Nomination forms for President and Vice President
Dear All, Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions. To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend. The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July? Yours truly, Nick
I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws. I do not appreciate your belittling of my position by the use of scare quotes. However I’m also aware that the objectionable language is not required so I think your attempt to force the issue by using the exact same forms is dishonorable. If the physical convention is canceled by some act this weekend then my position may change and I have secured the agreement of counsel to represent me in modifying the forms to be in accordance with state laws in those states and truthful. On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions.
To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend.
The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?
Yours truly, Nick
-- *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
My question is what will be the location for the convention which is included on these forms? --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-22 08:40, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws. I do not appreciate your belittling of my position by the use of scare quotes.
However I’m also aware that the objectionable language is not required so I think your attempt to force the issue by using the exact same forms is dishonorable.
If the physical convention is canceled by some act this weekend then my position may change and I have secured the agreement of counsel to represent me in modifying the forms to be in accordance with state laws in those states and truthful.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions.
To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend.
The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?
Yours truly, Nick
Dear Ms. Harlos, Your response appears to have avoided answering my question, which I've repeated again below: “Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?” Yours truly, Nick On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws. I do not appreciate your belittling of my position by the use of scare quotes.
However I’m also aware that the objectionable language is not required so I think your attempt to force the issue by using the exact same forms is dishonorable.
If the physical convention is canceled by some act this weekend then my position may change and I have secured the agreement of counsel to represent me in modifying the forms to be in accordance with state laws in those states and truthful.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions.
To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend.
The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?
Yours truly, Nick
--
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
My answer was clear. If you are still unclear call me. I’m not interested in this political gamesmanship. On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:08 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
" I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws."
Does not to me appear to be unclear.
The lack of clarity seems to be from the other end, as the attached forms are clearly from 2016 and do not reflect exactly what they would read in 2020.
Unless there is some other thing that is not being clearly stated.
I tire of these games, as do many members. Can the bullshit and play it straight up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 22, 2020 8:54 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
Your response appears to have avoided answering my question, which I've repeated again below:
“Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?”
Yours truly, Nick
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
wrote:
I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws. I do not appreciate your belittling of my position by the use of scare quotes.
However I’m also aware that the objectionable language is not required so I think your attempt to force the issue by using the exact same forms is dishonorable.
If the physical convention is canceled by some act this weekend then my position may change and I have secured the agreement of counsel to represent me in modifying the forms to be in accordance with state laws in those states and truthful.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions.
To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend.
The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?
Yours truly, Nick
--
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
--
*In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
I also add that the secretary's answer was pretty clear. Sam brings up a good question. What will the location be? Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Fri, May 22, 2020, 07:10 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
My answer was clear. If you are still unclear call me. I’m not interested in this political gamesmanship.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:08 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
" I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws."
Does not to me appear to be unclear.
The lack of clarity seems to be from the other end, as the attached forms are clearly from 2016 and do not reflect exactly what they would read in 2020.
Unless there is some other thing that is not being clearly stated.
I tire of these games, as do many members. Can the bullshit and play it straight up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 22, 2020 8:54 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
Your response appears to have avoided answering my question, which I've repeated again below:
“Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?”
Yours truly, Nick
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
wrote:
I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws. I do not appreciate your belittling of my position by the use of scare quotes.
However I’m also aware that the objectionable language is not required so I think your attempt to force the issue by using the exact same forms is dishonorable.
If the physical convention is canceled by some act this weekend then my position may change and I have secured the agreement of counsel to represent me in modifying the forms to be in accordance with state laws in those states and truthful.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions.
To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend.
The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?
Yours truly, Nick
--
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
--
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
Probably should be wherever the host of the meeting is located. On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 9:58 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I also add that the secretary's answer was pretty clear. Sam brings up a good question.
What will the location be?
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Fri, May 22, 2020, 07:10 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
My answer was clear. If you are still unclear call me. I’m not interested in this political gamesmanship.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:08 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
" I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws."
Does not to me appear to be unclear.
The lack of clarity seems to be from the other end, as the attached forms are clearly from 2016 and do not reflect exactly what they would read in 2020.
Unless there is some other thing that is not being clearly stated.
I tire of these games, as do many members. Can the bullshit and play it straight up.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 22, 2020 8:54 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
Your response appears to have avoided answering my question, which I've repeated again below:
“Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?”
Yours truly, Nick
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org>
wrote:
I had already indicated that I was comfortable signing them if the LNC bifurcated the convention which I believe is in accordance with our bylaws. I do not appreciate your belittling of my position by the use of scare quotes.
However I’m also aware that the objectionable language is not required so I think your attempt to force the issue by using the exact same forms is dishonorable.
If the physical convention is canceled by some act this weekend then my position may change and I have secured the agreement of counsel to represent me in modifying the forms to be in accordance with state laws in those states and truthful.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:49 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Attached are the nomination forms printed and signed by the convention chair and secretary in 2016 after the nomination of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. They are in two separate attachments, one for Kansas, which had an early deadline, and one for the other 56 jurisdictions.
To maintain ballot access in the maximum number of states, it is my intent to send these signed forms out on the first business day after the online convention that will be gaveled in tonight and completed over this weekend.
The Secretary has previously indicated a belief that she could not in good conscience sign these forms after the close of an online convention without a belief that she would be engaging in “perjury.” Is it still the case that the Secretary would object to signing these certificates of nomination this coming week after the nomination of President and Vice Presidential candidates in our online convention and in advance of a second sitting of the convention in Orlando in July?
Yours truly, Nick
--
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
--
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
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Caryn Ann Harlos -
john.phillips＠lp.org -
Nicholas Sarwark -
Phillip Anderson -
Richard Longstreth -
Sam Goldstein