Re: [Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access
Thats great news Oliver. Thank you!John PhillipsLibertarian National Committee Region 6 RepresentativeCell 217-412-5973------ Original message------From: Oliver Hall via Lnc-businessDate: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 8:02 AMTo: Libertarian National Committee list;Cc: Oliver Hall;Subject:[Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access Good Morning, Please see the message below from LPO attorney Mark Brown, regarding ballot access in Ohio. -Oliver From: Brown, Mark Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:01 AM To: harold.thomas@lpo.org Cc: oliverbhall@gmail.com Subject: LPO's status Remember that ORC 3501(F), which defines political parties in Ohio, states in subsection (2)(b) that "[a] newly formed political party shall be known as a minor political party until the time of the first election for governor or president which occurs not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation of such party, after which election the status of such party shall be determined by the vote for the office of governor or president." The first election for governor or president that occurs "not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation" of the LPO in August of 2018 will be the 2020 presidential election. The 2018 gubernatorial election occurred less than 12 months after the formation of the party. As we discussed previously, this provides the LPO two chances to win 3% of the vote, which is what parties receive when they first meet the vote test. E.g., Green Party which met the vote test in 2014. Mark R. Brown Newton D. Baker/Baker & Hostetler Chair Capital University Law School Thats great news Oliver. Thank you! John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell [1]217-412-5973 ------ Original message------ From: Oliver Hall via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 8:02 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list; Cc: Oliver Hall; Subject:[Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access Good Morning, Please see the message below from LPO attorney Mark Brown, regarding ballot access in Ohio. -Oliver From: Brown, Mark Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:01 AM To:[2] harold.thomas@lpo.org Cc:[3] oliverbhall@gmail.com Subject: LPO's status Remember that ORC 3501(F), which defines political parties in Ohio, states in subsection (2)(b) that "[a] newly formed political party shall be known as a minor political party until the time of the first election for governor or president which occurs not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation of such party, after which election the status of such party shall be determined by the vote for the office of governor or president." The first election for governor or president that occurs "not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation" of the LPO in August of 2018 will be the 2020 presidential election. The 2018 gubernatorial election occurred less than 12 months after the formation of the party. As we discussed previously, this provides the LPO two chances to win 3% of the vote, which is what parties receive when they first meet the vote test. E.g., Green Party which met the vote test in 2014. Mark R. Brown Newton D. Baker/Baker & Hostetler Chair Capital University Law School References 1. tel:217-412-5973 2. mailto: harold.thomas@lpo.org 3. mailto: oliverbhall@gmail.com
I should clarify that the Ohio SOS may well take a different view, so this isn't a guarantee, but a solid basis for a legal challenge if the SOS disagrees. Apologies for not making that clear when I forwarded the original message. -Oliver Oliver B. Hall Special Counsel Libertarian National Committee 617-953-0161 On 11/7/2018 9:24 AM, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Thats great news Oliver. Thank you!
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973 <tel:217-412-5973>
------ Original message------ *From: *Oliver Hall via Lnc-business *Date: *Wed, Nov 7, 2018 8:02 AM *To: *Libertarian National Committee list; *Cc: *Oliver Hall; *Subject:*[Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access
Good Morning,
Please see the message below from LPO attorney Mark Brown, regarding ballot access in Ohio.
-Oliver
From: Brown, MarkSent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:01 AM To:harold.thomas@lpo.org <mailto:%20harold.thomas@lpo.org> Cc:oliverbhall@gmail.com <mailto:%20oliverbhall@gmail.com> Subject: LPO's status Remember that ORC 3501(F), which defines political parties in Ohio, states in subsection (2)(b) that "[a] newly formed political party shall be known as a minor political party until the time of the first election for governor or president which occurs not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation of such party, after which election the status of such party shall be determined by the vote for the office of governor or president." The first election for governor or president that occurs "not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation" of the LPO in August of 2018 will be the 2020 presidential election. The 2018 gubernatorial election occurred less than 12 months after the formation of the party. As we discussed previously, this provides the LPO two chances to win 3% of the vote, which is what parties receive when they first meet the vote test. E.g., Green Party which met the vote test in 2014. Mark R. Brown Newton D. Baker/Baker & Hostetler Chair Capital University Law School
I should clarify that the Ohio SOS may well take a different view, so this isn't a guarantee, but a solid basis for a legal challenge if the SOS disagrees. Apologies for not making that clear when I forwarded the original message. -Oliver Oliver B. Hall Special Counsel Libertarian National Committee 617-953-0161 On 11/7/2018 9:24 AM, [1]john.phillips@lp.org wrote: Thats great news Oliver. Thank you! John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell [2]217-412-5973 ------ Original message------ From: Oliver Hall via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 8:02 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list; Cc: Oliver Hall; Subject:[Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access Good Morning, Please see the message below from LPO attorney Mark Brown, regarding ballot access in Ohio. -Oliver From: Brown, Mark Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:01 AM To:[3] harold.thomas@lpo.org Cc:[4] oliverbhall@gmail.com Subject: LPO's status Remember that ORC 3501(F), which defines political parties in Ohio, states in subsection (2)(b) that "[a] newly formed political party shall be known as a minor political party until the time of the first election for governor or president which occurs not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation of such party, after which election the status of such party shall be determined by the vote for the office of governor or president." The first election for governor or president that occurs "not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation" of the LPO in August of 2018 will be the 2020 presidential election. The 2018 gubernatorial election occurred less than 12 months after the formation of the party. As we discussed previously, this provides the LPO two chances to win 3% of the vote, which is what parties receive when they first meet the vote test. E.g., Green Party which met the vote test in 2014. Mark R. Brown Newton D. Baker/Baker & Hostetler Chair Capital University Law School References 1. mailto:john.phillips@lp.org 2. tel:217-412-5973 3. mailto: harold.thomas@lpo.org 4. mailto: oliverbhall@gmail.com
How is it that the LPO was first "formed" in 2018 when it has been around for a lot longer than that? --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-11-07 10:13, Oliver Hall via Lnc-business wrote:
I should clarify that the Ohio SOS may well take a different view, so this isn't a guarantee, but a solid basis for a legal challenge if the SOS disagrees.
Apologies for not making that clear when I forwarded the original message.
-Oliver Oliver B. Hall Special Counsel Libertarian National Committee 617-953-0161
On 11/7/2018 9:24 AM, [1]john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Thats great news Oliver. Thank you! John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell [2]217-412-5973
------ Original message------ From: Oliver Hall via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 8:02 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list; Cc: Oliver Hall; Subject:[Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access Good Morning,
Please see the message below from LPO attorney Mark Brown, regarding ballot access in Ohio.
-Oliver
From: Brown, Mark Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:01 AM To:[3] harold.thomas@lpo.org Cc:[4] oliverbhall@gmail.com Subject: LPO's status
Remember that ORC 3501(F), which defines political parties in Ohio, states in subsection (2)(b) that "[a] newly formed political party shall be known as a minor political party until the time of the first election for governor or president which occurs not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation of such party, after which election the status of such party shall be determined by the vote for the office of governor or president." The first election for governor or president that occurs "not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation" of the LPO in August of 2018 will be the 2020 presidential election. The 2018 gubernatorial election occurred less than 12 months after the formation of the party. As we discussed previously, this provides the LPO two chances to win 3% of the vote, which is what parties receive when they first meet the vote test. E.g., Green Party which met the vote test in 2014.
Mark R. Brown
Newton D. Baker/Baker & Hostetler Chair
Capital University Law School
References
1. mailto:john.phillips@lp.org 2. tel:217-412-5973 3. mailto: harold.thomas@lpo.org 4. mailto: oliverbhall@gmail.com
Oliver, thank you for the information! I'll share this with LPOH. Cheers, EVH --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY) Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus http://www.lpcaucus.org/ On 2018-11-07 10:13, Oliver Hall via Lnc-business wrote:
I should clarify that the Ohio SOS may well take a different view, so this isn't a guarantee, but a solid basis for a legal challenge if the SOS disagrees.
Apologies for not making that clear when I forwarded the original message.
-Oliver Oliver B. Hall Special Counsel Libertarian National Committee 617-953-0161
On 11/7/2018 9:24 AM, [1]john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Thats great news Oliver. Thank you! John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell [2]217-412-5973
------ Original message------ From: Oliver Hall via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 8:02 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list; Cc: Oliver Hall; Subject:[Lnc-business] Ohio Ballot Access Good Morning,
Please see the message below from LPO attorney Mark Brown, regarding ballot access in Ohio.
-Oliver
From: Brown, Mark Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 8:01 AM To:[3] harold.thomas@lpo.org Cc:[4] oliverbhall@gmail.com Subject: LPO's status
Remember that ORC 3501(F), which defines political parties in Ohio, states in subsection (2)(b) that "[a] newly formed political party shall be known as a minor political party until the time of the first election for governor or president which occurs not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation of such party, after which election the status of such party shall be determined by the vote for the office of governor or president." The first election for governor or president that occurs "not less than twelve months subsequent to the formation" of the LPO in August of 2018 will be the 2020 presidential election. The 2018 gubernatorial election occurred less than 12 months after the formation of the party. As we discussed previously, this provides the LPO two chances to win 3% of the vote, which is what parties receive when they first meet the vote test. E.g., Green Party which met the vote test in 2014.
Mark R. Brown
Newton D. Baker/Baker & Hostetler Chair
Capital University Law School
References
1. mailto:john.phillips@lp.org 2. tel:217-412-5973 3. mailto: harold.thomas@lpo.org 4. mailto: oliverbhall@gmail.com
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