draft minutes of 11/14/15 LNC session
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando. Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5. A brownie point opportunity is knocking... Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary
If I remember correctly, Mr. Sarwark could not resume the gavel because Mr. Katz blew up the gavel with his finger lasers during the polka dancing. Tim Hagan From: Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> To: lnc-business <lnc-business@lp.org> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:51 PM Subject: [Lnc-business] draft minutes of 11/14/15 LNC session Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando. Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5. A brownie point opportunity is knocking... Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
It did take him a couple of practice shots to get the hang of aiming those things. I'll update the minutes and record your point. -Alicia On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Mr. Sarwark could not resume the gavel because Mr. Katz blew up the gavel with his finger lasers during the polka dancing.
Tim Hagan
------------------------------ *From:* Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> *To:* lnc-business <lnc-business@lp.org> *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 10:51 PM *Subject:* [Lnc-business] draft minutes of 11/14/15 LNC session
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando.
Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5.
A brownie point opportunity is knocking...
Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
Ms. Secretary, You neglected to report the arrival of the FBI and FAA follwing Mr. Katz's miserable attempt to highlight the polka episode with his new finger lasers during Weird Al's pro tem Chairmanship. Respectfully Submitted, Sam Goldstein On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando.
Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5.
A brownie point opportunity is knocking...
Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
Dear LNC, It occurs to me that since we passed the following amendment to the policy manual: *Employment agreements with bonus provisions based on revenues shall exclude convention and bequest revenues. * that the Chair, in setting revenue goals for staff bonuses ouught to exclude those numbers which are included in the budget's projected income. Live Free, Sam Goldstein On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando.
Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5.
A brownie point opportunity is knocking...
Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
That would be reasonable for years after 2016. The current ED contract (which is not subject to the new policy due to the proviso) does not exclude convention revenues. That contract expires June 30, 2016, and the convention revenues will occur before the contract expires. For 2016, the convention revenues ought to be included in the target revenue calculations because they're included in the existing contract, and the cumulative figures from the first two quarters will roll over into the 3rd and 4th quarters. -Alicia On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear LNC,
It occurs to me that since we passed the following amendment to the policy manual:
*Employment agreements with bonus provisions based on revenues shall exclude convention and bequest revenues. *
that the Chair, in setting revenue goals for staff bonuses ouught to exclude those numbers which are included in the budget's projected income.
Live Free,
Sam Goldstein
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando.
Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5.
A brownie point opportunity is knocking...
Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature: I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance): 1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional) 2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance) 3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways) 4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets) There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives.
My suggestions: 1. A broad economic liberty piece. 2. A broad civil liberties piece. 3. A broad piece regarding freedom "across the board." 4. 2nd Amendment piece (for gun show outreach) 5. Campus freedom piece (for on-campus outreach) 6. An "open for business" piece tailored toward the issues faced by small business owners. 7. A Spanish language piece (possibly just a translation of #3 above) 8. A Spanish language piece specific to issues important in the Hispanic community (immigration/freedom of movement, economic opportunity, "flex your rights") 9. A "No Cronies" piece in opposition to cronyism I'm sure I could come up with more, but I think these would be a good start, covering many topics and offering some literature specific to some of our most popular outreach activities. Brett C. Bittner Region 3 Alternate Libertarian National Committee **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos. On Nov 22, 2015 5:55 PM, "James Lark" <jwl3s@virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature:
I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance):
1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional)
2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance)
3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways)
4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets)
There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives.
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
Hello All . . . A review of the political climate as established by the presidential debates indicates what the hot issues are. Selecting those hot issues which will survive the 2016 Presidential election I get: 1> Government irresponsibility is destroying the economic fabric of our nation. 2> Immigration Reform: Individual Freedom vs Economic & Personal Security 3> War on Terror: How do we provide security without sacrificing our liberties and economic future. 4> Government involvement in education (Common Core and Every Student Succeeds?). If others on this list would convey to me (either directly or on this list) what your four (an arbitrary number I have just picked) topics are your choices for new outreach literature, I will try to compile a list from which we can choose five via some variation of approval voting using e-mail. This process is about making some choices. Please deliberate carefully and limit your suggestions to a reasonable number. One of our goals, indeed the easiest to achieve of our six goals, is “Updated issue-based outreach literature”. If we fail to meet this relatively easy goal, the only excuse is neglect. Let’s get busy on this. Staff has suggested that they can do the heavy lifting; all we need to do is provide some direction. Norm PS> I apologize for my delay in making my choices. My family’s holiday get-together was over the Thanksgiving weekend, and this item fell in the crack during my travels. -- Norman T Olsen Regional Representative, Region 1 Libertarian National Committee 7931 South Broadway, PMB 102 Littleton, CO 80122-2710 303-263-4995 From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Brett Bittner Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:44 PM To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Suggestions regarding LP outreach literature My suggestions: 1. A broad economic liberty piece. 2. A broad civil liberties piece. 3. A broad piece regarding freedom "across the board." 4. 2nd Amendment piece (for gun show outreach) 5. Campus freedom piece (for on-campus outreach) 6. An "open for business" piece tailored toward the issues faced by small business owners. 7. A Spanish language piece (possibly just a translation of #3 above) 8. A Spanish language piece specific to issues important in the Hispanic community (immigration/freedom of movement, economic opportunity, "flex your rights") 9. A "No Cronies" piece in opposition to cronyism I'm sure I could come up with more, but I think these would be a good start, covering many topics and offering some literature specific to some of our most popular outreach activities. Brett C. Bittner Region 3 Alternate Libertarian National Committee **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos. On Nov 22, 2015 5:55 PM, "James Lark" <jwl3s@virginia.edu> wrote: Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature: I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance): 1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional) 2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance) 3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways) 4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets) There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives. _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
I don't yet have my final recommendations, but I want to make an observation. It seems to me that there are at least 3 approaches to this, and likely more: 1. Choose current "hot button" issues - that is, what people are already interested in and talking about. 2. Choose "wedge" issues - things people are interested in, perhaps not their highest priority, but topics on which the LP has something unique to say that will likely be more popular than what comes from others. 3. Look to our own past messaging and consider which topics have been most successful. In its simplest form, this would mean looking at a bunch of FB posts and measuring likes. I would suggest that, while 1 is the most obvious answer, 2 might be position us in a stronger way. I don't know if it helps us all that much to message on a really popular hot-button issue if our position is likely to not be the most popular, or to be so unpopular as to chase people away. Of course, maybe a 1-issue can become a 2-issue with clever enough packaging. The counter-argument, of course, is that if we have a 1-issue where our position is unpopular, and which is critically important for freedom is this land, we should message it hard in order to change the dialogue. I don't find that a particularly viable answer, though, for at least 3 reasons. First, I don't think we're loud enough to succeed in that. Second, we can do the most to move policy by being persuasive, not shocking for its own sake - our job is to build support for our candidates, not to actively push people away from their campaigns. Third, we'd be trying to change the dialogue against high leverage. In a 2-issue situation, on the other hand, we still have the opportunity to reshape the dialogue on an issue, but to do so with the benefit of high leverage. Messaging hard on 2-issues is like, in my mind, having a runaway truck heading downhill at high speed, and trying to change the angle at which it goes down the hill, while 1-issues is like trying to turn it all the way around and have it fall uphill. Disclaimer: That isn't to say we have to treat 1-issues where our position is unpopular as poison, just a suggestion as to where they sit in the hierarchy of priorities. PS: Of course, I also prefer to message on issues that translate well to races where our candidates are strongest. Some national issues can be easily made to "drip down" to any race, some cannot, and if we focus on the ones that can, we gain the advantages of a symbiotic relationship, so to speak. Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat) On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Norm Olsen <region1rep@donedad.com> wrote:
Hello All . . .
A review of the political climate as established by the presidential debates indicates what the hot issues are. Selecting those hot issues which will survive the 2016 Presidential election I get:
1> Government irresponsibility is destroying the economic fabric of our nation.
2> Immigration Reform: Individual Freedom vs Economic & Personal Security
3> War on Terror: How do we provide security without sacrificing our liberties and economic future.
4> Government involvement in education (Common Core and Every Student Succeeds?).
If others on this list would convey to me (either directly or on this list) what your four (an arbitrary number I have just picked) topics are your choices for new outreach literature, I will try to compile a list from which we can choose five via some variation of approval voting using e-mail. This process is about making some choices. Please deliberate carefully and limit your suggestions to a reasonable number.
One of our goals, indeed the easiest to achieve of our six goals, is “Updated issue-based outreach literature”. If we fail to meet this relatively easy goal, the only excuse is neglect. Let’s get busy on this. Staff has suggested that they can do the heavy lifting; all we need to do is provide some direction.
Norm
PS> I apologize for my delay in making my choices. My family’s holiday get-together was over the Thanksgiving weekend, and this item fell in the crack during my travels.
--
Norman T Olsen
Regional Representative, Region 1
Libertarian National Committee
7931 South Broadway, PMB 102
Littleton, CO 80122-2710
303-263-4995
*From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Brett Bittner *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:44 PM *To:* lnc-business@hq.lp.org *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Suggestions regarding LP outreach literature
My suggestions:
1. A broad economic liberty piece. 2. A broad civil liberties piece. 3. A broad piece regarding freedom "across the board." 4. 2nd Amendment piece (for gun show outreach) 5. Campus freedom piece (for on-campus outreach) 6. An "open for business" piece tailored toward the issues faced by small business owners. 7. A Spanish language piece (possibly just a translation of #3 above) 8. A Spanish language piece specific to issues important in the Hispanic community (immigration/freedom of movement, economic opportunity, "flex your rights") 9. A "No Cronies" piece in opposition to cronyism
I'm sure I could come up with more, but I think these would be a good start, covering many topics and offering some literature specific to some of our most popular outreach activities.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Alternate Libertarian National Committee
**This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
On Nov 22, 2015 5:55 PM, "James Lark" <jwl3s@virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature:
I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance):
1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional)
2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance)
3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways)
4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets)
There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives.
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
Thanks all for your fine suggestions. I'm working on several of these now. I will present them in the form of Libertarian solutions, which includes: 1. what government is doing now, enacted by Ds and Rs, that is causing the problem. 2. the Libertarian solution and specific actions we can take to correct them (repeal, withdraw, dereg, dismantle, reduce, etc). This is where we differentiate ourselves from the Ds and Rs. 3. the copious, attractive benefits to voters that will result I note that almost all Libertarian issues are wedge issues. Even where we appear to be aligned with Ds and Rs, they not only refuse to implement our shared goals, they usually vote and act against them. I plan to add a talking point on government *financial* transparency, but this again needs to be presented as a wedge issue. While Ds and Rs frequently claim to support transparency, they refuse to do anything meaningful about it, and therefore encourage it. It's not the very most urgent voter issue. But the fact that our opponents regularly give it lip service suggests their polling tells them it's a concern of many voters. Carla Carla Howell "The (government) designed (by our Founding Fathers) has turned into a congealed ball of lard that eats money and excretes red tape." - Scott Adams On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't yet have my final recommendations, but I want to make an observation. It seems to me that there are at least 3 approaches to this, and likely more:
1. Choose current "hot button" issues - that is, what people are already interested in and talking about. 2. Choose "wedge" issues - things people are interested in, perhaps not their highest priority, but topics on which the LP has something unique to say that will likely be more popular than what comes from others. 3. Look to our own past messaging and consider which topics have been most successful. In its simplest form, this would mean looking at a bunch of FB posts and measuring likes.
I would suggest that, while 1 is the most obvious answer, 2 might be position us in a stronger way. I don't know if it helps us all that much to message on a really popular hot-button issue if our position is likely to not be the most popular, or to be so unpopular as to chase people away. Of course, maybe a 1-issue can become a 2-issue with clever enough packaging.
The counter-argument, of course, is that if we have a 1-issue where our position is unpopular, and which is critically important for freedom is this land, we should message it hard in order to change the dialogue. I don't find that a particularly viable answer, though, for at least 3 reasons. First, I don't think we're loud enough to succeed in that. Second, we can do the most to move policy by being persuasive, not shocking for its own sake - our job is to build support for our candidates, not to actively push people away from their campaigns. Third, we'd be trying to change the dialogue against high leverage. In a 2-issue situation, on the other hand, we still have the opportunity to reshape the dialogue on an issue, but to do so with the benefit of high leverage. Messaging hard on 2-issues is like, in my mind, having a runaway truck heading downhill at high speed, and trying to change the angle at which it goes down the hill, while 1-issues is like trying to turn it all the way around and have it fall uphill.
Disclaimer: That isn't to say we have to treat 1-issues where our position is unpopular as poison, just a suggestion as to where they sit in the hierarchy of priorities.
PS: Of course, I also prefer to message on issues that translate well to races where our candidates are strongest. Some national issues can be easily made to "drip down" to any race, some cannot, and if we focus on the ones that can, we gain the advantages of a symbiotic relationship, so to speak.
Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Norm Olsen <region1rep@donedad.com> wrote:
Hello All . . .
A review of the political climate as established by the presidential debates indicates what the hot issues are. Selecting those hot issues which will survive the 2016 Presidential election I get:
1> Government irresponsibility is destroying the economic fabric of our nation.
2> Immigration Reform: Individual Freedom vs Economic & Personal Security
3> War on Terror: How do we provide security without sacrificing our liberties and economic future.
4> Government involvement in education (Common Core and Every Student Succeeds?).
If others on this list would convey to me (either directly or on this list) what your four (an arbitrary number I have just picked) topics are your choices for new outreach literature, I will try to compile a list from which we can choose five via some variation of approval voting using e-mail. This process is about making some choices. Please deliberate carefully and limit your suggestions to a reasonable number.
One of our goals, indeed the easiest to achieve of our six goals, is “Updated issue-based outreach literature”. If we fail to meet this relatively easy goal, the only excuse is neglect. Let’s get busy on this. Staff has suggested that they can do the heavy lifting; all we need to do is provide some direction.
Norm
PS> I apologize for my delay in making my choices. My family’s holiday get-together was over the Thanksgiving weekend, and this item fell in the crack during my travels.
--
Norman T Olsen
Regional Representative, Region 1
Libertarian National Committee
7931 South Broadway, PMB 102
Littleton, CO 80122-2710
303-263-4995
*From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Brett Bittner *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:44 PM *To:* lnc-business@hq.lp.org *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Suggestions regarding LP outreach literature
My suggestions:
1. A broad economic liberty piece. 2. A broad civil liberties piece. 3. A broad piece regarding freedom "across the board." 4. 2nd Amendment piece (for gun show outreach) 5. Campus freedom piece (for on-campus outreach) 6. An "open for business" piece tailored toward the issues faced by small business owners. 7. A Spanish language piece (possibly just a translation of #3 above) 8. A Spanish language piece specific to issues important in the Hispanic community (immigration/freedom of movement, economic opportunity, "flex your rights") 9. A "No Cronies" piece in opposition to cronyism
I'm sure I could come up with more, but I think these would be a good start, covering many topics and offering some literature specific to some of our most popular outreach activities.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Alternate Libertarian National Committee
**This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
On Nov 22, 2015 5:55 PM, "James Lark" <jwl3s@virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature:
I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance):
1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional)
2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance)
3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways)
4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets)
There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives.
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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I agree that, with sufficient creativity, we can find a unique angle or way to "slice" into an issue and make it one that differentiates us. It doesn't follow, I don't think, that all issues are wedge issues, at least not if by wedge issue we mean something where we have something to say that is unique and that people want to hear. Maybe I'm using the word incorrectly. Here's the concept I'm getting at: I can think of three marketing approaches: 1. Selling a product everyone already wants and knows they want, and which is widely available 2. Selling a product everyone already wants and knows they want, and which is hard to find (good position) 3. Selling a product people don't want - then your marketing needs to be centered around convincing people that they should want your product. 3 is a high-risk/high-reward proposition. If you can create a demand no one would have ever thought of (say, Topsy-Tail) you'll do very well. But it's very hard, and certainly not the kind of thing you do by handing someone a rack card or bumper sticker. It's a long-term sales approach. In general, telling people they should want what you're selling, despite the fact that they don't, doesn't work out well. Of course, the way to do it might be to show that the product meets some demand that they know about in a non-obvious way: no one knew they wanted this loop of metal, but they knew they wanted a fast, easy way to make their hair look nice. Maybe we can give an angle on an issue that suddenly changes the mind of someone who looks at our rack cards - in which case, fantastic! However, short of that, what we'd get is a rack card that doesn't sell anything in particular. I repeat my other criteria - our products should be useful to our candidates, meaning they should "work" on a number of levels. I'm trying to stay on topic, but to touch briefly on Mr. Olsen's point in this connection: one issue we run into is the credibility of our claims. That is, even when someone likes what we have to say, it's not obvious that our candidates can achieve it once in office. Sometimes, the fact that others don't just tells someone "that's really hard to do - and that Libertarian has even less support to achieve it!" We are in the unique position of having to convince voters not only that they like what we're selling, but that we can actually deliver the product where others have, to their minds, tried and failed. In that sense, even in the races Dr. Lieberman mentions, people often vote for a party rather than a candidate. Yes, you can get around that by doing things like knocking on every door (in a small enough race, of course) and having a plan that makes you at least appear credible. For higher office, you can establish your credibility by having run for, and won, a lower office, and achieved the things you set out to achieve - hence my comment last week about a "bench." Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat) On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Carla Howell <4smallgov@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks all for your fine suggestions. I'm working on several of these now.
I will present them in the form of Libertarian solutions, which includes: 1. what government is doing now, enacted by Ds and Rs, that is causing the problem. 2. the Libertarian solution and specific actions we can take to correct them (repeal, withdraw, dereg, dismantle, reduce, etc). This is where we differentiate ourselves from the Ds and Rs. 3. the copious, attractive benefits to voters that will result
I note that almost all Libertarian issues are wedge issues. Even where we appear to be aligned with Ds and Rs, they not only refuse to implement our shared goals, they usually vote and act against them.
I plan to add a talking point on government *financial* transparency, but this again needs to be presented as a wedge issue. While Ds and Rs frequently claim to support transparency, they refuse to do anything meaningful about it, and therefore encourage it. It's not the very most urgent voter issue. But the fact that our opponents regularly give it lip service suggests their polling tells them it's a concern of many voters.
Carla
Carla Howell
"The (government) designed (by our Founding Fathers) has turned into a congealed ball of lard that eats money and excretes red tape." - Scott Adams
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't yet have my final recommendations, but I want to make an observation. It seems to me that there are at least 3 approaches to this, and likely more:
1. Choose current "hot button" issues - that is, what people are already interested in and talking about. 2. Choose "wedge" issues - things people are interested in, perhaps not their highest priority, but topics on which the LP has something unique to say that will likely be more popular than what comes from others. 3. Look to our own past messaging and consider which topics have been most successful. In its simplest form, this would mean looking at a bunch of FB posts and measuring likes.
I would suggest that, while 1 is the most obvious answer, 2 might be position us in a stronger way. I don't know if it helps us all that much to message on a really popular hot-button issue if our position is likely to not be the most popular, or to be so unpopular as to chase people away. Of course, maybe a 1-issue can become a 2-issue with clever enough packaging.
The counter-argument, of course, is that if we have a 1-issue where our position is unpopular, and which is critically important for freedom is this land, we should message it hard in order to change the dialogue. I don't find that a particularly viable answer, though, for at least 3 reasons. First, I don't think we're loud enough to succeed in that. Second, we can do the most to move policy by being persuasive, not shocking for its own sake - our job is to build support for our candidates, not to actively push people away from their campaigns. Third, we'd be trying to change the dialogue against high leverage. In a 2-issue situation, on the other hand, we still have the opportunity to reshape the dialogue on an issue, but to do so with the benefit of high leverage. Messaging hard on 2-issues is like, in my mind, having a runaway truck heading downhill at high speed, and trying to change the angle at which it goes down the hill, while 1-issues is like trying to turn it all the way around and have it fall uphill.
Disclaimer: That isn't to say we have to treat 1-issues where our position is unpopular as poison, just a suggestion as to where they sit in the hierarchy of priorities.
PS: Of course, I also prefer to message on issues that translate well to races where our candidates are strongest. Some national issues can be easily made to "drip down" to any race, some cannot, and if we focus on the ones that can, we gain the advantages of a symbiotic relationship, so to speak.
Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Norm Olsen <region1rep@donedad.com> wrote:
Hello All . . .
A review of the political climate as established by the presidential debates indicates what the hot issues are. Selecting those hot issues which will survive the 2016 Presidential election I get:
1> Government irresponsibility is destroying the economic fabric of our nation.
2> Immigration Reform: Individual Freedom vs Economic & Personal Security
3> War on Terror: How do we provide security without sacrificing our liberties and economic future.
4> Government involvement in education (Common Core and Every Student Succeeds?).
If others on this list would convey to me (either directly or on this list) what your four (an arbitrary number I have just picked) topics are your choices for new outreach literature, I will try to compile a list from which we can choose five via some variation of approval voting using e-mail. This process is about making some choices. Please deliberate carefully and limit your suggestions to a reasonable number.
One of our goals, indeed the easiest to achieve of our six goals, is “Updated issue-based outreach literature”. If we fail to meet this relatively easy goal, the only excuse is neglect. Let’s get busy on this. Staff has suggested that they can do the heavy lifting; all we need to do is provide some direction.
Norm
PS> I apologize for my delay in making my choices. My family’s holiday get-together was over the Thanksgiving weekend, and this item fell in the crack during my travels.
--
Norman T Olsen
Regional Representative, Region 1
Libertarian National Committee
7931 South Broadway, PMB 102
Littleton, CO 80122-2710
303-263-4995
*From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Brett Bittner *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:44 PM *To:* lnc-business@hq.lp.org *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Suggestions regarding LP outreach literature
My suggestions:
1. A broad economic liberty piece. 2. A broad civil liberties piece. 3. A broad piece regarding freedom "across the board." 4. 2nd Amendment piece (for gun show outreach) 5. Campus freedom piece (for on-campus outreach) 6. An "open for business" piece tailored toward the issues faced by small business owners. 7. A Spanish language piece (possibly just a translation of #3 above) 8. A Spanish language piece specific to issues important in the Hispanic community (immigration/freedom of movement, economic opportunity, "flex your rights") 9. A "No Cronies" piece in opposition to cronyism
I'm sure I could come up with more, but I think these would be a good start, covering many topics and offering some literature specific to some of our most popular outreach activities.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Alternate Libertarian National Committee
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On Nov 22, 2015 5:55 PM, "James Lark" <jwl3s@virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature:
I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance):
1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional)
2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance)
3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways)
4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets)
There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/13/dnc-craves-tax-dollars-for-c... Here's an issue people might get upset about if they knew about it. The Libertarian Party - we don't want your money to pay for our convention! Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat) On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree that, with sufficient creativity, we can find a unique angle or way to "slice" into an issue and make it one that differentiates us.
It doesn't follow, I don't think, that all issues are wedge issues, at least not if by wedge issue we mean something where we have something to say that is unique and that people want to hear. Maybe I'm using the word incorrectly. Here's the concept I'm getting at: I can think of three marketing approaches: 1. Selling a product everyone already wants and knows they want, and which is widely available 2. Selling a product everyone already wants and knows they want, and which is hard to find (good position) 3. Selling a product people don't want - then your marketing needs to be centered around convincing people that they should want your product.
3 is a high-risk/high-reward proposition. If you can create a demand no one would have ever thought of (say, Topsy-Tail) you'll do very well. But it's very hard, and certainly not the kind of thing you do by handing someone a rack card or bumper sticker. It's a long-term sales approach. In general, telling people they should want what you're selling, despite the fact that they don't, doesn't work out well. Of course, the way to do it might be to show that the product meets some demand that they know about in a non-obvious way: no one knew they wanted this loop of metal, but they knew they wanted a fast, easy way to make their hair look nice. Maybe we can give an angle on an issue that suddenly changes the mind of someone who looks at our rack cards - in which case, fantastic! However, short of that, what we'd get is a rack card that doesn't sell anything in particular.
I repeat my other criteria - our products should be useful to our candidates, meaning they should "work" on a number of levels.
I'm trying to stay on topic, but to touch briefly on Mr. Olsen's point in this connection: one issue we run into is the credibility of our claims. That is, even when someone likes what we have to say, it's not obvious that our candidates can achieve it once in office. Sometimes, the fact that others don't just tells someone "that's really hard to do - and that Libertarian has even less support to achieve it!" We are in the unique position of having to convince voters not only that they like what we're selling, but that we can actually deliver the product where others have, to their minds, tried and failed. In that sense, even in the races Dr. Lieberman mentions, people often vote for a party rather than a candidate. Yes, you can get around that by doing things like knocking on every door (in a small enough race, of course) and having a plan that makes you at least appear credible. For higher office, you can establish your credibility by having run for, and won, a lower office, and achieved the things you set out to achieve - hence my comment last week about a "bench."
Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Carla Howell <4smallgov@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks all for your fine suggestions. I'm working on several of these now.
I will present them in the form of Libertarian solutions, which includes: 1. what government is doing now, enacted by Ds and Rs, that is causing the problem. 2. the Libertarian solution and specific actions we can take to correct them (repeal, withdraw, dereg, dismantle, reduce, etc). This is where we differentiate ourselves from the Ds and Rs. 3. the copious, attractive benefits to voters that will result
I note that almost all Libertarian issues are wedge issues. Even where we appear to be aligned with Ds and Rs, they not only refuse to implement our shared goals, they usually vote and act against them.
I plan to add a talking point on government *financial* transparency, but this again needs to be presented as a wedge issue. While Ds and Rs frequently claim to support transparency, they refuse to do anything meaningful about it, and therefore encourage it. It's not the very most urgent voter issue. But the fact that our opponents regularly give it lip service suggests their polling tells them it's a concern of many voters.
Carla
Carla Howell
"The (government) designed (by our Founding Fathers) has turned into a congealed ball of lard that eats money and excretes red tape." - Scott Adams
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't yet have my final recommendations, but I want to make an observation. It seems to me that there are at least 3 approaches to this, and likely more:
1. Choose current "hot button" issues - that is, what people are already interested in and talking about. 2. Choose "wedge" issues - things people are interested in, perhaps not their highest priority, but topics on which the LP has something unique to say that will likely be more popular than what comes from others. 3. Look to our own past messaging and consider which topics have been most successful. In its simplest form, this would mean looking at a bunch of FB posts and measuring likes.
I would suggest that, while 1 is the most obvious answer, 2 might be position us in a stronger way. I don't know if it helps us all that much to message on a really popular hot-button issue if our position is likely to not be the most popular, or to be so unpopular as to chase people away. Of course, maybe a 1-issue can become a 2-issue with clever enough packaging.
The counter-argument, of course, is that if we have a 1-issue where our position is unpopular, and which is critically important for freedom is this land, we should message it hard in order to change the dialogue. I don't find that a particularly viable answer, though, for at least 3 reasons. First, I don't think we're loud enough to succeed in that. Second, we can do the most to move policy by being persuasive, not shocking for its own sake - our job is to build support for our candidates, not to actively push people away from their campaigns. Third, we'd be trying to change the dialogue against high leverage. In a 2-issue situation, on the other hand, we still have the opportunity to reshape the dialogue on an issue, but to do so with the benefit of high leverage. Messaging hard on 2-issues is like, in my mind, having a runaway truck heading downhill at high speed, and trying to change the angle at which it goes down the hill, while 1-issues is like trying to turn it all the way around and have it fall uphill.
Disclaimer: That isn't to say we have to treat 1-issues where our position is unpopular as poison, just a suggestion as to where they sit in the hierarchy of priorities.
PS: Of course, I also prefer to message on issues that translate well to races where our candidates are strongest. Some national issues can be easily made to "drip down" to any race, some cannot, and if we focus on the ones that can, we gain the advantages of a symbiotic relationship, so to speak.
Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Norm Olsen <region1rep@donedad.com> wrote:
Hello All . . .
A review of the political climate as established by the presidential debates indicates what the hot issues are. Selecting those hot issues which will survive the 2016 Presidential election I get:
1> Government irresponsibility is destroying the economic fabric of our nation.
2> Immigration Reform: Individual Freedom vs Economic & Personal Security
3> War on Terror: How do we provide security without sacrificing our liberties and economic future.
4> Government involvement in education (Common Core and Every Student Succeeds?).
If others on this list would convey to me (either directly or on this list) what your four (an arbitrary number I have just picked) topics are your choices for new outreach literature, I will try to compile a list from which we can choose five via some variation of approval voting using e-mail. This process is about making some choices. Please deliberate carefully and limit your suggestions to a reasonable number.
One of our goals, indeed the easiest to achieve of our six goals, is “Updated issue-based outreach literature”. If we fail to meet this relatively easy goal, the only excuse is neglect. Let’s get busy on this. Staff has suggested that they can do the heavy lifting; all we need to do is provide some direction.
Norm
PS> I apologize for my delay in making my choices. My family’s holiday get-together was over the Thanksgiving weekend, and this item fell in the crack during my travels.
--
Norman T Olsen
Regional Representative, Region 1
Libertarian National Committee
7931 South Broadway, PMB 102
Littleton, CO 80122-2710
303-263-4995
*From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Brett Bittner *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:44 PM *To:* lnc-business@hq.lp.org *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Suggestions regarding LP outreach literature
My suggestions:
1. A broad economic liberty piece. 2. A broad civil liberties piece. 3. A broad piece regarding freedom "across the board." 4. 2nd Amendment piece (for gun show outreach) 5. Campus freedom piece (for on-campus outreach) 6. An "open for business" piece tailored toward the issues faced by small business owners. 7. A Spanish language piece (possibly just a translation of #3 above) 8. A Spanish language piece specific to issues important in the Hispanic community (immigration/freedom of movement, economic opportunity, "flex your rights") 9. A "No Cronies" piece in opposition to cronyism
I'm sure I could come up with more, but I think these would be a good start, covering many topics and offering some literature specific to some of our most popular outreach activities.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Alternate Libertarian National Committee
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On Nov 22, 2015 5:55 PM, "James Lark" <jwl3s@virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. As usual it was nice to see you in Orlando last weekend. I have enclosed below some suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature. I hope you find these suggestions worthy of your consideration. I apologize that I was unable to send my suggestions sooner; during the past week I have been swamped with faculty duties, along with my duties to other libertarian organizations.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Best wishes to you and your loved ones for a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
Suggestions regarding topics for LP outreach literature:
I believe we should develop material (including flyers/pamphlets) concerning the following topics (listed in no particular order of importance):
1) American foreign policy (ending activities which are hideously immoral, horribly counterproductive, extraordinarily expensive, and/or blatantly unconstitutional)
2) Health care and insurance (moving to a truly free market in both health care and insurance)
3) "Crony capitalism" (ending the ability of governments to play favorites in various ways)
4) The increasingly predatory nature of the law enforcement/judicial system (e.g., police brutality, generating revenue for the state via heavy fines for minor offenses, civil asset forfeiture, pre-trial seizure of defendant assets)
There are many other topics about which we should develop outreach material. My gut feeling (based upon a fair amount of seat-of-the-pants empiricism) is that outreach material concerning the topics listed above would give us the best return on investment over the near term. One topic about which I may be able to offer specific suggestions for outreach material concerns what I view as the increasing pettiness of government involvement in our lives.
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Page 1: "FIRST DRAFT DUE TO LNC MEMERS 15 DAYS AFTER SESSION:" Mr. Vohra might be a memer, but I doubt the remainder of the LNC is. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Memer "2 : positive term from those who classify themselves and others within their circle of acquaintances as upstanding or exceptional contributors to "meme <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meme> society"; commonly used within social media, especially on tumblr.com. Often associated with becoming a meme in ones entirety." Scott Lieberman _____ From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Alicia Mattson Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:52 PM To: lnc-business Subject: [Lnc-business] draft minutes of 11/14/15 LNC session Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando. Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5. A brownie point opportunity is knocking... Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary
Interesting that MS-Word didn't flag "memers" as a misspelling for me. Gmail is red-squiggly-marking it as I type this message. I doubt MS-Word checks the urban dictionary. That typo was in my template, and looking back at the Waldo versions of past minutes, it's been that way for a while. I take much of that timeline out for the final approved version, so the typo doesn't make it to the online archive. I've recorded a point for Scott for the catch. -Alicia On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Scott L. <scott73@earthlink.net> wrote:
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Mr. Vohra might be a memer, but I doubt the remainder of the LNC is.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Memer
“2 : positive term from those who classify themselves and others within their circle of acquaintances as upstanding or exceptional contributors to " meme <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meme> society"; commonly used within social media, especially on tumblr.com. Often associated with becoming a meme in ones entirety.”
Scott Lieberman
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*From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Alicia Mattson *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 10:52 PM *To:* lnc-business *Subject:* [Lnc-business] draft minutes of 11/14/15 LNC session
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando.
Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5.
A brownie point opportunity is knocking...
Alicia Mattson
LNC Secretary
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I made this one: and the attached. I have more if you desire further hilarity. Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat) On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Scott L. <scott73@earthlink.net> wrote:
Page 1: “FIRST DRAFT DUE TO LNC MEMERS 15 DAYS AFTER SESSION:”
Mr. Vohra might be a memer, but I doubt the remainder of the LNC is.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Memer
“2 : positive term from those who classify themselves and others within their circle of acquaintances as upstanding or exceptional contributors to " meme <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meme> society"; commonly used within social media, especially on tumblr.com. Often associated with becoming a meme in ones entirety.”
Scott Lieberman
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*From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Alicia Mattson *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2015 10:52 PM *To:* lnc-business *Subject:* [Lnc-business] draft minutes of 11/14/15 LNC session
Attached are the first draft minutes from the November 14-15 LNC session in Orlando.
Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by December 5.
A brownie point opportunity is knocking...
Alicia Mattson
LNC Secretary
_______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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James Lark -
Joshua Katz -
Norm Olsen -
Sam Goldstein -
Scott L. -
Tim Hagan