Elected Libertarians
As many of you know, Scott and I have tried to do outreach to elected Libertarians lately. We looked up those listed on the website, contacted everyone we could find information for, and invited them to join a mailing list for discussing what they were doing, as well as where officials could provide advice to each other. It was intended as a low-volume list, open to Libertarians serving in public office or not, but focused on this topic. To date, less than 10 have joined the list, and three messages have been posted - one introduction to the list, one post about stopping a ban on donation bins, and one post by a new member expressing enthusiasm for joining. Similarly, the LNCC sponsored a luncheon at the convention for elected officials, which Scott hosted. Understandably, we started (tricky language here - the LNCC paid, Scott organized, I invited people, hence the we) rather late, so the low turnout was not unreasonable. My point is, there's not a lot of participation by Elected Libertarians. Carla reached out to me shortly after I was elected, and I'm assuming this is done with all of our elected officials. Do we also reach out to them after they've been in office a while? More importantly, do we offer our officials any value-added for participating? We have a lot of members with specific skills, it might be a good idea to form volunteer databases of those qualified to provide support to our officials (lawyers, (P)RPs, accountants, etc.) In addition, I think we should encourage state chairs to solicit information from their elected officials about the goings-on, if any support is needed from the affiliate or from national, and for those state chairs to pass on needed support to HQ, as well as to pass on news for LP news and the blog. I would love for the blog, website, and LP news to feature small pieces, often, about what our officials are doing in office. Membership is encouraged by success, and having this sort of thing in LP News and the website would promote a more inspired membership (and membership retention.) It would also be a nice thing for our elected officials to know we care about them. Also, there are some things we need to stop doing. If we're going to have an elected Libertarians panel at the convention, it should not be held as a break-out session, unless for some reason we don't want our elected officials to be able to fully serve as delegates if they so choose. I did not participate in the panel, specifically because I was not, as state chair, an elected delegate, and presumptive regional alternate, going to miss LNC elections, which is when the panel was held in Ohio. If that's how I feel, as an elected official, what about delegates who are elected officials? Their only opportunity to hear from elected Libertarians would have meant giving up their right, as delegates, to vote for their leadership. More importantly, I don't think we should have an elected officials panel as the only opportunity for our elected officials to speak. During the convention itself, on the floor, we heard from the head of a conservative/libertarian organization (one I love dearly, by the way, and where I spent many summers, before they moved to Georgia), and several candidates who earned as much as, I think, 5% of the vote. We didn't hear from a single elected official from the floor. Not a single elected official was a meal speaker. Many state affiliates have invited elected officials to speak at their conventions, from their own states or from nearby states. Why wouldn't national also? This is not a plea, by the way, for "speaking welfare." Certainly, there's no reason not to have quality speakers - but presumably among our elected Libertarians, there must be some energizing speakers, since speaking is a part of campaigning. We want "the best" speakers - but we have different speakers every year, so surely we're not having "the best" every year - we're having a variety of good speakers. I'm just suggesting that one of those categories to be represented should be the people from this party who have helped us to achieve one of our key purposes - the moving of public policy in a libertarian direction by electing Libertarians to office. Many of our members, I've found, do not value winning local elections, and sometimes refer dismissively to such elections by the catch-phrase "dog-catcher." (Joe Biden, on the other hand, in 2007 said that there were too many judges appointed to the Supreme Court, and that instead a dog-catcher should be appointed. He was chair of the Judiciary Committee at the time.) Perhaps hearing from such people about how we are, in fact, moving liberty forward would be helpful. Also, I mentioned above that Scott and I searched for contact information for officials. Checking just now, I found that I don't have my contact information on the website, and a random sampling of 10 elected officials revealed that none did. Can someone at HQ please put my contact information up, and can we please encourage state chairs to ask their elected officials if they'd like their contact information displayed, and to provide it to HQ if so? People like success. We need to keep our elected officials involved and let them inspire our members. We also need them to serve as examples that, yes, you can get elected as a Libertarian, and yes, you can do things in office to move public policy in a libertarian direction. Doing that means incentivizing participation, providing opportunities for participation, and putting our elected officials forward as being valued. It also means providing our elected officials with any needed support we can offer - and seeking them out to offer that support. Joshua A. Katz Region 8 (Region of Badassdom) Alternate Libertarian National Committee Chair, Libertarian Party of Connecticut
"We didn't hear from a single elected official from the floor. Not a single elected official was a meal speaker. Joshua A. Katz"
From Scott Lieberman - I complained about this very topic on the LNC e-mail list as soon as the first flight of speakers was announced. Here is the reply I received:
Sent March 25, 2014 to lnc-discuss: Mr. Lieberman, Since you shared your letter with us, I hope you will do the same, and share my response with those same friends. I am under the impression that the intention of the CMC is to run a successful convention, which will be judged first by whether or not it loses money, and second by how many people show up. As such, who is chosen to speak is a simple matter of ROI. Do you have any evidence to show the LNC that focusing on minor elected officials will improve our attendance? Will having a water policy panel of elected water board officials like the one scheduled for the California convention incent libertarians from across the country to come to Columbus? I would dearly like some supporting facts that I can use to measure whether or not the CMC should schedule only elected libertarians. Do you have them? Okay, what about personal experience? How many state or national conventions have you been actively involved in? What is the basis of your perspective? Well? Can you please provide me with the name of one elected Libertarian whose name recognition and reputation for inspirational speaking will increase the attendance? I am sure there will be a number of both candidates and elected officials speaking at the convention, but we have not yet promoted them. I have no evidence that promoting minor elected officials affects attendance, but I do know that people are positive about the speakers on the schedule so far. Perhaps if those elected officials were Senators, or Governors, or Representatives it would. Sell me. I do not say this to denigrate the fine individuals who have gotten elected and are now serving, but you raised the fact that the majority of speakers at the Democratic and Republican national conventions are elected officials. Yes they are, and they represent a microscopic percentage of their respective party's elected officials. They are not chosen to speak because they are elected - they are chosen because they are dynamic and inspirational speakers. If we have such people, then by all means we should schedule them. Please enlighten us with a list of dynamic and inspirational elected libertarians that are either NOT going to be delegates, or will pay all of their own expenses. Oh - be sure to tell them that they will be forbidden from running for any LNC position. If we do it your way, will you personally cover any shortfall due to low attendance? Since you're such an expert, why haven't you volunteered to be on the CMC or the COC (or any other LNC committee for that matter)? In closing, I might be more receptive to your opinion if it was not for the perception I have that all you do is whine and moan about what other people are doing, while doing nothing of value to the LNC, or the Libertarian Party, or to the liberty movement in general. Heck - you wait until this late to voice your opinion that we should be focusing on elected officials as speakers? Did it take this long for you to come to this opinion, or have you just been waiting to criticize the work of others, while doing no work that anyone can criticize? Never mind - I know the answer to that question. Geoffrey Neale Chair Libertarian National Committee PS: Attendance at the National Convention is not mandatory.
I believe I addressed all of the points raised by the immediate ex-chair already, in clarifying that I am not asking for "speaking welfare." I do note that the dismissal of "water policy" is similar to what I described in my last letter. Mr. Neale's point is well-taken on the fact that a paid speaker cannot be a delegate, and that a major speaker cannot run for the LNC, although "major" is left undefined. I do not know if Mr. Sarvis signed such a statement, but I don't think that sort of speech would be qualified as major - although I can easily be wrong about that. I would be surprised if many elected Libertarians wanted to be officers on the LNC, given that all or almost all of our elected officials serve in unpaid capacities, and thus have the equivalent of two jobs already (unless they don't also have a paid job.) I believe the minutes of the last LNC meeting contain further information on how the party may and may not interact financially with delegates. Joshua A. Katz Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat) On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Scott L. <scott73@earthlink.net> wrote:
“We didn't hear from a single elected official from the floor. Not a single elected official was a meal speaker.
Joshua A. Katz”
From Scott Lieberman - I complained about this very topic on the LNC e-mail list as soon as the first flight of speakers was announced. Here is the reply I received:
Sent March 25, 2014 to lnc-discuss:
Mr. Lieberman,
Since you shared your letter with us, I hope you will do the same, and share my response with those same friends.
I am under the impression that the intention of the CMC is to run a successful convention, which will be judged first by whether or not it loses money, and second by how many people show up. As such, who is chosen to speak is a simple matter of ROI. Do you have any evidence to show the LNC that focusing on minor elected officials will improve our attendance? Will having a water policy panel of elected water board officials like the one scheduled for the California convention incent libertarians from across the country to come to Columbus? I would dearly like some supporting facts that I can use to measure whether or not the CMC should schedule only elected libertarians. Do you have them?
Okay, what about personal experience? How many state or national conventions have you been actively involved in? What is the basis of your perspective? Well?
Can you please provide me with the name of one elected Libertarian whose name recognition and reputation for inspirational speaking will increase the attendance? I am sure there will be a number of both candidates and elected officials speaking at the convention, but we have not yet promoted them. I have no evidence that promoting minor elected officials affects attendance, but I do know that people are positive about the speakers on the schedule so far. Perhaps if those elected officials were Senators, or Governors, or Representatives it would. Sell me.
I do not say this to denigrate the fine individuals who have gotten elected and are now serving, but you raised the fact that the majority of speakers at the Democratic and Republican national conventions are elected officials. Yes they are, and they represent a microscopic percentage of their respective party’s elected officials. They are not chosen to speak because they are elected – they are chosen because they are dynamic and inspirational speakers. If we have such people, then by all means we should schedule them. Please enlighten us with a list of dynamic and inspirational elected libertarians that are either NOT going to be delegates, or will pay all of their own expenses. Oh – be sure to tell them that they will be forbidden from running for any LNC position.
If we do it your way, will you personally cover any shortfall due to low attendance?
Since you’re such an expert, why haven’t you volunteered to be on the CMC or the COC (or any other LNC committee for that matter)?
In closing, I might be more receptive to your opinion if it was not for the perception I have that all you do is whine and moan about what other people are doing, while doing nothing of value to the LNC, or the Libertarian Party, or to the liberty movement in general. Heck – you wait until this late to voice your opinion that we should be focusing on elected officials as speakers? Did it take this long for you to come to this opinion, or have you just been waiting to criticize the work of others, while doing no work that anyone can criticize? Never mind – I know the answer to that question.
Geoffrey Neale
Chair
Libertarian National Committee
PS: Attendance at the National Convention is not mandatory.
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