Appreciation for new LNC page map showing regions and regional reps
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature! I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/califo...). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there really a plan to do so. Unless there's a major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different state affiliates. The affiliate website sites should always have the most up-to-date contact information for themselves. If state affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been building sites for state parties. In the past I've called the National office to ask that information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the state website. The state contacts on the old LP.org are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national- committee/) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature!
I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp. org:80/state/california/). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
Love & Liberty,
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I can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought to ask the state affiliates themselves and see how they feel about it. If they agree with you that it's better to just let people click on their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd like to have their state-level contacts listed directly on the LP.org site and commit to keeping that information updated, we ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though, wasn't the default supposed to be that all information from the old site gets ported over unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop something? Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there really a plan to do so. Unless there's a major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different state affiliates. The affiliate website sites should always have the most up-to-date contact information for themselves. If state affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been building sites for state parties.
In the past I've called the National office to ask that information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the state website. The state contacts on the old LP.org are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature!
I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/califo...). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
Love & Liberty,
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Honestly Starchild, As chair of the Affiliate Support Committee, I am much more aware of how quickly the list of who is in what "chair" changes. It's a lot. It's more than just with their conventions. People burn out and/or move. It really probably puts the states more in control the way Ken is talking about. Daniel Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 5, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
I can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought to ask the state affiliates themselves and see how they feel about it. If they agree with you that it's better to just let people click on their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd like to have their state-level contacts listed directly on the LP.org site and commit to keeping that information updated, we ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though, wasn't the default supposed to be that all information from the old site gets ported over unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop something?
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there really a plan to do so. Unless there's a major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different state affiliates. The affiliate website sites should always have the most up-to-date contact information for themselves. If state affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been building sites for state parties.
In the past I've called the National office to ask that information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the state website. The state contacts on the old LP.org are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature!
I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/califo...). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
Love & Liberty,
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We saved all of the News, the Blog Entries, and the Press Releases. It was about 2300 pages of content, as I recall. Regular pages were mostly replaced with new content. Unlike the content types listed above, the regular pages had no history and were just a "whatever was there last" type page. Those were replaced with new content on the new site. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Honestly Starchild,
As chair of the Affiliate Support Committee, I am much more aware of how quickly the list of who is in what "chair" changes. It's a lot. It's more than just with their conventions. People burn out and/or move.
It really probably puts the states more in control the way Ken is talking about.
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 5, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
I can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought to ask the state affiliates themselves and see how they feel about it. If they agree with you that it's better to just let people click on their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd like to have their state-level contacts listed directly on the LP.org site and commit to keeping that information updated, we ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though, wasn't the default supposed to be that all information from the old site gets ported over unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop something?
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there really a plan to do so. Unless there's a major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different state affiliates. The affiliate website sites should always have the most up-to-date contact information for themselves. If state affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been building sites for state parties.
In the past I've called the National office to ask that information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the state website. The state contacts on the old LP.org are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertaria n-national-committee/) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature!
I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20 160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/california/). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
Love & Liberty,
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How to list state party and state chair contact info has varied over the years but I don't think the contacts were actually posted on the previous LP.org website in the detail discussed below. Here were the states: http://old.lp.org/states and here is an example of what was there for Connecticut: http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/ We did not create and publish a list of all 50 states chairs or state parties. Instead, we linked to each of the 50 state websites. Not all 50 states wanted their phones or emails published. The way we handle them on the new website is quite similar to the old. Not saying its the best way, but just wanted to clear things up on the current situation. Contacts for all 50 state parties are posted here: https://lpaction.org/states/ But the state chairs list is password protected: https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/ Wes Benedict, Executive Director Libertarian National Committee, Inc. *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314* (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict@lp.org facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership Starchild wrote on 6/5/2017 8:31 PM:
I can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought to ask the state affiliates themselves and see how they feel about it. If they agree with you that it's better to just let people click on their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd like to have their state-level contacts listed directly on the LP.org <http://LP.org> site and commit to keeping that information updated, we ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though, wasn't the default supposed to be that all information from the old site gets ported over unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop something?
Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net <mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net> (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there really a plan to do so. Unless there's a major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org <http://LP.org> site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different state affiliates. The affiliate website sites should always have the most up-to-date contact information for themselves. If state affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been building sites for state parties.
In the past I've called the National office to ask that information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the state website. The state contacts on the old LP.org <http://LP.org> are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net <mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net>> wrote:
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/ <https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/>) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature!
I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates <https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates>) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org <http://LP.org> (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/califo... <https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/california/>). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
Love & Liberty,
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Thanks, Wes. Given that a list of state party organizations and their contact info exists at https://lpaction.org/states/ , there appears to be a very simple solution to the problem of that information being missing from the State Affiliates page (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) on LP.org – just include a sentence under the map on that page reading, "Click here for a list of Libertarian state party organizations and their contact information," and have that text hyperlinked to https://lpaction.org/states/. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
How to list state party and state chair contact info has varied over the years but I don't think the contacts were actually posted on the previous LP.org website in the detail discussed below. Here were the states: http://old.lp.org/states
and here is an example of what was there for Connecticut: http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/
We did not create and publish a list of all 50 states chairs or state parties. Instead, we linked to each of the 50 state websites. Not all 50 states wanted their phones or emails published. The way we handle them on the new website is quite similar to the old. Not saying its the best way, but just wanted to clear things up on the current situation.
Contacts for all 50 state parties are posted here: https://lpaction.org/states/
But the state chairs list is password protected: https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/ Wes Benedict, Executive Director Libertarian National Committee, Inc. New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict@lp.org facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
Starchild wrote on 6/5/2017 8:31 PM:
I can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought to ask the state affiliates themselves and see how they feel about it. If they agree with you that it's better to just let people click on their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd like to have their state-level contacts listed directly on the LP.org site and commit to keeping that information updated, we ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though, wasn't the default supposed to be that all information from the old site gets ported over unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop something?
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
The information for state party leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there really a plan to do so. Unless there's a major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving the LP.org site simply pointing to the state affiliate's page... That way staff doesn't have to run down new leadership for 50 different state affiliates. The affiliate website sites should always have the most up-to-date contact information for themselves. If state affiliates are struggling with their website, Andy Burns has been building sites for state parties.
In the past I've called the National office to ask that information be corrected for KY. Student group info was always woefully out of date. I think it's best to let the states keep their stuff up to date and just have Nat redirect them to the state website. The state contacts on the old LP.org are probably mostly outdated at this point anyway.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthlink.net> wrote:
By the way, I've been meaning to mention that the interactive map now at the top of the LNC page (https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/) is a great addition to the site. It's nice to be able to quickly see which states are in which regions and who the LNC regional rep. and alternate are for each state. Kudos to whoever added that feature!
I notice the similar and longer-existing Affiliates page map that lets people click on each state's image to access that state party's website (https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates) doesn't list any state-level contact information however – has that information not been ported over from the old version of the website yet? Names and contact info for Libertarian student groups used to appear on the state party pages on LP.org (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/califo...). Having at least one state-level leadership contact for each state listed on the Affiliates page would seem to be in order.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
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