Request for sponsors - appeal of ruling of chair that Email ballot 200603-01 is out of order
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4. I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun? --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
No idea but he says he can, so this is to jump through the demanded hoops. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:47 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
John I advise you to sponsor anyway. We should not have to worry about whether or not an argument will be made that the policy manual change cannot affect existing contracts. I hate that I have to think like this, but I do. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:55 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I may, but I will hold off until the end of policy manual vote, if that passes I am willing to stop fighting amongst ourselves and move on rather than beating my head on the wall.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 12, 2020 10:32 AM, "joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I will co-Sponsor
-Joshua
On Jun 12, 2020 6:50 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
No idea but he says he can, so this is to jump through the demanded hoops.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:47 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
correction - at least two days. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out of order rarely happens. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
correction - at least two days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote: Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees too) so a policy would be helpful IMHO *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out of order rarely happens.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
correction - at least two days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote: Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I will co-sponsor an appeal of the ruling. It was a pretty silly ruling that most of us didn't take very seriously, but let's not leave the argument hanging unaddressed. -Alicia On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees too) so a policy would be helpful IMHO
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out of order rarely happens.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
correction - at least two days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote: Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I consider this to be a waste of the LNC's time since the motion in this case was passed overwhelmingly but if we have to take this action then I'll co-sponsor the motion to overturn the very belated ruling of the Chair. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-06-12 21:18, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
I will co-sponsor an appeal of the ruling. It was a pretty silly ruling that most of us didn't take very seriously, but let's not leave the argument hanging unaddressed.
-Alicia
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees too) so a policy would be helpful IMHO
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out of order rarely happens.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
correction - at least two days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote: Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
THIS, the issue that Mr Hagan identifies, has also long bothered me. We’ve faced this same issue at the state level. There’s no way in a ftf meeting that a motion can just *appear* and be voted on without any guidance from the Chair. That’s what the Chair is *for* imo. Perhaps our procedure should be tweaked to require that the Chair promote a motion to ‘voting’ status within a certain time of it gaining the correct sponsorship. This will give the Chair an opportunity to rule it out of order if he feels it to be so.
On Jun 12, 2020 at 12:11 PM, <Tim Hagan via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org)> wrote:
With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: > How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after > voting on it has begun? > > --- > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee
Susan Jane Hogarth Region 5 Alternate 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
In this case, it was two days fully sponsored before a ballot started. More than enough time. Which is why I agree with Mr Goldstein that the late in the game ruling was not legitimate. I’m appealing as it’s quicker than arguing about the legitimacy of waiting four days after becoming aware of the the motion to rule on it. On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 5:59 PM Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
THIS, the issue that Mr Hagan identifies, has also long bothered me. We’ve faced this same issue at the state level. There’s no way in a ftf meeting that a motion can just *appear* and be voted on without any guidance from the Chair. That’s what the Chair is *for* imo. Perhaps our procedure should be tweaked to require that the Chair promote a motion to ‘voting’ status within a certain time of it gaining the correct sponsorship. This will give the Chair an opportunity to rule it out of order if he feels it to be so.
On Jun 12, 2020 at 12:11 PM, <Tim Hagan via Lnc-business (mailto:
lnc-business@hq.lp.org)> wrote:
With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states
and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: > How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after > voting on it has begun? > > ---
Sam Goldstein, At Large Member > Libertarian National Committee
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
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*In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
participants (8)
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Alicia Mattson -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
john.phillips＠lp.org -
joshua.smith＠lp.org -
Sam Goldstein -
Susan Hogarth -
Tim Hagan