if you do believe in the cause of minimum government/maximum freedom and want to help, we welcome your support and there are lots of ways to get involved. You might contact your state or local chapter (you can look them up athttp://www.lp.org/states) and attend a local meeting or two for a start. If (as I gather from your message may be the case) you are already running for president as an independent, you can use that soapbox to speak out about government abuses, including the rigged, undemocratic elections process in this country that harms all alternative candidates and parties. The way things stand, it would be virtually impossible, even if the most desirable candidate in the world came along and offered to be our nominee, to get him or her on the ballot in all the states now, due to the complex ballot access rules. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:07 PM, William Redpath wrote:
I am sure that she would get the endorsement of The Detroit News. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/29/16, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com <mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com> > wrote:
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Dump Gary Johnson To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 8:03 PM
On another note. She is going to get 15% overnight but she couldn't get my email right when she sent it. At least I know why I didn't get it..
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Alicia Mattson <secretary@lp.org <mailto:secretary@lp.org> > wrote:
I'm not seriously considering doing what this message asks us to do, but I am curious whether this person is a member of the LP or not. Is she in our membership database?
-Alicia
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Audrey Addison Williams <healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com <mailto:healingsoulofamerica@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:56 AM Subject: Dump Gary Johnson To: chair@lp.org <mailto:chair@lp.org> Cc: Treasurer@lp.org <mailto:Treasurer@lp.org> , Starchild@lp.org <mailto:Starchild@lp.org> , Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org <mailto:Daniel.Hsyes@lp.org> , Sam.goldstein@lp.org <mailto:Sam.goldstein@lp.org> , Joshua.kstz@lp.org <mailto:Joshua.kstz@lp.org> , Secretary@lp.org <mailto:Secretary@lp.org> , Vicechair@lp.org <mailto:Vicechair@lp.org>
Nicholas I urge you to call an emergency session to urge Gary Johnson to step aside. I am registered with the FEC P60021250 I WILL get enough votes to make the Libertarian Party viable respected and influential I WILL bring Milennial and Minorities to the Libertarian Party I WILL raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the Libertarian Party I WILL quickly achieve the 15% required to participate in the last debate Wells remains as VP You have a responsibility to your Party and to the American People to ACT NOW!! Let's do THIS
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