I expect concerns to be addressed. I’m sitting with the contract today and noting them for tonight. You or Mr O’Donnell are free to call me to make sure I have yours down On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:31 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

=============================================

Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

=============================================

THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

...

...

...

Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

And Mr Longstreth you misread this motion. It does not require immediate signing. It merely transfers the authority now held by our chair to the officers. That is all. If you would like a reworded motion tell me the wording and I will make it. We have to stop finding roadblocks. I respect concerns and let’s fix them. Give me your wording please. We cannot keep dragging this out. The members are sick and tired of our inefficiency On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

No one is going to sign a dis favourable contract.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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I expect concerns to be addressed. I’m sitting with the contract today and noting them for tonight.

You or Mr O’Donnell are free to call me to make sure I have yours down

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:31 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

=============================================

Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

=============================================

THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

...

...

...

Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

--

*In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

Mr.Smith I will not authorize a bad contract or one with concerns regardless of how long people have been waiting. The contract needs to be tight and all issues answered. To rush a contract is to commit suicide. Further the chair did not say he would not sign to my memory but with all the teller stuff going on, I may have misheard. He only indicated he would not chair in Orlando. That is an important distinction Ms. Harlos, If that is the intent of the motion, it should not read so ambiguously. The motion does not mention LNC approval first or if the contract would be agreeable and only mentions that an officer sign the recommendation. I cannot support that at this time. Perhaps more dialed in language would be more favorable however, I also think we should follow our current rules and at least present the contract to the chair to sign before expanding that authority to others. Let's get a complete contract, present, then motion if needed. This motion circumvents established policy without any standing to do so outside of what is perceived will be the future actions of the chair. Et all, If Nick comes in here and says he also will not sign a contract, then I can consider turning the signing authority over to another person. Right now we need to focus on the contract and getting it right, not who will sign it. The time for this is not ripe. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:32 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

And Mr Longstreth you misread this motion. It does not require immediate signing. It merely transfers the authority now held by our chair to the officers.

That is all.

If you would like a reworded motion tell me the wording and I will make it.

We have to stop finding roadblocks. I respect concerns and let’s fix them.

Give me your wording please.

We cannot keep dragging this out. The members are sick and tired of our inefficiency

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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No one is going to sign a dis favourable contract.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

...

I expect concerns to be addressed. I’m sitting with the contract today and noting them for tonight.

You or Mr O’Donnell are free to call me to make sure I have yours down

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 9:31 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

...

...

> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > verification. You > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the > bottom of > the sheet. > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's > Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other

social

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> faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me > know. *

--

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

--

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

--

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

I agree wholeheartedly Mr Nekhaila Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:59 Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

...

I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

...

We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

=============================================

Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

=============================================

THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

...

...

...

Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

When is that call? What is the call-in number & PIN? Thanks, Bill Redpath On 2020-05-25 12:02, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:

Steven,

We can just do that tonight if Mr. Hall is on the joint COC/LNC call.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:07, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I agree wholeheartedly Mr Nekhaila

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:59 Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:

...

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

...

I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

...

I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

...

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> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > verification. You > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the > bottom of > the sheet. > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's > Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social > faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me > know. *

I'd prefer to hear from Mr. Hall separate. But, for the sake of expediency, if all can be in the session tonight, I'm good. --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) On 2020-05-25 15:42, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business wrote:

I would be in favor of that. That way we can knock out everything in gone go.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 01:02 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:

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Steven,

We can just do that tonight if Mr. Hall is on the joint COC/LNC call.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:07, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I agree wholeheartedly Mr Nekhaila

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:59 Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:

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I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > I vote yes. > > -Joshua > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> Merced, >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> Committee. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

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>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for >> verification. You >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the >> bottom of >> the sheet. >> >> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >> >> * In Liberty,* >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's >> Syndrome >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >> anyone >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >> faux >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >> know. *

I want to be clear here: I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign. I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

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Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

Richard, The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever. Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

=============================================

Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

=============================================

THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

Nothing in this motion precludes asking the chair first. What you are advocating by default by a no vote is potentially having this take seven days to fail, chair refuses, and then another seven days to pass. Thus, yes two weeks. I’m offering to float another motion today with wording you like better. I’m waiting for that wording. So far none received. Just complaints about this wording. On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:15 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... .

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> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > verification. You > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the > bottom of > the sheet. > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's > Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other

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> faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me > know. *

-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

Mr Phillips I will make that motion if I Mr Longstreth will confirm that satisfies him. I’m not in a mood to waste my time. On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

And if I understand the contract from the hotel it is only open for acceptance until June 1.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:56 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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Nothing in this motion precludes asking the chair first.

What you are advocating by default by a no vote is potentially having this take seven days to fail, chair refuses, and then another seven days to pass. Thus, yes two weeks.

I’m offering to float another motion today with wording you like better. I’m waiting for that wording. So far none received. Just complaints about this wording.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:15 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I vote No > > At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this > contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been > recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention > that > it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. > > Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset > about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an > issue > because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a > final > version yet. > > The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday > morning > was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained > council, > advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract > with > regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. > > I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the > members > of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story > consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and > ready > during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. > > I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable > review > from our attorney, Mr. Hall. > > On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my > replacement > electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to > serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be > displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. > The > last few months this board has been torn apart with childish > factionalism > and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could > benefit > from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that > you > dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every > percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the > past > few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to > explain our conduct. > > > Regards, > Justin O'Donnell > LNC Region 8 Representative > > On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > I vote Aye. > > In Liberty, > > Steven Nekhaila > Region 2 Representative > Libertarian National Committee > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > > I vote yes. > > > > -Joshua > > > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >> > >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > >> pm > >> Pacific time. > >> > >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > >> Merced, > >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > >> > >> ============================================= > >> > >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > >> Committee. > >> > >> ============================================= > >> > >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > >> > >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >> > > >

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John, the LNC has delegated the authority for contract negotiation to the COC. We get legal counsel review. The LNC does not typically approve the contract. That is not part of the usual process. It wasn't part of the process when this LNC chose Reno for 2022 and D.C. for 2024. This time COC has chosen to expand the number of eyes on it and share the contract with the LNC because of all the political games being played. All: I'm going to do another hard read of the contract and our legal counsel's comments before the COC meeting tonight. I know some have been trying to use scare tactics to manipulate the delegates with fears about financial risk, etc. When there is a clause that says our food & beverage requirement is $X, it is the legal counsel's job to say, "I want to draw your attention to this item, which is a financial risk." He isn't opining about whether it's a reasonable number in the circumstances. That's for the COC to evaluate, and we have. Our counsel is making sure we are aware of it. And we are. And the number in this contract is very comfortable to the COC. It is WAAAAY lower than the number in a typical convention contract. Same thing with room block attrition. Yes, it is a non-zero risk, but the COC has discussed it in the context of potential low-turnout due to COVID-19, in context of historical numbers, and we're very comfortable that we can meet these requirements. When someone portray's counsel's highlight of the number to say, "there are concerns" well that's not really a fair representation. People are too willing to fan the flames of hysteria without the underlying facts. The facts will be up for discussion on the COC meeting tonight. We'll show you historical comparison data. Then let's get on with it because it's only 45 days until the convention needs to call to order in Orlando. -Alicia On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:01 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I m not reading through all that today, I did skim.

Here is my suggestion.

Amend the wording to say "upon LNC approval of the contract with *insert venue name here* we authorize execution of the contract by signature of two (2) elected party officers ..."

Ensures contract approval first, lets us move ahead with this, and provides a check by requiring 2 sigs.

It doesn't have to be a battle when solutions to the objections are easy.

John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973

On May 25, 2020 12:15 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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On May 25, 2020 12:15 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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On May 25, 2020 12:15 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >

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Mr. Merced already requested my co-signature and I agreed. 75%ish of delegates spoke loudly. Get this done. On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:54 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Mrs Harlos, I get that. I would not want to either.

Ms Mattson, thank you.

I was aware of that, just thought it would solve some of the objections. Not married to it by any means. The sigs of 2 officers would serve enough for me. Or majority of the Exec Committee, whatever.

To be clear tho Mr Longstreith's objections are not without merit.

I am sorry, but people on all sides of this have shown that their desire to get their way has impacted their logic, actions, and decision making negatively. As such I agree with some of his concerns and thoughts as well as having my own. I would like to see this motion to be amended in some way that would require a more significant approval process for signing, even if it is just 2 officers.

John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973

On May 25, 2020 1:39 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

John, the LNC has delegated the authority for contract negotiation to the COC. We get legal counsel review. The LNC does not typically approve the contract. That is not part of the usual process. It wasn't part of the process when this LNC chose Reno for 2022 and D.C. for 2024. This time COC has chosen to expand the number of eyes on it and share the contract with the LNC because of all the political games being played.

All:

I'm going to do another hard read of the contract and our legal counsel's comments before the COC meeting tonight.

I know some have been trying to use scare tactics to manipulate the delegates with fears about financial risk, etc.

When there is a clause that says our food & beverage requirement is $X, it is the legal counsel's job to say, "I want to draw your attention to this item, which is a financial risk." He isn't opining about whether it's a reasonable number in the circumstances. That's for the COC to evaluate, and we have. Our counsel is making sure we are aware of it. And we are. And the number in this contract is very comfortable to the COC. It is WAAAAY lower than the number in a typical convention contract. Same thing with room block attrition. Yes, it is a non-zero risk, but the COC has discussed it in the context of potential low-turnout due to COVID-19, in context of historical numbers, and we're very comfortable that we can meet these requirements. When someone portray's counsel's highlight of the number to say, "there are concerns" well that's not really a fair representation.

People are too willing to fan the flames of hysteria without the underlying facts. The facts will be up for discussion on the COC meeting tonight. We'll show you historical comparison data. Then let's get on with it because it's only 45 days until the convention needs to call to order in Orlando.

-Alicia

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:01 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I m not reading through all that today, I did skim.

Here is my suggestion.

Amend the wording to say "upon LNC approval of the contract with *insert venue name here* we authorize execution of the contract by signature of two (2) elected party officers ..."

Ensures contract approval first, lets us move ahead with this, and provides a check by requiring 2 sigs.

It doesn't have to be a battle when solutions to the objections are easy.

John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973

On May 25, 2020 12:15 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > I vote yes. > > -Joshua > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> Merced, >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> Committee. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >

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On May 25, 2020 12:15 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > I vote yes. > > -Joshua > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> Merced, >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> Committee. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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On May 25, 2020 12:15 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely, --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote:

I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > I vote yes. > > -Joshua > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> Merced, >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> Committee. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >

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>> anyone >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >> faux >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >> know. *

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*In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from? The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms. Are we adding new procedure now? On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Richard,

You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such an extreme measure.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote:

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I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely,

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote yes.

-Joshua

On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

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Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

Yes Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

On May 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from? The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms. Are we adding new procedure now? On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Richard, You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such an extreme measure. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely,

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I vote No

At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > I vote yes. > > -Joshua > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> Merced, >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> Committee. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for >> verification. You >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the >> bottom of >> the sheet. >> >> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >> >> * In Liberty,* >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's >> Syndrome >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >> anyone >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >> faux >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >> know. *

The only remaining concern I have is that Nick needs to be given the opportunity to sign before I vote Yes on this, as expressed on the COC call last night. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, May 25, 2020, 20:43 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I believe my concerns have all been covered. Yes.

John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973

On May 25, 2020 10:05 PM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes

Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

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On May 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from? The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms. Are we adding new procedure now? On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Richard, You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such an extreme measure. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely,

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I vote No > > At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this > contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been > recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention > that > it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. > > Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset > about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an > issue > because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a > final > version yet. > > The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday > morning > was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained > council, > advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract > with > regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. > > I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the > members > of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story > consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and > ready > during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. > > I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable > review > from our attorney, Mr. Hall. > > On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my > replacement > electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to > serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be > displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. > The > last few months this board has been torn apart with childish > factionalism > and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could > benefit > from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that > you > dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every > percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the > past > few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to > explain our conduct. > > > Regards, > Justin O'Donnell > LNC Region 8 Representative > > On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > I vote Aye. > > In Liberty, > > Steven Nekhaila > Region 2 Representative > Libertarian National Committee > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >> I vote yes. >> >> -Joshua >> >> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>> >>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >>> pm >>> Pacific time. >>> >>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >>> Merced, >>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >>> >>> ============================================= >>> >>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >>> Committee. >>> >>> ============================================= >>> >>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >>> >>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >>> >> >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY....

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> >>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for >>> verification. You >>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the >>> bottom of >>> the sheet. >>> >>> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >>> >>> * In Liberty,* >>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's >>> Syndrome >>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >>> anyone >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >>> faux >>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >>> know. * > > >

I would like to if at all possible. Could you also link the social media post, I've not seen it. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Tue, May 26, 2020, 08:37 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

the Chair indicated publicly on social media yesterday he would not sign. Further, this expires the day before the contract must be signed. Unless you say you are giving him the opportunity prior to expiration.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:17 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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The only remaining concern I have is that Nick needs to be given the opportunity to sign before I vote Yes on this, as expressed on the COC call last night.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Mon, May 25, 2020, 20:43 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I believe my concerns have all been covered. Yes.

John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973

On May 25, 2020 10:05 PM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes

Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

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On May 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from? The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms. Are we adding new procedure now? On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Richard, You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such an extreme measure. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell > On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions? > > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. > > * Gavel in austin, no matter what > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens > * Hijack the convention and force everything online > Etc > Etc > Etc > > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board. > > We have procedures. > They should be followed. > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. > > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. > > Richard Longstreth > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > Libertarian National Committee > richard.longstreth@lp.org > 931.538.9300 > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: > > Richard, > > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever. > > Sincerely, > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell > > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: > I want to be clear here: > > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign. > > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. > Richard Longstreth > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > Libertarian National Committee > richard.longstreth@lp.org > 931.538.9300 > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract. > > Sam Goldstein > > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. > > In Liberty, > > Steven Nekhaila > Region 2 Representative > Libertarian National Committee > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >> I change my vote to no. >> >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing >> mountains >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies >> noted >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to >> read >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign >> now. >> >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me >> based >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to >> do >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back >> to >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on >> this >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where >> we >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. >> >> Richard Longstreth >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >> Libertarian National Committee >> richard.longstreth@lp.org >> 931.538.9300 >> >> Sent from my Mobile Device >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> I vote No >>> >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention >>> that >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. >>> >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an >>> issue >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a >>> final >>> version yet. >>> >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday >>> morning >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained >>> council, >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract >>> with >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. >>> >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the >>> members >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and >>> ready >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. >>> >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable >>> review >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. >>> >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my >>> replacement >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. >>> The >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish >>> factionalism >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could >>> benefit >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that >>> you >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the >>> past >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to >>> explain our conduct. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Justin O'Donnell >>> LNC Region 8 Representative >>> >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >>> I vote Aye. >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Steven Nekhaila >>> Region 2 Representative >>> Libertarian National Committee >>> >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >>>> I vote yes. >>>> >>>> -Joshua >>>> >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>>>> >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >>>>> pm >>>>> Pacific time. >>>>> >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >>>>> Merced, >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >>>>> >>>>> ============================================= >>>>> >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >>>>> Committee. >>>>> >>>>> ============================================= >>>>> >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >>>>> >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >>>>> >>>> >>>

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I haven't seen anything like that on social media either. Would also be interested in a link. --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) On 2020-05-26 16:18, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

I would like to if at all possible. Could you also link the social media post, I've not seen it.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Tue, May 26, 2020, 08:37 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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the Chair indicated publicly on social media yesterday he would not sign. Further, this expires the day before the contract must be signed. Unless you say you are giving him the opportunity prior to expiration.

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* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

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The only remaining concern I have is that Nick needs to be given the opportunity to sign before I vote Yes on this, as expressed on the COC call last night.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 20:43 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I believe my concerns have all been covered. Yes.

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On May 25, 2020 10:05 PM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes

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On May 25, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

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On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from? The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms. Are we adding new procedure now? On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > Richard, > You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me > in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this > motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the > contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from > office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such > an extreme measure. > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell >> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: > > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you > verify those discussions? > > > > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two > weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. > > > > * Gavel in austin, no matter what > > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even > nominated with enough tokens > > * Hijack the convention and force everything online > > Etc > > Etc > > Etc > > > > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been > put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what > our chair might do dictating actions of this board. > > > > We have procedures. > > They should be followed. > > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. > > > > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from > office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to > have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. > > > > Richard Longstreth > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > > Libertarian National Committee > > richard.longstreth@lp.org > > 931.538.9300 > > > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: > > > > Richard, > > > > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a > contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not > preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he > does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > --- > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > > Libertarian National Committee > > 317-850-0726 Cell > > > > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: > > I want to be clear here: > > > > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that > was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as > recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet > ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will > not sign. > > > > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract > once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the > motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the > horse right now. > > Richard Longstreth > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > > Libertarian National Committee > > richard.longstreth@lp.org > > 931.538.9300 > > > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel > contract. > > > > Sam Goldstein > > > > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, > > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and > > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could > > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a > > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the > > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. > > > > In Liberty, > > > > Steven Nekhaila > > Region 2 Representative > > Libertarian National Committee > > > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > > > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: > >> I change my vote to no. > >> > >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing > >> mountains > >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies > >> noted > >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to > >> read > >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign > >> now. > >> > >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me > >> based > >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to > >> do > >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns > >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back > >> to > >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on > >> this > >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where > >> we > >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. > >> > >> Richard Longstreth > >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > >> Libertarian National Committee > >> richard.longstreth@lp.org > >> 931.538.9300 > >> > >> Sent from my Mobile Device > >> > >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < > >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> > >>> I vote No > >>> > >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this > >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been > >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention > >>> that > >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. > >>> > >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset > >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an > >>> issue > >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a > >>> final > >>> version yet. > >>> > >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday > >>> morning > >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained > >>> council, > >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract > >>> with > >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. > >>> > >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the > >>> members > >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story > >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and > >>> ready > >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. > >>> > >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable > >>> review > >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. > >>> > >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my > >>> replacement > >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to > >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be > >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. > >>> The > >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish > >>> factionalism > >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could > >>> benefit > >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that > >>> you > >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every > >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the > >>> past > >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to > >>> explain our conduct. > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Justin O'Donnell > >>> LNC Region 8 Representative > >>> > >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> I vote Aye. > >>> > >>> In Liberty, > >>> > >>> Steven Nekhaila > >>> Region 2 Representative > >>> Libertarian National Committee > >>> > >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > >>> > >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > >>>> I vote yes. > >>>> > >>>> -Joshua > >>>> > >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>>>> > >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > >>>>> pm > >>>>> Pacific time. > >>>>> > >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > >>>>> Merced, > >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > >>>>> > >>>>> ============================================= > >>>>> > >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > >>>>> Committee. > >>>>> > >>>>> ============================================= > >>>>> > >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > >>>>> > >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> >

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Hello All, For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom" On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:

Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

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And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from?

The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms.

Are we adding new procedure now?

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You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such an extreme measure.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions?

Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass.

* Gavel in austin, no matter what * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens * Hijack the convention and force everything online Etc Etc Etc

Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board.

We have procedures. They should be followed. If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately.

Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

Richard,

The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever.

Sincerely,

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: I want to be clear here:

I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign.

I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract.

Sam Goldstein

On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:

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I change my vote to no.

This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing mountains of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies noted by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to read that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign now.

While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me based on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to do so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back to yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on this body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where we stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention that it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared.

Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an issue because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a final version yet.

The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday morning was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained council, advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract with regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances.

I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the members of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and ready during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately.

I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable review from our attorney, Mr. Hall.

On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my replacement electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. The last few months this board has been torn apart with childish factionalism and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could benefit from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that you dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the past few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to explain our conduct.

Regards, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative

On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote Aye.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > I vote yes. > > -Joshua > > On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> pm >> Pacific time. >> >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> Merced, >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >> ============================================= >> >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> Committee. >> >> ============================================= >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >

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>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for >> verification. You >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the >> bottom of >> the sheet. >> >> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >> >> * In Liberty,* >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's >> Syndrome >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >> anyone >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >> faux >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >> know. *

Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain. I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

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On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Hello All,

For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:

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Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

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And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from?

The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms.

Are we adding new procedure now?

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to me in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of the contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him from office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for such an extreme measure.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote:

> I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you verify those discussions? > > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. > > * Gavel in austin, no matter what > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even nominated with enough tokens > * Hijack the convention and force everything online > Etc > Etc > Etc > > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of what our chair might do dictating actions of this board. > > We have procedures. > They should be followed. > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. > > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules to have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. > > Richard Longstreth > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > Libertarian National Committee > richard.longstreth@lp.org > 931.538.9300 > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: > > Richard, > > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option if he does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms forever. > > Sincerely, > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell > > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: > I want to be clear here: > > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday as recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not yet ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that he will not sign. > > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do the motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before the horse right now. > Richard Longstreth > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > Libertarian National Committee > richard.longstreth@lp.org > 931.538.9300 > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel contract. > > Sam Goldstein > > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. > > In Liberty, > > Steven Nekhaila > Region 2 Representative > Libertarian National Committee > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >> I change my vote to no. >> >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing >> mountains >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies >> noted >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to >> read >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign >> now. >> >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me >> based >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to >> do >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back >> to >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on >> this >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where >> we >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. >> >> Richard Longstreth >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >> Libertarian National Committee >> richard.longstreth@lp.org >> 931.538.9300 >> >> Sent from my Mobile Device >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> I vote No >>> >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention >>> that >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. >>> >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an >>> issue >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a >>> final >>> version yet. >>> >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday >>> morning >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained >>> council, >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract >>> with >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. >>> >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the >>> members >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and >>> ready >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. >>> >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable >>> review >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. >>> >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my >>> replacement >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. >>> The >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish >>> factionalism >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could >>> benefit >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that >>> you >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the >>> past >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to >>> explain our conduct. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Justin O'Donnell >>> LNC Region 8 Representative >>> >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >>> I vote Aye. >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Steven Nekhaila >>> Region 2 Representative >>> Libertarian National Committee >>> >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >>>> I vote yes. >>>> >>>> -Joshua >>>> >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>>>> >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >>>>> pm >>>>> Pacific time. >>>>> >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >>>>> Merced, >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >>>>> >>>>> ============================================= >>>>> >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >>>>> Committee. >>>>> >>>>> ============================================= >>>>> >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >>>>> >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >>>>> >>>> >>>

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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

I call upon the LNC to remove the chair if he forwards a signed contract outside of his authority. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:11 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Richard, would you like to consider upgrading your vote to a "yes" now, given that Nick has said he will only sign the unauthorized version?

-Alicia

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:08 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain.

I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

Erin Adams Region 7 alt.

On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Hello All,

For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:

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Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the > contract. > Where did that comes from? > > The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to > sign > on favorable terms. > > Are we adding new procedure now? > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> Richard, >> >> You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to >> me >> in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this >> motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of >> the >> contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him >> from >> office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for >> such >> an extreme measure. >> >> --- >> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >> Libertarian National Committee >> 317-850-0726 Cell >> >> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: >> >> > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you >> verify those discussions? >> > >> > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two >> weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. >> > >> > * Gavel in austin, no matter what >> > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even >> nominated with enough tokens >> > * Hijack the convention and force everything online >> > Etc >> > Etc >> > Etc >> > >> > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been >> put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of >> what >> our chair might do dictating actions of this board. >> > >> > We have procedures. >> > They should be followed. >> > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. >> > >> > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from >> office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules >> to >> have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. >> > >> > Richard Longstreth >> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >> > Libertarian National Committee >> > richard.longstreth@lp.org >> > 931.538.9300 >> > >> > Sent from my Mobile Device >> > >> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein < sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: >> > >> > Richard, >> > >> > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a >> contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not >> preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option >> if he >> does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms >> forever. >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > >> > --- >> > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >> > Libertarian National Committee >> > 317-850-0726 Cell >> > >> > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: >> > I want to be clear here: >> > >> > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that >> was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday >> as >> recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not >> yet >> ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that >> he will >> not sign. >> > >> > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract >> once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do >> the >> motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before >> the >> horse right now. >> > Richard Longstreth >> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >> > Libertarian National Committee >> > richard.longstreth@lp.org >> > 931.538.9300 >> > >> > Sent from my Mobile Device >> > >> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel >> contract. >> > >> > Sam Goldstein >> > >> > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> > >> > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, >> > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and >> > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could >> > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a >> > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the >> > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. >> > >> > In Liberty, >> > >> > Steven Nekhaila >> > Region 2 Representative >> > Libertarian National Committee >> > >> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >> > >> > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >> >> I change my vote to no. >> >> >> >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing >> >> mountains >> >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies >> >> noted >> >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to >> >> read >> >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign >> >> now. >> >> >> >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me >> >> based >> >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to >> >> do >> >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns >> >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back >> >> to >> >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on >> >> this >> >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where >> >> we >> >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. >> >> >> >> Richard Longstreth >> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >> >> Libertarian National Committee >> >> richard.longstreth@lp.org >> >> 931.538.9300 >> >> >> >> Sent from my Mobile Device >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < >> >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I vote No >> >>> >> >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this >> >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been >> >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention >> >>> that >> >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. >> >>> >> >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset >> >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an >> >>> issue >> >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a >> >>> final >> >>> version yet. >> >>> >> >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday >> >>> morning >> >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained >> >>> council, >> >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract >> >>> with >> >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. >> >>> >> >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the >> >>> members >> >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story >> >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and >> >>> ready >> >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. >> >>> >> >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable >> >>> review >> >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. >> >>> >> >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my >> >>> replacement >> >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to >> >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be >> >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. >> >>> The >> >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish >> >>> factionalism >> >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could >> >>> benefit >> >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that >> >>> you >> >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every >> >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the >> >>> past >> >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to >> >>> explain our conduct. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Justin O'Donnell >> >>> LNC Region 8 Representative >> >>> >> >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I vote Aye. >> >>> >> >>> In Liberty, >> >>> >> >>> Steven Nekhaila >> >>> Region 2 Representative >> >>> Libertarian National Committee >> >>> >> >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >> >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >> >>> >> >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >> >>>> I vote yes. >> >>>> >> >>>> -Joshua >> >>>> >> >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >> >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >> >>>>> pm >> >>>>> Pacific time. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >> >>>>> Merced, >> >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ============================================= >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >> >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >> >>>>> Committee. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ============================================= >> >>>>> >> >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >> >>>>> >> >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>

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* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

Just a reminder I’m ready and willing to co-sign a contract. Cell phone is the quickest way to reach me when it comes to that point. The CoC modification was Fair and reasonable in context of the conversation at this point. Delegates need to book flights and hotels, different groups need to rush to get to planning not just this event but the technology and efforts to allow broad participation and giving them the certainty that this event won’t be canceled under unreasonable circumstances isn’t much to ask for. I know I am trying my best to be open to all sides and facilitate a result that maximizes what everyone wants, and while I appreciate the Chair coming to the CoC meeting and speaking on Thursday along with the renegotiation of the contract and will continue to see these actions in good faith, I don’t see a good faith reason to not accept the modification. This is not asking for 2/3 or a unanimous vote to cancel, but a simple majority which should be quite attainable if circumstances warrant it. Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

On May 31, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I call upon the LNC to remove the chair if he forwards a signed contract outside of his authority.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

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On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:11 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Richard, would you like to consider upgrading your vote to a "yes" now, given that Nick has said he will only sign the unauthorized version?

-Alicia

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:08 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain.

I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

Erin Adams Region 7 alt.

On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Hello All,

For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: > Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back > procedure with buyin from the LNC. > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell > > On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: >> And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the >> contract. >> Where did that comes from? >> >> The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to >> sign >> on favorable terms. >> >> Are we adding new procedure now? >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> Richard, >>> >>> You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to >>> me >>> in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this >>> motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of >>> the >>> contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him >>> from >>> office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for >>> such >>> an extreme measure. >>> >>> --- >>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >>> Libertarian National Committee >>> 317-850-0726 Cell >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: >>> >>>> I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you >>> verify those discussions? >>>> >>>> Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two >>> weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. >>>> >>>> * Gavel in austin, no matter what >>>> * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even >>> nominated with enough tokens >>>> * Hijack the convention and force everything online >>>> Etc >>>> Etc >>>> Etc >>>> >>>> Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been >>> put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of >>> what >>> our chair might do dictating actions of this board. >>>> >>>> We have procedures. >>>> They should be followed. >>>> If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. >>>> >>>> Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from >>> office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules >>> to >>> have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. >>>> >>>> Richard Longstreth >>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>>> 931.538.9300 >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein < sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a >>> contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not >>> preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option >>> if he >>> does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms >>> forever. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> 317-850-0726 Cell >>>> >>>> On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: >>>> I want to be clear here: >>>> >>>> I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that >>> was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday >>> as >>> recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not >>> yet >>> ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that >>> he will >>> not sign. >>>> >>>> I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract >>> once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do >>> the >>> motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before >>> the >>> horse right now. >>>> Richard Longstreth >>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>>> 931.538.9300 >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>> The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel >>> contract. >>>> >>>> Sam Goldstein >>>> >>>> On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, >>>> under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and >>>> insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could >>>> consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a >>>> conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the >>>> information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. >>>> >>>> In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Steven Nekhaila >>>> Region 2 Representative >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> >>>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>>> >>>> On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >>>>> I change my vote to no. >>>>> >>>>> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing >>>>> mountains >>>>> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies >>>>> noted >>>>> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to >>>>> read >>>>> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me >>>>> based >>>>> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to >>>>> do >>>>> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns >>>>> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back >>>>> to >>>>> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on >>>>> this >>>>> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where >>>>> we >>>>> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. >>>>> >>>>> Richard Longstreth >>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>>>> 931.538.9300 >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < >>>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I vote No >>>>>> >>>>>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this >>>>>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been >>>>>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention >>>>>> that >>>>>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset >>>>>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an >>>>>> issue >>>>>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a >>>>>> final >>>>>> version yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday >>>>>> morning >>>>>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained >>>>>> council, >>>>>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract >>>>>> with >>>>>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. >>>>>> >>>>>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the >>>>>> members >>>>>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story >>>>>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and >>>>>> ready >>>>>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable >>>>>> review >>>>>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. >>>>>> >>>>>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my >>>>>> replacement >>>>>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to >>>>>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be >>>>>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. >>>>>> The >>>>>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish >>>>>> factionalism >>>>>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could >>>>>> benefit >>>>>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that >>>>>> you >>>>>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every >>>>>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the >>>>>> past >>>>>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to >>>>>> explain our conduct. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Justin O'Donnell >>>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>>>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I vote Aye. >>>>>> >>>>>> In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven Nekhaila >>>>>> Region 2 Representative >>>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>>> >>>>>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>>>>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >>>>>>> I vote yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Joshua >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >>>>>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >>>>>>>> pm >>>>>>>> Pacific time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >>>>>>>> Merced, >>>>>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ============================================= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >>>>>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >>>>>>>> Committee. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ============================================= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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. >>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for >>>>>>>> verification. You >>>>>>>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the >>>>>>>> bottom of >>>>>>>> the sheet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * In Liberty,* >>>>>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's >>>>>>>> Syndrome >>>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >>>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >>>>>>>> faux >>>>>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >>>>>>>> know. * >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>

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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

Naked power grab and shame on any LNC member that NOW refuses to see it. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:20 PM erin.adams--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Whitney, Did you mean to say that the chair will only sign the version that does not require lnc approval to cancel?

Erin Adams Region 7 alt.

On May 31, 2020 2:06 PM, "Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Just a reminder I’m ready and willing to co-sign a contract. Cell phone is the quickest way to reach me when it comes to that point.

The CoC modification was Fair and reasonable in context of the conversation at this point. Delegates need to book flights and hotels, different groups need to rush to get to planning not just this event but the technology and efforts to allow broad participation and giving them the certainty that this event won’t be canceled under unreasonable circumstances isn’t much to ask for.

I know I am trying my best to be open to all sides and facilitate a result that maximizes what everyone wants, and while I appreciate the Chair coming to the CoC meeting and speaking on Thursday along with the renegotiation of the contract and will continue to see these actions in good faith, I don’t see a good faith reason to not accept the modification. This is not asking for 2/3 or a unanimous vote to cancel, but a simple majority which should be quite attainable if circumstances warrant it.

Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

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On May 31, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I call upon the LNC to remove the chair if he forwards a signed contract outside of his authority.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

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On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 12:11 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Richard, would you like to consider upgrading your vote to a "yes" now, given that Nick has said he will only sign the unauthorized version?

-Alicia

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 8:08 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain.

I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

Erin Adams Region 7 alt.

On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Hello All, > > For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes > when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is > the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair. > > In Liberty, > > Steven Nekhaila > Region 2 Representative > Libertarian National Committee > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: >> Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back >> procedure with buyin from the LNC. >> >> --- >> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >> Libertarian National Committee >> 317-850-0726 Cell >> >> On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: >>> And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the >>> contract. >>> Where did that comes from? >>> >>> The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to >>> sign >>> on favorable terms. >>> >>> Are we adding new procedure now? >>> >>> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Richard, >>>> >>>> You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to >>>> me >>>> in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this >>>> motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of >>>> the >>>> contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him >>>> from >>>> office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for >>>> such >>>> an extreme measure. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>> 317-850-0726 Cell >>>> >>>> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you >>>> verify those discussions? >>>>> >>>>> Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two >>>> weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. >>>>> >>>>> * Gavel in austin, no matter what >>>>> * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even >>>> nominated with enough tokens >>>>> * Hijack the convention and force everything online >>>>> Etc >>>>> Etc >>>>> Etc >>>>> >>>>> Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have > been >>>> put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of >>>> what >>>> our chair might do dictating actions of this board. >>>>> >>>>> We have procedures. >>>>> They should be followed. >>>>> If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. >>>>> >>>>> Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from >>>> office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules >>>> to >>>> have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. >>>>> >>>>> Richard Longstreth >>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>>>> 931.538.9300 >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein < sam.goldstein@lp.org> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Richard, >>>>> >>>>> The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a >>>> contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not >>>> preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option >>>> if he >>>> does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms >>>> forever. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell >>>>> >>>>> On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: >>>>> I want to be clear here: >>>>> >>>>> I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract > that >>>> was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday >>>> as >>>> recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not >>>> yet >>>> ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that >>>> he will >>>> not sign. >>>>> >>>>> I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the > contract >>>> once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do >>>> the >>>> motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before >>>> the >>>> horse right now. >>>>> Richard Longstreth >>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>>>> 931.538.9300 >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < >>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>> The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel >>>> contract. >>>>> >>>>> Sam Goldstein >>>>> >>>>> On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal > council, >>>>> under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and >>>>> insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could >>>>> consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a >>>>> conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the >>>>> information, from all sides, then we can make the best > recommendations. >>>>> >>>>> In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Steven Nekhaila >>>>> Region 2 Representative >>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>> >>>>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>>>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>>>> >>>>> On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >>>>>> I change my vote to no. >>>>>> >>>>>> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing >>>>>> mountains >>>>>> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies >>>>>> noted >>>>>> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to >>>>>> read >>>>>> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to > sign >>>>>> now. >>>>>> >>>>>> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to > me >>>>>> based >>>>>> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing > anybody to >>>>>> do >>>>>> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all > concerns >>>>>> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change > back >>>>>> to >>>>>> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on >>>>>> this >>>>>> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of > where >>>>>> we >>>>>> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard Longstreth >>>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>>> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>>>>> 931.538.9300 >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < >>>>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I vote No >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that > this >>>>>>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been >>>>>>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the > convention >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list > upset >>>>>>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its > an >>>>>>> issue >>>>>>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a >>>>>>> final >>>>>>> version yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday >>>>>>> morning >>>>>>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained >>>>>>> council, >>>>>>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable > contract >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the >>>>>>> members >>>>>>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story >>>>>>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine > and >>>>>>> ready >>>>>>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed > privately. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable >>>>>>> review >>>>>>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my >>>>>>> replacement >>>>>>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a > pleasure to >>>>>>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would > not be >>>>>>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC > members. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish >>>>>>> factionalism >>>>>>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could >>>>>>> benefit >>>>>>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization > that >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every >>>>>>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board > the >>>>>>> past >>>>>>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have > to >>>>>>> explain our conduct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Justin O'Donnell >>>>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>>>>>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I vote Aye. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steven Nekhaila >>>>>>> Region 2 Representative >>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>>>>>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >>>>>>>> I vote yes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Joshua >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >>>>>>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at > 11:59:59 >>>>>>>>> pm >>>>>>>>> Pacific time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >>>>>>>>> Merced, >>>>>>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ============================================= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the > Orlando >>>>>>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >>>>>>>>> Committee. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ============================================= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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> . >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for >>>>>>>>> verification. You >>>>>>>>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the >>>>>>>>> bottom of >>>>>>>>> the sheet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * In Liberty,* >>>>>>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's >>>>>>>>> Syndrome >>>>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >>>>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other > social >>>>>>>>> faux >>>>>>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me >>>>>>>>> know. * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> > --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

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*In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

Richard, it is my understanding that Nick stated he won't be signing the COC-approved version, and will only sign the one that requires LNC approval for cancellation. So, I want to be sure you are aware of that when you vote. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:08 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain.

I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

Erin Adams Region 7 alt.

On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Hello All,

For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:

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Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back procedure with buyin from the LNC.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

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And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the contract. Where did that comes from?

The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to sign on favorable terms.

Are we adding new procedure now?

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Richard, > > You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to > me > in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this > motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of > the > contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him > from > office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for > such > an extreme measure. > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell > > On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: > > > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you > verify those discussions? > > > > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two > weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. > > > > * Gavel in austin, no matter what > > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even > nominated with enough tokens > > * Hijack the convention and force everything online > > Etc > > Etc > > Etc > > > > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been > put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of > what > our chair might do dictating actions of this board. > > > > We have procedures. > > They should be followed. > > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. > > > > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from > office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules > to > have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. > > > > Richard Longstreth > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > > Libertarian National Committee > > richard.longstreth@lp.org > > 931.538.9300 > > > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein < sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: > > > > Richard, > > > > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a > contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not > preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option > if he > does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms > forever. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > --- > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > > Libertarian National Committee > > 317-850-0726 Cell > > > > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: > > I want to be clear here: > > > > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that > was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday > as > recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not > yet > ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that > he will > not sign. > > > > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract > once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do > the > motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before > the > horse right now. > > Richard Longstreth > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > > Libertarian National Committee > > richard.longstreth@lp.org > > 931.538.9300 > > > > Sent from my Mobile Device > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel > contract. > > > > Sam Goldstein > > > > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, > > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and > > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could > > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a > > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the > > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. > > > > In Liberty, > > > > Steven Nekhaila > > Region 2 Representative > > Libertarian National Committee > > > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > > > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: > >> I change my vote to no. > >> > >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing > >> mountains > >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies > >> noted > >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to > >> read > >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign > >> now. > >> > >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me > >> based > >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to > >> do > >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns > >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back > >> to > >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on > >> this > >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where > >> we > >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. > >> > >> Richard Longstreth > >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > >> Libertarian National Committee > >> richard.longstreth@lp.org > >> 931.538.9300 > >> > >> Sent from my Mobile Device > >> > >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < > >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> > >>> I vote No > >>> > >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this > >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been > >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention > >>> that > >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. > >>> > >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset > >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an > >>> issue > >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a > >>> final > >>> version yet. > >>> > >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday > >>> morning > >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained > >>> council, > >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract > >>> with > >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. > >>> > >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the > >>> members > >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story > >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and > >>> ready > >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. > >>> > >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable > >>> review > >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. > >>> > >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my > >>> replacement > >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to > >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be > >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. > >>> The > >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish > >>> factionalism > >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could > >>> benefit > >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that > >>> you > >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every > >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the > >>> past > >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to > >>> explain our conduct. > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Justin O'Donnell > >>> LNC Region 8 Representative > >>> > >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> I vote Aye. > >>> > >>> In Liberty, > >>> > >>> Steven Nekhaila > >>> Region 2 Representative > >>> Libertarian National Committee > >>> > >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > >>> > >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > >>>> I vote yes. > >>>> > >>>> -Joshua > >>>> > >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>>>> > >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 > >>>>> pm > >>>>> Pacific time. > >>>>> > >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > >>>>> Merced, > >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > >>>>> > >>>>> ============================================= > >>>>> > >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > >>>>> Committee. > >>>>> > >>>>> ============================================= > >>>>> > >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > >>>>> > >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> >

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> > >>> > >>>>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > >>>>> verification. You > >>>>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the > >>>>> bottom of > >>>>> the sheet. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies. > >>>>> > >>>>> * In Liberty,* > >>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's > >>>>> Syndrome > >>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > >>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > >>>>> anyone > >>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social > >>>>> faux > >>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me > >>>>> know. * > >>> > >>> > >>> >

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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

-- *Whitney Bilyeu* Libertarian National Committee Region 7 Representative 281.433.4966 LP.ORG

I change my vote to yes. === Because of the chair's excessive posturing and notes that he will not follow our policy manual in terms of signing the approved contract from the COC, And because the chair has indicated a desire to sign an unapproved contract despite being reminded of clear policy manual requirements, And because we need to finalize arrangements with the hotel by tomorrow I change my vote to yes. I have given Mr Sarwark plenty of time to consider his duties. I have tried to give the benefit of the doubt that a better contract would yield his participation and adherence to our policies. I am at this point convinced that we have the best possible contract in front of us, including the new COC edits to empower the LNC to cancel. The risk is minimal to the party. Whatever the game here is, I am no longer willing to give Mr. Sarwark any more time and change my vote to yes so that obstructionist behavior can be overcome and this party can hopefully (and finally) move forward. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sun, May 31, 2020, 12:18 Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu@lp.org> wrote:

Correction on my last email to Richard: typo on my part.

Richard, it is my understanding that Nick stated he won't be signing the COC-approved version, and will only sign the one that DOES NOT require LNC approval for cancellation. So, I want to be sure you are aware of that when you vote.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:00 PM Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard, it is my understanding that Nick stated he won't be signing the COC-approved version, and will only sign the one that requires LNC approval for cancellation. So, I want to be sure you are aware of that when you vote.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:08 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain.

I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

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On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Hello All,

For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair.

In Liberty,

Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee

Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"

On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: > Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back > procedure with buyin from the LNC. > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell > > On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: >> And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the >> contract. >> Where did that comes from? >> >> The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to >> sign >> on favorable terms. >> >> Are we adding new procedure now? >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> Richard, >>> >>> You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to >>> me >>> in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this >>> motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of >>> the >>> contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him >>> from >>> office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for >>> such >>> an extreme measure. >>> >>> --- >>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >>> Libertarian National Committee >>> 317-850-0726 Cell >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: >>> >>> > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you >>> verify those discussions? >>> > >>> > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two >>> weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. >>> > >>> > * Gavel in austin, no matter what >>> > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even >>> nominated with enough tokens >>> > * Hijack the convention and force everything online >>> > Etc >>> > Etc >>> > Etc >>> > >>> > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have been >>> put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of >>> what >>> our chair might do dictating actions of this board. >>> > >>> > We have procedures. >>> > They should be followed. >>> > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. >>> > >>> > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from >>> office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules >>> to >>> have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. >>> > >>> > Richard Longstreth >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>> > Libertarian National Committee >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org >>> > 931.538.9300 >>> > >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device >>> > >>> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein < sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote: >>> > >>> > Richard, >>> > >>> > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a >>> contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not >>> preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option >>> if he >>> does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms >>> forever. >>> > >>> > Sincerely, >>> > >>> > --- >>> > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member >>> > Libertarian National Committee >>> > 317-850-0726 Cell >>> > >>> > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: >>> > I want to be clear here: >>> > >>> > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract that >>> was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday >>> as >>> recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not >>> yet >>> ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that >>> he will >>> not sign. >>> > >>> > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the contract >>> once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do >>> the >>> motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before >>> the >>> horse right now. >>> > Richard Longstreth >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>> > Libertarian National Committee >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org >>> > 931.538.9300 >>> > >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device >>> > >>> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel >>> contract. >>> > >>> > Sam Goldstein >>> > >>> > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> > >>> > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal council, >>> > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and >>> > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could >>> > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a >>> > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the >>> > information, from all sides, then we can make the best recommendations. >>> > >>> > In Liberty, >>> > >>> > Steven Nekhaila >>> > Region 2 Representative >>> > Libertarian National Committee >>> > >>> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>> > >>> > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: >>> >> I change my vote to no. >>> >> >>> >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing >>> >> mountains >>> >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies >>> >> noted >>> >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to >>> >> read >>> >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to sign >>> >> now. >>> >> >>> >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to me >>> >> based >>> >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing anybody to >>> >> do >>> >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all concerns >>> >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change back >>> >> to >>> >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on >>> >> this >>> >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of where >>> >> we >>> >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. >>> >> >>> >> Richard Longstreth >>> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) >>> >> Libertarian National Committee >>> >> richard.longstreth@lp.org >>> >> 931.538.9300 >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my Mobile Device >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < >>> >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I vote No >>> >>> >>> >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that this >>> >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been >>> >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the convention >>> >>> that >>> >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list upset >>> >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its an >>> >>> issue >>> >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a >>> >>> final >>> >>> version yet. >>> >>> >>> >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday >>> >>> morning >>> >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained >>> >>> council, >>> >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable contract >>> >>> with >>> >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. >>> >>> >>> >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the >>> >>> members >>> >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story >>> >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine and >>> >>> ready >>> >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed privately. >>> >>> >>> >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable >>> >>> review >>> >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. >>> >>> >>> >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my >>> >>> replacement >>> >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a pleasure to >>> >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would not be >>> >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC members. >>> >>> The >>> >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish >>> >>> factionalism >>> >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could >>> >>> benefit >>> >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization that >>> >>> you >>> >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every >>> >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board the >>> >>> past >>> >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have to >>> >>> explain our conduct. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Justin O'Donnell >>> >>> LNC Region 8 Representative >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < >>> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I vote Aye. >>> >>> >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> >>> >>> Steven Nekhaila >>> >>> Region 2 Representative >>> >>> Libertarian National Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt >>> >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: >>> >>>> I vote yes. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -Joshua >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business >>> >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 >>> >>>>> pm >>> >>>>> Pacific time. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, >>> >>>>> Merced, >>> >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> ============================================= >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando >>> >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight >>> >>>>> Committee. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> ============================================= >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>

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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

-- *Whitney Bilyeu* Libertarian National Committee Region 7 Representative 281.433.4966 LP.ORG

-- *Whitney Bilyeu* Libertarian National Committee Region 7 Representative 281.433.4966 LP.ORG

No one wants the power struggles. I invite you to call me to discuss 561-523-2250 On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 4:10 PM joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I vote yes.

I do so with reluctance. If this motion passes, and everyone persists in their positions, we may end up with two contracts competing for legitimacy, with a predictable round of escalation after that. (The hotel may well refuse to countersign until we sort it out.) In a way, I agree with the ends of both perspectives here but disagree with the means. I think the LNC should decide when to cancel our convention, a precedent I considered established by our May 2 vote to cancel the Austin contract. But I also think that our internal policy on that should be decided by the LNC, not "decided" by being inserted into a contract with a third party by a subgroup of LNC members (whether 1 or 4). I say this despite agreeing with the particular policy that the COC inserted (majority of LNC can cancel). Additionally, our policy requiring COC approval of the convention contract is clear to me.

My suggestion is that the version of the contract negotiated with the hotel without the additional COC language be the version that is signed, and that this Committee adopt a policy containing the language inserted by the COC. I would also prefer that we define objective criteria for triggering cancellation in this current situation so that people can have some certainty about our decision-making process. This will avoid conflicting contracts, ease fears about unilateral cancellation of the contract, avoid the next round of escalation, and get us functioning together again. But it will require both the COC and the Chair to back down from absolutist positions.

I'm voting yes here because that's the only way to keep the path open to pursue such an approach. I also do so in the hope that past this motion, a majority of this Committee is ready to end the power struggles and get off the brink, and move forward in a constructive manner.

JBH

On May 31, 2020 3:38 PM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I change my vote to yes. === Because of the chair's excessive posturing and notes that he will not follow our policy manual in terms of signing the approved contract from the COC,

And because the chair has indicated a desire to sign an unapproved contract despite being reminded of clear policy manual requirements,

And because we need to finalize arrangements with the hotel by tomorrow

I change my vote to yes.

I have given Mr Sarwark plenty of time to consider his duties. I have tried to give the benefit of the doubt that a better contract would yield his participation and adherence to our policies. I am at this point convinced that we have the best possible contract in front of us, including the new COC edits to empower the LNC to cancel. The risk is minimal to the party. Whatever the game here is, I am no longer willing to give Mr. Sarwark any more time and change my vote to yes so that obstructionist behavior can be overcome and this party can hopefully (and finally) move forward.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

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On Sun, May 31, 2020, 12:18 Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu@lp.org> wrote:

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Correction on my last email to Richard: typo on my part.

Richard, it is my understanding that Nick stated he won't be signing the COC-approved version, and will only sign the one that DOES NOT require LNC approval for cancellation. So, I want to be sure you are aware of that when you vote.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 2:00 PM Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu@lp.org> wrote:

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Richard, it is my understanding that Nick stated he won't be signing the COC-approved version, and will only sign the one that requires LNC approval for cancellation. So, I want to be sure you are aware of that when you vote.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:08 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Region 1 has been very split on this issue with many urging to support and at least as many urging not to support. As a result of the split in the region and the vote now being moot due to the chair indicating he will sign and turn in by tomorrow, I change my vote to abstain.

I would like to see and discuss a change to the policy manual for a more permanent adjustment in our practices. If a future chair becomes temporarily incapacitated, I do think it important that we have a way to continue forward on such matters and we shouldn't leave it to a future LNC to come up with the solution if we see the opportunity now.

Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Sat, May 30, 2020, 19:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It is fully up to date. If you think I missed someone please let me know.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:

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When will the tally be updated on this vote?

Erin Adams Region 7 alt.

On May 29, 2020 5:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

It is good that we will have this in pocket though it looks like the chair will now do his duty and sign which is far preferable.

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 3:54 PM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Hello All, > > For some reason my Yes vote was not recorded, I intended to vote Yes > when Mr. Merced offered his signature, as I believe the Vice Chair is > the one who ought to legally be permitted to act in lieu of the Chair. > > In Liberty, > > Steven Nekhaila > Region 2 Representative > Libertarian National Committee > > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > > On 2020-05-25 05:15 PM, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: > > Yes, in case the case does not sign the contract we have a fall back > > procedure with buyin from the LNC. > > > > --- > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > > Libertarian National Committee > > 317-850-0726 Cell > > > > On 2020-05-25 15:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > >> And it is not our normal procedure for the LNC to approve the > >> contract. > >> Where did that comes from? > >> > >> The prior motions all approved the venue and authorized the chair to > >> sign > >> on favorable terms. > >> > >> Are we adding new procedure now? > >> > >> On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:14 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < > >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> > >>> Richard, > >>> > >>> You will have to take my word for it since he express that thought to > >>> me > >>> in a private telephone conversation about two weeks ago. And this > >>> motion does not preclude the Chair from signing the final version of > >>> the > >>> contract if he changes his mind. I am not advocating removing him > >>> from > >>> office and would have to do very hard thinking before I voted for > >>> such > >>> an extreme measure. > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > >>> Libertarian National Committee > >>> 317-850-0726 Cell > >>> > >>> On 2020-05-25 13:15, Richard Longstreth wrote: > >>> > >>> > I'm glad he told you Sam, but he didn't tell me or this body. Can you > >>> verify those discussions? > >>> > > >>> > Because I've heard a lot about what the chair will do in the last two > >>> weeks and not a lick of it has come to pass. > >>> > > >>> > * Gavel in austin, no matter what > >>> > * Be amash's VP, then amash dropped out and Sarwark wasn't even > >>> nominated with enough tokens > >>> > * Hijack the convention and force everything online > >>> > Etc > >>> > Etc > >>> > Etc > >>> > > >>> > Our chair is no saint. I can confirm some of the things that have > been > >>> put out there that atest to his character, but I am tired of fear of > >>> what > >>> our chair might do dictating actions of this board. > >>> > > >>> > We have procedures. > >>> > They should be followed. > >>> > If they are not, the LNC can then react appropriately. > >>> > > >>> > Believe me. I will be one of the first to motion to remove Nick from > >>> office if he refuses to sign but just like we had to follow our rules > >>> to > >>> have an in person. We need to follow then now for contract approval. > >>> > > >>> > Richard Longstreth > >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > >>> > Libertarian National Committee > >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org > >>> > 931.538.9300 > >>> > > >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 10:04 Sam Goldstein < sam.goldstein@lp.org> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Richard, > >>> > > >>> > The Chair told me in no uncertain terms that he would not sign a > >>> contract for an in person convention this year. This motion does not > >>> preclude him from changing his mind but does allow the LNC an option > >>> if he > >>> does not. The hotel is not going to keep a block on our rooms > >>> forever. > >>> > > >>> > Sincerely, > >>> > > >>> > --- > >>> > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > >>> > Libertarian National Committee > >>> > 317-850-0726 Cell > >>> > > >>> > On 2020-05-25 12:24, Richard Longstreth wrote: > >>> > I want to be clear here: > >>> > > >>> > I read this motion as authorizing any officer to sign the contract > that > >>> was recommended by the COC. So far we have only the one from Saturday > >>> as > >>> recommended by them and there are concerns. The time to sign is not > >>> yet > >>> ripe and the chair indicated he will not be in attendance, not that > >>> he will > >>> not sign. > >>> > > >>> > I think a better way to do this is to have the LNC approve the > contract > >>> once concerns are resolved, ask Nick to sign, if he refuses, then do > >>> the > >>> motion we are debating now. I think we are putting the cart before > >>> the > >>> horse right now. > >>> > Richard Longstreth > >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > >>> > Libertarian National Committee > >>> > richard.longstreth@lp.org > >>> > 931.538.9300 > >>> > > >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, May 25, 2020, 09:09 sam.goldstein--- via Lnc-business < > >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> > The motion Daniel referred to is the AV contract, not the hotel > >>> contract. > >>> > > >>> > Sam Goldstein > >>> > > >>> > On May 25, 2020 11:59 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > I would suggest that the LNC meet with Oliver Hall, our legal > council, > >>> > under executive session in order to be briefed on any concerns and > >>> > insights that we should be made aware. At that point, the body could > >>> > consult with the CoC in a separate session, and then come to a > >>> > conclusion on our next course of action. Once we have all of the > >>> > information, from all sides, then we can make the best > recommendations. > >>> > > >>> > In Liberty, > >>> > > >>> > Steven Nekhaila > >>> > Region 2 Representative > >>> > Libertarian National Committee > >>> > > >>> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > >>> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > >>> > > >>> > On 2020-05-25 11:31 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote: > >>> >> I change my vote to no. > >>> >> > >>> >> This motion came quickly and after combing through and reviewing > >>> >> mountains > >>> >> of emails received throughout this weekend, I see the discrepancies > >>> >> noted > >>> >> by Mr O'Donnell. Further, I misunderstood this motion. I took it to > >>> >> read > >>> >> that any officer could sign when the time was appropriate, not to > sign > >>> >> now. > >>> >> > >>> >> While Nick has made it clear that he will not sign the contract to > me > >>> >> based > >>> >> on his remarks and behavior at the e-convention, authorizing > anybody to > >>> >> do > >>> >> so right now is a mistake until it is fully finalized and all > concerns > >>> >> addressed. If that happens before this vote expires, I will change > back > >>> >> to > >>> >> yes. I realize the convention was busy for many and encourage all on > >>> >> this > >>> >> body to read the relevant emails to gain a full understanding of > where > >>> >> we > >>> >> stand. I don't think we are ready to sign yet. > >>> >> > >>> >> Richard Longstreth > >>> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) > >>> >> Libertarian National Committee > >>> >> richard.longstreth@lp.org > >>> >> 931.538.9300 > >>> >> > >>> >> Sent from my Mobile Device > >>> >> > >>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2020, 08:07 justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < > >>> >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>> I vote No > >>> >>> > >>> >>> At 4:17 PM sunday, Mr. Hayes sent us all an email admitting that > this > >>> >>> contract had not yet been reviewed. As the revisions had just been > >>> >>> recieved, despite his insistance while speaking during the > convention > >>> >>> that > >>> >>> it was rock solid and had been reviewed and cleared. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Mr. Goldstein has been posting on social media and on this list > upset > >>> >>> about the leak of confidential contract information, claiming its > an > >>> >>> issue > >>> >>> because the contract is still being negotiated and we dont have a > >>> >>> final > >>> >>> version yet. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> The contract that was provided to the LNC Via Email on Saturday > >>> >>> morning > >>> >>> was quickly followed by remarks from Mr. Hall, the LNC's retained > >>> >>> council, > >>> >>> advising of what was in his opinion an incredibly unfavorable > contract > >>> >>> with > >>> >>> regards to riak assignment to the LNC given the circumstances. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I could be convinced to change my vote to yes, but not until the > >>> >>> members > >>> >>> of the CoC get on the same page and start spinning the same story > >>> >>> consistently at least, rather than insisting the contract is fine > and > >>> >>> ready > >>> >>> during public debate but admitting it hasnt been reviewed > privately. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I will also wait until the contract is returned with a favorable > >>> >>> review > >>> >>> from our attorney, Mr. Hall. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On a side note, Region 8 will be holding an election for my > >>> >>> replacement > >>> >>> electronically next Week, I wish I could say it had been a > pleasure to > >>> >>> serve with everyone on this board, but unfortunately that would > not be > >>> >>> displaying the same level of honesty I'll asking of the CoC > members. > >>> >>> The > >>> >>> last few months this board has been torn apart with childish > >>> >>> factionalism > >>> >>> and idiotic conflicts of personal natures. Many on this board could > >>> >>> benefit > >>> >>> from a re-reading of Non-Violent communication, and a realization > that > >>> >>> you > >>> >>> dont need to be so quick to throw a noose over the branch at every > >>> >>> percieved slight. I'm embarrased to have been part of this board > the > >>> >>> past > >>> >>> few months, and I'm ashamed for the members of our party who have > to > >>> >>> explain our conduct. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Regards, > >>> >>> Justin O'Donnell > >>> >>> LNC Region 8 Representative > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On May 25, 2020 10:38 AM, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < > >>> >>> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> I vote Aye. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> In Liberty, > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Steven Nekhaila > >>> >>> Region 2 Representative > >>> >>> Libertarian National Committee > >>> >>> > >>> >>> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt > >>> >>> "Those without power cannot defend freedom" > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 09:56 AM, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: > >>> >>>> I vote yes. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> -Joshua > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> On May 25, 2020 12:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business > >>> >>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at > 11:59:59 > >>> >>>>> pm > >>> >>>>> Pacific time. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, > >>> >>>>> Merced, > >>> >>>>> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> ============================================= > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the > Orlando > >>> >>>>> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight > >>> >>>>> Committee. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> ============================================= > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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> . > >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>>> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > >>> >>>>> verification. You > >>> >>>>> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the > >>> >>>>> bottom of > >>> >>>>> the sheet. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies. > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> * In Liberty,* > >>> >>>>> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's > >>> >>>>> Syndrome > >>> >>>>> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > >>> >>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > >>> >>>>> anyone > >>> >>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other > social > >>> >>>>> faux > >>> >>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me > >>> >>>>> know. * > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

-- *Whitney Bilyeu* Libertarian National Committee Region 7 Representative 281.433.4966 LP.ORG

-- *Whitney Bilyeu* Libertarian National Committee Region 7 Representative 281.433.4966 LP.ORG

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*In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

I vote Yes. Jeff Hewitt region 4 rep On 2020-05-25 20:29, Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business wrote:

Yes.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

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Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... . Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

Sam I updated it yesterday which votes do you believe I am missing? * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:29 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

Ms. Harlos,

The ballot tracker for this motion does not seem up to date. Can you please do so if you have a spare moment so those who have not yet voted as see how the voting stands?

Thanks,

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-27 00:11, Jeff Hewitt via Lnc-business wrote:

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I vote Yes. Jeff Hewitt region 4 rep

On 2020-05-25 20:29, Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business wrote:

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Yes.

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 12:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

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Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

Wrong. Nice try. It applies to any Orlando contract. Your gamesmanship notwithstanding. I hate to say it but the social media moniker of Czarwark is apt. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:12 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

Why would that be since we never took a vote on that contract. The only one that we have take a formal vote on and approved for your signature is the one sent to you last night You are grasping at straws here.

Sign or resign.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-31 18:58, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:

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Just as a heads up, this motion would of course apply to the contract recommended as of May 25, 2020.

Yours truly, Nick

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

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Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

It sounds like you're claiming that LNC members could vote on a motion and have the subject of the motion change after the voting started. Absent Vermin Supreme's time machine, that seems problematic. -Nick On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 7:21 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I would also add that I and Alex negotiated further on the contract after this motion so the intent and understanding is clear, the desperation of the chair notwithstanding.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:19 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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Wrong. Nice try. It applies to any Orlando contract. Your gamesmanship notwithstanding. I hate to say it but the social media moniker of Czarwark is apt.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:12 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Why would that be since we never took a vote on that contract. The only one that we have take a formal vote on and approved for your signature is the one sent to you last night You are grasping at straws here.

Sign or resign.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-31 18:58, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:

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Just as a heads up, this motion would of course apply to the contract recommended as of May 25, 2020.

Yours truly, Nick

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.

Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith

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Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee.

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THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority

You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

Yes we are, and yes we will, the games of the chair notwithstanding. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:38 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

Your opinion is duly noted. The subject did not change.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:28 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It sounds like you're claiming that LNC members could vote on a motion and have the subject of the motion change after the voting started. Absent Vermin Supreme's time machine, that seems problematic.

-Nick

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 7:21 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I would also add that I and Alex negotiated further on the contract after this motion so the intent and understanding is clear, the desperation of the chair notwithstanding.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:19 PM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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Wrong. Nice try. It applies to any Orlando contract. Your gamesmanship notwithstanding. I hate to say it but the social media moniker of Czarwark is apt.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:12 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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Why would that be since we never took a vote on that contract. The only one that we have take a formal vote on and approved for your signature is the one sent to you last night You are grasping at straws here.

Sign or resign.

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-31 18:58, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:

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Just as a heads up, this motion would of course apply to the contract recommended as of May 25, 2020.

Yours truly, Nick

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, > Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...

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> . > Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > verification. You > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom > of > the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social > faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. > * >

11:59 tonight. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 6:29 PM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:

I believe the vote on this ballot is now 11-1-0 with Mr. Bishop-Henchman voting Yes.

At what time does voting on this ballot end?

--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-31 19:38, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

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Yes we are, and yes we will, the games of the chair notwithstanding.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:38 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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Your opinion is duly noted. The subject did not change.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:28 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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It sounds like you're claiming that LNC members could vote on a motion and have the subject of the motion change after the voting started. Absent Vermin Supreme's time machine, that seems problematic.

-Nick

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 7:21 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

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I would also add that I and Alex negotiated further on the contract after this motion so the intent and understanding is clear, the desperation of the chair notwithstanding.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:19 PM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:

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Wrong. Nice try. It applies to any Orlando contract. Your gamesmanship notwithstanding. I hate to say it but the social media moniker of Czarwark is apt.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 5:12 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Why would that be since we never took a vote on that contract. The only > one that we have take a formal vote on and approved for your signature > is the one sent to you last night You are grasping at straws here. > > Sign or resign. > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee > 317-850-0726 Cell > > On 2020-05-31 18:58, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote: > > Just as a heads up, this motion would of course apply to the contract > > recommended as of May 25, 2020. > > > > Yours truly, > > Nick > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 1:11 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > >> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >> > >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 31, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > >> Pacific time. > >> > >> Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, Merced, > >> Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith > >> > >> ============================================= > >> > >> > >> Motion: Move to authorize any Party officer to execute the Orlando > >> convention contract recommended by the Convention Oversight Committee. > >> > >> ============================================= > >> > >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > >> > >> > >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >> > >> >

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> >> . > >> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for > >> verification. You > >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom > >> of > >> the sheet. > >> > >> > >> Please notify me of any discrepancies. > >> > >> * In Liberty,* > >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > >> anyone > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social > >> faux > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. > >> * > >> >

-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *