Which states require a Certificate of Nomination?
Mr. Fishman or Mr. Johnston if you can answer this. If any of the early states require this, a bifurcated convention will not help them because I will not sign it before ratified. And if we have an all online convention, I will not be signing any ever. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Dear Ms. Harlos, I will answer your question because I have personal experience in this matter. I signed all 57 certificates of nomination that are sent to the relevant authorities in every state and territory where Presidential elections are held after the 2016 nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. One of the deadlines was sufficiently close to the end of the convention that I had to print a copy of the form while on a family cruise vacation and find a post office in Puerto Rico on a port of call to send it via priority mail to the convention Secretary so she could countersign it and get it filed in time. Many of the states require notarization, but not all. Ms Mattson could also provide further information, since that was a coordinated process that she did a phenomenal job of coordinating. You are correct that holding an electronic meeting that is not a convention would not be a legal nomination until there was a ratification at a convention, so it would be improper to attest that something was final prior to subsequent ratification. If, for whatever reason, there was not a convention held prior to August 31, any actions taken by that prior meeting would be unable to be ratified and exist in a situation of legal uncertainty. If you are unable or unwilling to perform the most important duty of convention secretary, it would be incumbent upon you to inform the assembled delegates of that inability or unwillingness at the outset of that convention so they could choose someone else to serve as convention secretary who would be able and willing to perform all the duties of the office. Yours truly, Nick On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:24 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Fishman or Mr. Johnston if you can answer this. If any of the early states require this, a bifurcated convention will not help them because I will not sign it before ratified. And if we have an all online convention, I will not be signing any ever.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
If there is an in person convention with ratification (some qualifications there but that is basically correct) there is no issue. And per the bylaws I am the convention secretary, and I will not relinquish that position. It appears we agree. I want to know what states require such a certificate for timing purposes. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 4:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
I will answer your question because I have personal experience in this matter. I signed all 57 certificates of nomination that are sent to the relevant authorities in every state and territory where Presidential elections are held after the 2016 nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. One of the deadlines was sufficiently close to the end of the convention that I had to print a copy of the form while on a family cruise vacation and find a post office in Puerto Rico on a port of call to send it via priority mail to the convention Secretary so she could countersign it and get it filed in time. Many of the states require notarization, but not all. Ms Mattson could also provide further information, since that was a coordinated process that she did a phenomenal job of coordinating.
You are correct that holding an electronic meeting that is not a convention would not be a legal nomination until there was a ratification at a convention, so it would be improper to attest that something was final prior to subsequent ratification. If, for whatever reason, there was not a convention held prior to August 31, any actions taken by that prior meeting would be unable to be ratified and exist in a situation of legal uncertainty.
If you are unable or unwilling to perform the most important duty of convention secretary, it would be incumbent upon you to inform the assembled delegates of that inability or unwillingness at the outset of that convention so they could choose someone else to serve as convention secretary who would be able and willing to perform all the duties of the office.
Yours truly, Nick
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:24 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Fishman or Mr. Johnston if you can answer this. If any of the early states require this, a bifurcated convention will not help them because I will not sign it before ratified. And if we have an all online convention, I will not be signing any ever.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
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