I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here? * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Okay I see, the suggestion was a bylaws change not a suspension of the rules. Thanks for clearing that up. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 3:58 PM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
John, The delegates in convention can do pretty much whatever they want within the bound of the Bylaws and Roberts. We have had Bylaws and/or Convention Rules that take effect immediately, the change to Approval Voting for At Large and JC at Columbus that turned into a major fiasco, for instance. ARTICLE 17: AMENDMENT 1. These Bylaws may be amended by a 2/3 vote of the delegates at any Regular Convention. 2. Article 3, Section 1, or this Section, shall not be amended by a vote of less than 7/8 of all registered delegates at a Regular Convention. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-03-14 17:07, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.
However, they could consider a bylaws change at convention to allow it?
At this point this is low on my things of concern, just engaging in a conversation brought up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:57 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote: I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I don't like to say I told you so, but the whole "no big deal we don't have a JC" may come to bite us in the ass over this convention. I don't want to be right. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:32 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
So that answers the question. So it can be done if the steps are followed.
Whether it should I will leave to others.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 6:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
John,
The delegates in convention can do pretty much whatever they want within the bound of the Bylaws and Roberts. We have had Bylaws and/or Convention Rules that take effect immediately, the change to Approval Voting for At Large and JC at Columbus that turned into a major fiasco, for instance.
ARTICLE 17: AMENDMENT 1. These Bylaws may be amended by a 2/3 vote of the delegates at any Regular Convention. 2. Article 3, Section 1, or this Section, shall not be amended by a vote of less than 7/8 of all registered delegates at a Regular Convention.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 17:07, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.
However, they could consider a bylaws change at convention to allow it?
At this point this is low on my things of concern, just engaging in a conversation brought up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:57 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Sorry, but I can't quite figure out where the lack of a JC is going to affect any resolution to this situation. Where would the JC have any jurisdiction per their Bylaws set possible courses of action: 2. The subject matter jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee is limited to consideration of only those matters expressly identified as follows: a. suspension of affiliate parties (Article 5, Section 6), b. suspension of officers (Article 6, Section 7), c. suspension of National Committee members-at-large (Article 7, Section 5), d. voiding of National Committee decisions (Article 7, Section 12), e. challenges to platform planks (Rule 5, Section 7), f. challenges to Resolutions (Rule 6, Section 2), and g. suspension of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates (Article 14, Section 5). The only possible scenario I can envision is if the LNC decides to reappoint itself in the event we can't have a convention due to government mandate and Section 2d might pertain. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-03-14 20:53, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Yes it may. I have made that point before.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 7:47 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't like to say I told you so, but the whole "no big deal we don't have a JC" may come to bite us in the ass over this convention. I don't want to be right.
IN LIBERTY, __ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:32 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote: So that answers the question. So it can be done if the steps are followed.
Whether it should I will leave to others.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 6:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
John,
The delegates in convention can do pretty much whatever they want within the bound of the Bylaws and Roberts. We have had Bylaws and/or Convention Rules that take effect immediately, the change to Approval Voting for At Large and JC at Columbus that turned into a major fiasco, for instance.
ARTICLE 17: AMENDMENT 1. These Bylaws may be amended by a 2/3 vote of the delegates at any Regular Convention. 2. Article 3, Section 1, or this Section, shall not be amended by a vote of less than 7/8 of all registered delegates at a Regular Convention.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 17:07, john.phillips@lp.org wrote: Thank you for the clarification.
However, they could consider a bylaws change at convention to allow it?
At this point this is low on my things of concern, just engaging in a conversation brought up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:57 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote: I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
At our upcoming meeting, I can bring up what others have brought up to me - * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:09 PM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
Sorry, but I can't quite figure out where the lack of a JC is going to affect any resolution to this situation. Where would the JC have any jurisdiction per their Bylaws set possible courses of action:
2. The subject matter jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee is limited to consideration of only those matters expressly identified as follows: a. suspension of affiliate parties (Article 5, Section 6), b. suspension of officers (Article 6, Section 7), c. suspension of National Committee members-at-large (Article 7, Section 5), d. voiding of National Committee decisions (Article 7, Section 12), e. challenges to platform planks (Rule 5, Section 7), f. challenges to Resolutions (Rule 6, Section 2), and g. suspension of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates (Article 14, Section 5).
The only possible scenario I can envision is if the LNC decides to reappoint itself in the event we can't have a convention due to government mandate and Section 2d might pertain. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 20:53, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Yes it may. I have made that point before.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 7:47 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't like to say I told you so, but the whole "no big deal we don't have a JC" may come to bite us in the ass over this convention. I don't want to be right.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:32 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
So that answers the question. So it can be done if the steps are followed.
Whether it should I will leave to others.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 6:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
John,
The delegates in convention can do pretty much whatever they want within the bound of the Bylaws and Roberts. We have had Bylaws and/or Convention Rules that take effect immediately, the change to Approval Voting for At Large and JC at Columbus that turned into a major fiasco, for instance.
ARTICLE 17: AMENDMENT 1. These Bylaws may be amended by a 2/3 vote of the delegates at any Regular Convention. 2. Article 3, Section 1, or this Section, shall not be amended by a vote of less than 7/8 of all registered delegates at a Regular Convention.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 17:07, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.
However, they could consider a bylaws change at convention to allow it?
At this point this is low on my things of concern, just engaging in a conversation brought up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:57 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Umm, Sam, reading that list seems to be that several of those things could come up during or after convention. Again, this is lower on my priority list than other things, but I do see the points of those worrying about it. John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 On 3/14/2020 8:08 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
Sorry, but I can't quite figure out where the lack of a JC is going to affect any resolution to this situation. Where would the JC have any jurisdiction per their Bylaws set possible courses of action:
2. The subject matter jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee is limited to consideration of only those matters expressly identified as follows: a. suspension of affiliate parties (Article 5, Section 6), b. suspension of officers (Article 6, Section 7), c. suspension of National Committee members-at-large (Article 7, Section 5), d. voiding of National Committee decisions (Article 7, Section 12), e. challenges to platform planks (Rule 5, Section 7), f. challenges to Resolutions (Rule 6, Section 2), and g. suspension of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates (Article 14, Section 5).
The only possible scenario I can envision is if the LNC decides to reappoint itself in the event we can't have a convention due to government mandate and Section 2d might pertain.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 20:53, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Yes it may. I have made that point before.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 7:47 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't like to say I told you so, but the whole "no big deal we don't have a JC" may come to bite us in the ass over this convention. I don't want to be right. * In Liberty,* *//* /* Personal Note: * I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. /
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:32 PM <john.phillips@lp.org <mailto:john.phillips@lp.org>> wrote:
So that answers the question. So it can be done if the steps are followed. Whether it should I will leave to others.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 6:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org <mailto:sam.goldstein@lp.org>> wrote:
John,
The delegates in convention can do pretty much whatever they want within the bound of the Bylaws and Roberts. We have had Bylaws and/or Convention Rules that take effect immediately, the change to Approval Voting for At Large and JC at Columbus that turned into a major fiasco, for instance.
ARTICLE 17: AMENDMENT 1. These Bylaws may be amended by a 2/3 vote of the delegates at any Regular Convention. 2. Article 3, Section 1, or this Section, shall not be amended by a vote of less than 7/8 of all registered delegates at a Regular Convention.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 17:07, john.phillips@lp.org <mailto:john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification. However, they could consider a bylaws change at convention to allow it? At this point this is low on my things of concern, just engaging in a conversation brought up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:57 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org <mailto:sam.goldstein@lp.org>> wrote:
The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume. Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended. We cannot resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change? Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention? Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org <mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org>> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I think the question is to try and resolve the very question of if this JC is legitimate or not with the delegates whether that is by holding another election or reaffirming. I'm not sure but I've heard some of it as well, without an end goal or proposal. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 14:46 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from the last convention?
Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest solution.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here?
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
My opinion on this is that the convention does have the authority to resolve that the 7 individuals receiving the highest vote totals at the adjournment of the 2018 convention shall be considered the acting Judicial Committee for all intents and purposes until the 2022 convention where regular elections shall resume. I haven't put this to language yet, but I believe that such a resolution is within the authority of the convention delegates. -----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 1:28 PM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> Subject: [Lnc-business] I am confused I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the Bylaws not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended. Am I missing something here? * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
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