Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom
We have an electronic mail ballot. *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn *Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*. […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. *p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.* -Alicia We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. http://zoom.us/
I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn
*Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows:
a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences.
b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees.
c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*.
[…]
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
[…]
h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed.
i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list.
[…]
n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted.
o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
*p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.*
-Alicia
I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <[1]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/
P.S. I think it's better for us to kick the tires on Zoom, get definitive costs together, and handle this at the pre-convention meeting in NOLA when amendments can be considered. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet.
Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal.
When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!"
Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant.
Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom?
I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion.
Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting.
I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings.
-Alicia
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn
*Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows:
a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences.
b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees.
c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*.
[…]
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
[…]
h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed.
i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list.
[…]
n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted.
o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
*p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.*
-Alicia
P.S. I think it's better for us to kick the tires on Zoom, get definitive costs together, and handle this at the pre-convention meeting in NOLA when amendments can be considered. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Alicia Mattson <[1]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote: I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <[2]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([3]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 2. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 3. http://zoom.us/
Yes. ==Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, ut we've had other meetings with it that worked well. === IMHO none have been pleasant with it. Some of been less than horrendous. ==Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom?== $14.99 a month. The "host" would be the organization. If people wanted unique ID and logins that would be different hosts. And we don't have to pay for months we are not using, we can downgrade to free option. That takes staying on top of that though and honestly, I just personally pay a $14.99 a month fee so I always have it. We can always amend it later, but I would like to get something going that we can use. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:56 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
P.S. I think it's better for us to kick the tires on Zoom, get definitive costs together, and handle this at the pre-convention meeting in NOLA when amendments can be considered. -Alicia
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Alicia Mattson <[1]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <[2]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([3]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
1. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 2. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 3. http://zoom.us/
-- -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org/> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft* Yes. ==Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, ut we've had other meetings with it that worked well. === IMHO none have been pleasant with it. Some of been less than horrendous. ==Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom?== $14.99 a month. The "host" would be the organization. If people wanted unique ID and logins that would be different hosts. And we don't have to pay for months we are not using, we can downgrade to free option. That takes staying on top of that though and honestly, I just personally pay a $14.99 a month fee so I always have it. We can always amend it later, but I would like to get something going that we can use. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:56 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: P.S. I think it's better for us to kick the tires on Zoom, get definitive costs together, and handle this at the pre-convention meeting in NOLA when amendments can be considered. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Alicia Mattson <[1][2]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote: I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <[2][3]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([3][4]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. mailto:[5]alicia.mattson@lp.org 2. mailto:[6]alicia.mattson@lp.org 3. [7]http://zoom.us/ -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - [8]Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org Communications Director, [9]Libertarian Party of Colorado Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 3. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 4. http://zoom.us/ 5. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 6. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 7. http://zoom.us/ 8. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 9. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
The Zoom “Host” is merely the account holder in charge of scheduling the meetings, and in most cases in my experience, does not actually have to be present or online for the meeting themselves. The BlockChain committee has been using Zoom, and alternating between My own and Alex Merced’s accounts for hosting, and I missed the logon last night, but others were still able to log on and use my hosted session even in my absence. And I only pay for the $15 a month version. -Justin O’Donnell LNC Region 8 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:54 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list Cc: Alicia Mattson Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn
*Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows:
a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences.
b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees.
c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*.
[…]
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
[…]
h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed.
i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list.
[…]
n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted.
o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
*p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.*
-Alicia
The Zoom “Host” is merely the account holder in charge of scheduling the meetings, and in most cases in my experience, does not actually have to be present or online for the meeting themselves. The BlockChain committee has been using Zoom, and alternating between My own and Alex Merced’s accounts for hosting, and I missed the logon last night, but others were still able to log on and use my hosted session even in my absence. And I only pay for the $15 a month version. -Justin O’Donnell LNC Region 8 Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 From: [2]Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:54 AM To: [3]Libertarian National Committee list Cc: [4]Alicia Mattson Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
Pacific time.*
*Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn
*Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as
follows:
a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules
shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences.
b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be
construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party)
as well as committees.
c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix)
service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us
<http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as
Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*.
[…]
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by
emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time
of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic
Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so
called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10
members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These
time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's
Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
[…]
h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity,
including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera,
microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right
to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should
use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use
the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The
organization is not responsible for providing a central location for
physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings,
electronic participation is not allowed.
i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining
the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates
of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group
administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the
alphabetical participant list.
[…]
n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates
of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the
Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their
web cameras off and their microphones muted.
o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all
members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or
appointment.
*p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made
through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer
the meeting which might limit available days for use.*
-Alicia
References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 2. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 3. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 4. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org
I appreciate the information Alicia. I've used Zoom for other online meetings, and it's low cost and easy. --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY) Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana LP Social Media Process Review Committee Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus http://www.lpcaucus.org/ On 2018-05-24 00:54, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
I'm not categorically against another option if something new has come along that is better, but I don't think we have enough information to make that decision yet. Yes, we had one rough experience with it for the Platform Committee, but we've had other meetings with it that worked well. Part of the issue was calling the meeting during the week when several were at work, or driving home from work, and we had more phone participation than was optimal. When we picked Adobe Connect, we appointed a committee that evaluated more than 10 systems using maybe 25-30 different criteria before we picked a winner. We wanted to know if it had sufficient features to reasonably support parliamentary procedure. We looked for features that prevented admin abuse during the meeting. Etc. There were group tests to kick the tires. It wasn't just someone saying, "Hey, I like this system!" Elizabeth, I know you wouldn't have reason to know this, but the cost we pay for Adobe Connect is not the rack rate listed on the website. We went up the chain a little bit to Citrix and got a flat $500/year/host for up to 100 participants. When people participate by phone, we do pay a per-minute rate for the phone, but it's not significant. Can the co-sponsors pin down for us exactly what the annual cost would be for us? The link provided earlier shows the rates as being per-host, and that sounds very much like the situation we have now, though it was portrayed as allowing us to pass the login credentials from one person to another. If that's true, what does per-host mean for Zoom? I'm going to need to kick the tires on Zoom before I could support the motion. Even if I am ultimately impressed with the software, I would like to amend the motion. I certainly wouldn't offer to people in section (i) that they don't have to bother setting their name as directed because the admin can just do it for them. Tell people to do it themselves, not expect an admin to babysit them. We know some won't follow directions, but that's a pain for the admin to have to monitor during a meeting. I also don't see the value of adding section (p) to the end. It seems like it's written just to critique the Adobe Connect platform, and it doesn't add something substantive to the rules for participating in the meetings. -Alicia
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Alicia Mattson <[1]alicia.mattson@lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
1. mailto:alicia.mattson@lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/
Yes ~David Pratt Demarest LNC Region 6 Representative -----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:34 PM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom We have an electronic mail ballot. *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn *Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*. […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. *p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.* -Alicia
Yes Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2018, at 6:07 AM, david.demarest--- via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest LNC Region 6 Representative
-----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:34 PM To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Cc: Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson@lp.org> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn
*Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows:
a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences.
b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees.
c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*.
[…]
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
[…]
h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed.
i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list.
[…]
n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted.
o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
*p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.*
-Alicia
Yes --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-05-24 00:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
Yes -Justin O’Donnell LNC Region 8 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:07 PM To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org Cc: Sam Goldstein Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom Yes --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-05-24 00:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
Yes -Justin O’Donnell LNC Region 8 Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 From: [2]Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:07 PM To: [3]lnc-business@hq.lp.org Cc: [4]Sam Goldstein Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom Yes --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-05-24 00:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn
Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as
follows:
a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting
rules
shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences.
b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall
be
construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian
Party) as well as committees.
c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect
(Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect
:DEL]
or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter
referred
to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…]
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do
so
by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the
meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of
the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed.
Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for
committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for
committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply
to
the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and
Publications
Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
[…]
h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity,
including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web
camera,
microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the
right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however
they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able
to
more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting
Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing
a
central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting.
For
face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed.
i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when
joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members
or
alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with
“zz”
(or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the
end
of the alphabetical participant list.
[…]
n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or
alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL:
Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a
toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones
muted.
o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all
members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election
or
appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be
made
through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to
administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
References 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 2. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 3. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 4. mailto:sam.goldstein@lp.org
AYE!!! More options are always preferable to fewer options!! Sincerely, Steve Scheetz -----Original Message----- From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:34 AM To: Libertarian National Committee list Cc: Alicia Mattson Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-06: Add Zoom We have an electronic mail ballot. *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn *Motion:* Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service, hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect* or via Zoom (zoom.us <http://zoom.us>). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s)*. […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, *meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, *and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the Adobe Connect *Electronic Meeting Provider *features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” *(or the group administrator shall do so) *so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using Adobe Connect *the Electronic Meeting Provider *(and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. *p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.* -Alicia
Yes. --- Elizabeth Van Horn On 2018-05-24 00:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
In the event that the Region 4 Representative does not vote, I vote YES on this matter. In Liberty, Kenneth Brent Olsen Region 4 LNC Alternate On 2018-05-23 21:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
Yes. Whitney Bilyeu Reion 7 Rep On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:08 AM, kenneth.olsen--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
In the event that the Region 4 Representative does not vote, I vote YES on this matter.
In Liberty, Kenneth Brent Olsen Region 4 LNC Alternate
On 2018-05-23 21:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
Yes. Whitney Bilyeu Reion 7 Rep On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:08 AM, kenneth.olsen--- via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: In the event that the Region 4 Representative does not vote, I vote YES on this matter. In Liberty, Kenneth Brent Olsen Region 4 LNC Alternate On 2018-05-23 21:34, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1][2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. [3]http://zoom.us/ References 1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/ 3. http://zoom.us/
Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "aye" on the motion. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- On 5/24/2018 12:34 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
I vote yes on e-mail ballot 2018-06 Ed Marsh Region 2 Rep (Fl,Ga,Tn) Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 2, 2018, at 3:15 AM, James Lark via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "aye" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
On 5/24/2018 12:34 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
References
I vote yes. No strong opinions on this personally, but the consensus seems to be that Zoom is better than Adobe Connect and that we should have it as an option for electronic meetings. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF On Jun 2, 2018, at 12:55 AM, Ed Marsh via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote yes on e-mail ballot 2018-06
Ed Marsh Region 2 Rep (Fl,Ga,Tn)
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 2, 2018, at 3:15 AM, James Lark via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "aye" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
On 5/24/2018 12:34 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
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yes On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:34 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
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-- Arvin Vohra www.VoteVohra.com VoteVohra@gmail.com (301) 320-3634 yes On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:34 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1][2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. [3]http://zoom.us/ -- Arvin Vohra [4]www.VoteVohra.com [5]VoteVohra@gmail.com (301) 320-3634 References 1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/ 3. http://zoom.us/ 4. http://www.VoteVohra.com/ 5. mailto:VoteVohra@gmail.com
I abstain. I am not against having more options (or replacing that part with a list of specifications). I haven't heard any debate on the change to the zzz rule, and at first glance it looks harder to manage than the current rule. Joshua A. Katz On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
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I abstain. I am not against having more options (or replacing that part with a list of specifications). I haven't heard any debate on the change to the zzz rule, and at first glance it looks harder to manage than the current rule. Joshua A. Katz On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1][2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. [3]http://zoom.us/ References 1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/ 3. http://zoom.us/
Also, in section p, "Provides" should be changed to "Providers." Joshua A. Katz On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s).
[…] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment.
p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use.
-Alicia
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Also, in section p, "Provides" should be changed to "Providers." Joshua A. Katz On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1][2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. [3]http://zoom.us/ References 1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/ 3. http://zoom.us/
JK> Also, in section p, "Provides" should be changed to "Providers." Brownie point to Joshua! -Alicia On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Joshua Katz via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Also, in section p, "Provides" should be changed to "Providers."
Joshua A. Katz On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1][2]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. [3]http://zoom.us/
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1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. http://zoom.us/ 3. http://zoom.us/
JK> Also, in section p, "Provides" should be changed to "Providers." Brownie point to Joshua! -Alicia On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Joshua Katz via Lnc-business <[1]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: Also, in section p, "Provides" should be changed to "Providers." Joshua A. Katz On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <[1][2]lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 2, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Goldstein, Demarest, O'Donnell, Van Horn Motion: Amend Policy Manual Section 1.02.7 Electronic Meetings as follows: a) The term “electronic meeting” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include teleconferences and videoconferences. b) The term “committee” within these electronic meeting rules shall be construed to include both the LNC (as the board of the Libertarian Party) as well as committees. c) All videoconferences will be conducted via the Adobe Connect (Citrix) service[DEL: , hereinafter referred to as Adobe Connect :DEL] or via Zoom ([1][2][3]zoom.us). These two services are hereinafter referred to as Electronic Meeting Provider(s). […] e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, meeting link including the identity of the Electronic Meeting Provider, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee. […] h) Each participant must provide his own equipment and connectivity, including but not limited to any computer, internet access, web camera, microphone, earphones, or telephone. Members and alternates have the right to participate in an electronic meeting by telephone, however they should use a computer connection if feasible so as to be able to more fully use the [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] Electronic Meeting Provider features. The organization is not responsible for providing a central location for physical attendance of an electronic meeting. For face-to- face meetings, electronic participation is not allowed. i) Each participant must accurately identify himself by name when joining the meeting. Videoconference participants other than members or alternates of the committee must precede their sign-in name with “zz” (or the group administrator shall do so) so as to group them at the end of the alphabetical participant list. […] n) If the committee permits, participants other than members or alternates of the committee may observe videoconferences using [DEL: Adobe Connect :DEL] the Electronic Meeting Provider (and not by a toll-free number) with their web cameras off and their microphones muted. o) The LNC Secretary shall promulgate these rules to all members/alternates of each committee upon notice of their election or appointment. p) Arrangements for use of the Electronic Meeting Provides must be made through the LNC Secretary who may be required to be present to administer the meeting which might limit available days for use. -Alicia References 1. [3][4]http://zoom.us/ References 1. mailto:[5]lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. [6]http://zoom.us/ 3. [7]http://zoom.us/ References 1. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 3. http://zoom.us/ 4. http://zoom.us/ 5. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 6. http://zoom.us/ 7. http://zoom.us/
participants (15)
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Alex Merced (Region 8 Alt) -
Alicia Mattson -
Arvin Vohra -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
david.demarest＠lp.org -
Ed Marsh -
Elizabeth Van Horn -
James Lark -
Joshua Katz -
Justin O'Donnell -
kenneth.olsen＠lp.org -
Sam Goldstein -
Starchild -
Steve Scheetz -
Whitney Bilyeu