Impartiality of Chair
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC. See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so. It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I make my own pledge here to you all. I pledge to do my best to uphold the decision of this body out of respect for each of you and the spirit of compromise. I further pledge that no matter what happens I will discharge my duties to the best of my abilities to make it a success and will not use my position to sabotage this committee. So let it be written. So let it be done. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:25 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams@lp.org> wrote:
I saw this as well. I also find it incredibly disturbing. I realize saying so likely won't matter but I can't not say anything because I truly believe it to be incredibly inappropriate
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I would be intrigued to hear how the chair views his participation in that poll as impartial. Knowing that Facebook shows who voters are, I as a policy do not participate in polls that would require some level of impartiality, such as presidential opinion polls leading up to convention. If I can exercise that restraint from my office and on my own Region 1 polls despite some personal thoughts, I would expect that the chair be able to do the same. Having your personal thoughts is fine; violating impartiality is not and does not show that you represent everyone. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sun, May 10, 2020, 20:25 Erin Adams via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I saw this as well. I also find it incredibly disturbing. I realize saying so likely won't matter but I can't not say anything because I truly believe it to be incredibly inappropriate
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Having been the unjust subject of resignation rhetoric I will not do that to someone else. I do urge the chair though if he wishes to be a partisan to find someone else to chair the online portion. Then he can be as partisan as he wishes. And I don't mean just for that section - the partiality taints the whole lot. Turn over the entire convention gavel to another for the sake of integrity of this process. Do not rip apart this party with controversy that will still not be healed a decade from now. I implore you. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:30 PM <joshua.smith@lp.org> wrote:
Are you really suprised? After a full week of the Chair trying his hardest to tip the scales? After we opened the door for this? A few hours after voting that the internet could not he considered a "place" in our byalws we voted to have our convention on the internet.
He got half of what he wanted, and of course will push for the rest. The agenda is clear.
There is no more impartiality. That went out the window over a week ago. If he wants to continue to push to violate our bylaws, the will of the board, and the will of many of our delegates, then the Chair should resign. Hand the gavel off, and join the fight. He should not continue to try and put his finger on the scale while in his position.
Plain and simple.
In liberty, Joshua
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention. Nick, please divulge your intentions to us. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom" On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on. Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real. The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us. ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Fellow LNC members, I feel we were presented with an example of only one thing the Chair voted on in that poll, not the full picture. I just found the same voting thread and want to share the other option Mr Sarwarck voted on (attached picture) in which he also says he will be attending and supporting the in person section as well. It is possible to hold both beliefs and I'm not sure this so much falls into bias given full context. Calls to demonize our chair are just as bad as our chair pushing an agenda. Be fair with each other. I will call out what I see but would hope that I would be presented with the whole story to judge fairly. Yes, Nick should remain impartial, however, by voting for multiple sides, he seems to be maintaining that to a degree. I still think it best that ALL of us remain neutral on such polling and let the body do as it does if it does. Painting each other or delegates as enemies of the party for disagreeing with your interpretation or viewpoint is very troublesome. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Sun, May 10, 2020, 22:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on.
Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real.
The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us.
ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I was aware of that Mr Longstreth but I do not believe that mitigates this situation. Why? That is the AFTER scenario. IF the first attempt fails then of course one would go. That does not mitigate a pledge by the chair while presiding to subvert the will of the LNC. Not at all. Many many people who want to force an all online convention will also attend. They are not mutually exclusive nor does it mitigate the extreme bias. On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 7:21 AM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Fellow LNC members,
I feel we were presented with an example of only one thing the Chair voted on in that poll, not the full picture. I just found the same voting thread and want to share the other option Mr Sarwarck voted on (attached picture) in which he also says he will be attending and supporting the in person section as well. It is possible to hold both beliefs and I'm not sure this so much falls into bias given full context.
Calls to demonize our chair are just as bad as our chair pushing an agenda. Be fair with each other. I will call out what I see but would hope that I would be presented with the whole story to judge fairly. Yes, Nick should remain impartial, however, by voting for multiple sides, he seems to be maintaining that to a degree.
I still think it best that ALL of us remain neutral on such polling and let the body do as it does if it does. Painting each other or delegates as enemies of the party for disagreeing with your interpretation or viewpoint is very troublesome.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 10, 2020, 22:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on.
Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real.
The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us.
ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
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* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Fair enough if that is your interpretation. To be honest, any officer voting in any of these polls violates the impartiality of this board to me. The officers include the chair, vice chair, secretary, and treasurer as a reminder. Regional representatives, I urge caution in participation because it violates impartiality in representing your entire region. Really, only at large members can vote on the types of polls, in my mind, without violating impartiality unless, of course, they are seeking an officer or regional role. I understand that impartiality in this case is specifically referring to chairing parts of the convention but on a larger level, the delegates now have a choice to make on their own. We represent the delegates and should not be skewing their opinions one way or another. It is a violation of their right to dictate to us what they want. I also understand that my view on impartiality is much more narrow than some of my peers and always has been which is why I will stay quiet on all these matters going forward and keep my thoughts to myself. Overall, I think this entire board does a poor job of remaining impartial on delegate matters. If the delegates view anyone's actions online as inappropriate they will let it be known in a few short weeks and we have more important things to focus on gearing up to that. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, May 11, 2020, 06:25 <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification Richard. Tho I am not sure I agree that it is an improvement. It at best it changes nothing and if someone wanted to put the worst possible spin on it, arguably worse.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 11, 2020 8:21 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Fellow LNC members,
I feel we were presented with an example of only one thing the Chair voted on in that poll, not the full picture. I just found the same voting thread and want to share the other option Mr Sarwarck voted on (attached picture) in which he also says he will be attending and supporting the in person section as well. It is possible to hold both beliefs and I'm not sure this so much falls into bias given full context.
Calls to demonize our chair are just as bad as our chair pushing an agenda. Be fair with each other. I will call out what I see but would hope that I would be presented with the whole story to judge fairly. Yes, Nick should remain impartial, however, by voting for multiple sides, he seems to be maintaining that to a degree.
I still think it best that ALL of us remain neutral on such polling and let the body do as it does if it does. Painting each other or delegates as enemies of the party for disagreeing with your interpretation or viewpoint is very troublesome.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 10, 2020, 22:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on.
Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real.
The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us.
ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org>
wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
No one else is required to be impartial. That is not an interpretation that bears weight unless you want to provide a policy manual revision. Or should John Phillips not have supported his own race? The chair is a position of great honour with special responsibilities. Others have much much more latitude. Please site me in RONR or our policy manual where that impartiality is required of anyone else. That may be your personal conviction, and I respect that, but you cannot impose that on other people. We are allowed to get on the mic and debate as well. The chair is not. You are free to your strict interpretation but to impose that on other people, no, that is not proper. On this post we are dealing with RONR and our policy manual where relevant (it isn't here). And RONR does not hold your view in order to give it binding authority on other. I view your position something akin to my pacifism. I hold that view. It is quite strict. I wish everyone was a pacificist. But I do not chastise those who are not as lethal self defense is a fundamental right that I have no place to demand they set aside lest they seem less ethical than me. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:04 AM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Fair enough if that is your interpretation. To be honest, any officer voting in any of these polls violates the impartiality of this board to me. The officers include the chair, vice chair, secretary, and treasurer as a reminder. Regional representatives, I urge caution in participation because it violates impartiality in representing your entire region. Really, only at large members can vote on the types of polls, in my mind, without violating impartiality unless, of course, they are seeking an officer or regional role.
I understand that impartiality in this case is specifically referring to chairing parts of the convention but on a larger level, the delegates now have a choice to make on their own. We represent the delegates and should not be skewing their opinions one way or another. It is a violation of their right to dictate to us what they want.
I also understand that my view on impartiality is much more narrow than some of my peers and always has been which is why I will stay quiet on all these matters going forward and keep my thoughts to myself. Overall, I think this entire board does a poor job of remaining impartial on delegate matters. If the delegates view anyone's actions online as inappropriate they will let it be known in a few short weeks and we have more important things to focus on gearing up to that.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Mon, May 11, 2020, 06:25 <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification Richard. Tho I am not sure I agree that it is an improvement. It at best it changes nothing and if someone wanted to put the worst possible spin on it, arguably worse.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 11, 2020 8:21 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Fellow LNC members,
I feel we were presented with an example of only one thing the Chair voted on in that poll, not the full picture. I just found the same voting thread and want to share the other option Mr Sarwarck voted on (attached picture) in which he also says he will be attending and supporting the in person section as well. It is possible to hold both beliefs and I'm not sure this so much falls into bias given full context.
Calls to demonize our chair are just as bad as our chair pushing an agenda. Be fair with each other. I will call out what I see but would hope that I would be presented with the whole story to judge fairly. Yes, Nick should remain impartial, however, by voting for multiple sides, he seems to be maintaining that to a degree.
I still think it best that ALL of us remain neutral on such polling and let the body do as it does if it does. Painting each other or delegates as enemies of the party for disagreeing with your interpretation or viewpoint is very troublesome.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 10, 2020, 22:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on.
Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real.
The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us.
ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila@lp.org>
wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is inappropriate. Yet again.
I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next meeting.
I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, but there it is.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online over the wishes of the LNC.
See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to do so.
It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that I not be.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Sigh. Paragraph 1 - John was a declared candidate which is a specific nuanced difference in my mind. We as an LNC practice not supporting any candidate until after nomination. Many of this board extend that to their own personal views. I am one of them. Paragraph 2&3 - I cannot cite my personal opinion and how I exercise my role in Roberts or the PM because, obviously, it is my personal viewpoint and opinion. Also, I never said I would or wanted to impose my viewpoint on other people, I just shared it with the group. I do not want to amend our policy manual in this way. Paragraph 4 - How you describe your pacifist views seems similar to my views on this which is why I will not bring forward a policy manual or other rule change. I will also not chastise the chair or yourself for being vocal on this. If the chair advocates for a specific position and he is holding the gavel, I expect him to turn it over or the delegates to demand he do such. As a delegate I have personal thoughts, as an LNC member, I'm not going to be supporting a call to censure or anything like that based on someone taking a poll. I am already fighting members of my region on calling a censure on another member of this board for broadcasting that they will not execute their duty. My reasoning for not pursuing that is the same for not pursuing this any further, at this time: times are heated, opinions are strong, all are operating from a place that they feel is best for the party, nobody has caused any actual harm as far as I can tell. We all have opinions and say things in the moment we maybe shouldn't. As Mr Merced said in our meeting, I wish we could come from a place of working together and forgiveness to get what needs to be done, done. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Mon, May 11, 2020, 07:16 Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No one else is required to be impartial. That is not an interpretation that bears weight unless you want to provide a policy manual revision. Or should John Phillips not have supported his own race?
The chair is a position of great honour with special responsibilities. Others have much much more latitude. Please site me in RONR or our policy manual where that impartiality is required of anyone else. That may be your personal conviction, and I respect that, but you cannot impose that on other people.
We are allowed to get on the mic and debate as well. The chair is not. You are free to your strict interpretation but to impose that on other people, no, that is not proper.
On this post we are dealing with RONR and our policy manual where relevant (it isn't here). And RONR does not hold your view in order to give it binding authority on other. I view your position something akin to my pacifism. I hold that view. It is quite strict. I wish everyone was a pacificist. But I do not chastise those who are not as lethal self defense is a fundamental right that I have no place to demand they set aside lest they seem less ethical than me.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:04 AM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Fair enough if that is your interpretation. To be honest, any officer voting in any of these polls violates the impartiality of this board to me. The officers include the chair, vice chair, secretary, and treasurer as a reminder. Regional representatives, I urge caution in participation because it violates impartiality in representing your entire region. Really, only at large members can vote on the types of polls, in my mind, without violating impartiality unless, of course, they are seeking an officer or regional role.
I understand that impartiality in this case is specifically referring to chairing parts of the convention but on a larger level, the delegates now have a choice to make on their own. We represent the delegates and should not be skewing their opinions one way or another. It is a violation of their right to dictate to us what they want.
I also understand that my view on impartiality is much more narrow than some of my peers and always has been which is why I will stay quiet on all these matters going forward and keep my thoughts to myself. Overall, I think this entire board does a poor job of remaining impartial on delegate matters. If the delegates view anyone's actions online as inappropriate they will let it be known in a few short weeks and we have more important things to focus on gearing up to that.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Mon, May 11, 2020, 06:25 <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification Richard. Tho I am not sure I agree that it is an improvement. It at best it changes nothing and if someone wanted to put the worst possible spin on it, arguably worse.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 11, 2020 8:21 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Fellow LNC members,
I feel we were presented with an example of only one thing the Chair voted on in that poll, not the full picture. I just found the same voting thread and want to share the other option Mr Sarwarck voted on (attached picture) in which he also says he will be attending and supporting the in person section as well. It is possible to hold both beliefs and I'm not sure this so much falls into bias given full context.
Calls to demonize our chair are just as bad as our chair pushing an agenda. Be fair with each other. I will call out what I see but would hope that I would be presented with the whole story to judge fairly. Yes, Nick should remain impartial, however, by voting for multiple sides, he seems to be maintaining that to a degree.
I still think it best that ALL of us remain neutral on such polling and let the body do as it does if it does. Painting each other or delegates as enemies of the party for disagreeing with your interpretation or viewpoint is very troublesome.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 10, 2020, 22:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on.
Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real.
The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us.
ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila <
steven.nekhaila@lp.org>
wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to know.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
> I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is > inappropriate. > Yet again. > > I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on > Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next > meeting. > > I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary > action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, > but > there it is. > > John Phillips > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative > Cell 217-412-5973 > > On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality > required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making > amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online > over > the > wishes of the LNC. > > See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to > do > so. > > It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that > I > not > be. > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If > anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social > faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. > * > > >
I have said all I wish. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:47 AM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Sigh.
Paragraph 1 - John was a declared candidate which is a specific nuanced difference in my mind. We as an LNC practice not supporting any candidate until after nomination. Many of this board extend that to their own personal views. I am one of them.
Paragraph 2&3 - I cannot cite my personal opinion and how I exercise my role in Roberts or the PM because, obviously, it is my personal viewpoint and opinion. Also, I never said I would or wanted to impose my viewpoint on other people, I just shared it with the group. I do not want to amend our policy manual in this way.
Paragraph 4 - How you describe your pacifist views seems similar to my views on this which is why I will not bring forward a policy manual or other rule change. I will also not chastise the chair or yourself for being vocal on this.
If the chair advocates for a specific position and he is holding the gavel, I expect him to turn it over or the delegates to demand he do such. As a delegate I have personal thoughts, as an LNC member, I'm not going to be supporting a call to censure or anything like that based on someone taking a poll. I am already fighting members of my region on calling a censure on another member of this board for broadcasting that they will not execute their duty. My reasoning for not pursuing that is the same for not pursuing this any further, at this time: times are heated, opinions are strong, all are operating from a place that they feel is best for the party, nobody has caused any actual harm as far as I can tell. We all have opinions and say things in the moment we maybe shouldn't. As Mr Merced said in our meeting, I wish we could come from a place of working together and forgiveness to get what needs to be done, done.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Mon, May 11, 2020, 07:16 Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No one else is required to be impartial. That is not an interpretation that bears weight unless you want to provide a policy manual revision. Or should John Phillips not have supported his own race?
The chair is a position of great honour with special responsibilities. Others have much much more latitude. Please site me in RONR or our policy manual where that impartiality is required of anyone else. That may be your personal conviction, and I respect that, but you cannot impose that on other people.
We are allowed to get on the mic and debate as well. The chair is not. You are free to your strict interpretation but to impose that on other people, no, that is not proper.
On this post we are dealing with RONR and our policy manual where relevant (it isn't here). And RONR does not hold your view in order to give it binding authority on other. I view your position something akin to my pacifism. I hold that view. It is quite strict. I wish everyone was a pacificist. But I do not chastise those who are not as lethal self defense is a fundamental right that I have no place to demand they set aside lest they seem less ethical than me.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:04 AM Richard Longstreth < richard.longstreth@lp.org> wrote:
Fair enough if that is your interpretation. To be honest, any officer voting in any of these polls violates the impartiality of this board to me. The officers include the chair, vice chair, secretary, and treasurer as a reminder. Regional representatives, I urge caution in participation because it violates impartiality in representing your entire region. Really, only at large members can vote on the types of polls, in my mind, without violating impartiality unless, of course, they are seeking an officer or regional role.
I understand that impartiality in this case is specifically referring to chairing parts of the convention but on a larger level, the delegates now have a choice to make on their own. We represent the delegates and should not be skewing their opinions one way or another. It is a violation of their right to dictate to us what they want.
I also understand that my view on impartiality is much more narrow than some of my peers and always has been which is why I will stay quiet on all these matters going forward and keep my thoughts to myself. Overall, I think this entire board does a poor job of remaining impartial on delegate matters. If the delegates view anyone's actions online as inappropriate they will let it be known in a few short weeks and we have more important things to focus on gearing up to that.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Mon, May 11, 2020, 06:25 <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification Richard. Tho I am not sure I agree that it is an improvement. It at best it changes nothing and if someone wanted to put the worst possible spin on it, arguably worse.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 11, 2020 8:21 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Fellow LNC members,
I feel we were presented with an example of only one thing the Chair voted on in that poll, not the full picture. I just found the same voting thread and want to share the other option Mr Sarwarck voted on (attached picture) in which he also says he will be attending and supporting the in person section as well. It is possible to hold both beliefs and I'm not sure this so much falls into bias given full context.
Calls to demonize our chair are just as bad as our chair pushing an agenda. Be fair with each other. I will call out what I see but would hope that I would be presented with the whole story to judge fairly. Yes, Nick should remain impartial, however, by voting for multiple sides, he seems to be maintaining that to a degree.
I still think it best that ALL of us remain neutral on such polling and let the body do as it does if it does. Painting each other or delegates as enemies of the party for disagreeing with your interpretation or viewpoint is very troublesome.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Sun, May 10, 2020, 22:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We've been snowed. Simple as that. There is no intent to honor the hard-won compromise, and I am inclined to urge the LNC to take other action as there is zero confidence in what was voted on.
Let me give you all the simple reality here. We are duty bound to consider worst case scenario. We have a bullshit online fiasco and get hit with 51 lawsuits AND no fundraising convention. We are bankrupt. Reality bites. There are already actual party members ready to sue. I think that is terrible, but it is real.
The Adams motion is the route we should have taken. Period. End. That is the ONLY compromise that will stop these games, and I ask everyone where they stand. And if Chair Sarwark tries once again to insinuate "agree with me or I will accept your resignation" don't let anyone face that alone as we allowed Ms. Mattson to. Shame on us.
ONE person has consistently subverted the will of this body. The one person that should never do it. Our chair. Wake up.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:43 PM Steven Nekhaila < steven.nekhaila@lp.org> wrote:
If Chairman Sarwark truly wishes to convince the delegation to take action that would go against the motion the body set forward, I would implore him to announce his intentions now and allow Vice Chairman Merced to gavel the convention.
Nick, please divulge your intentions to us.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-05-10 11:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > I know the rules Mr. Phillips. Consult me privately if you wish to > know. > > > > * In Liberty,* > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social > faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. > * > > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:33 PM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote: > >> I am not even dead set against online and I agree this is >> inappropriate. >> Yet again. >> >> I find myself regretting both not pursuing my first question harder on >> Saturday rather than backing off, and my motion to cancel the next >> meeting. >> >> I honestly find myself wondering what options we have for disciplinary >> action at this point. Yes I should be more familiar with such rules, >> but >> there it is. >> >> John Phillips >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative >> Cell 217-412-5973 >> >> On May 10, 2020 10:17 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >> Mr. Chair, once again, I implore you to maintain the impartiality >> required. I am concerned about your public pledge to support making >> amending the agenda on May 22 to make the entire convention online >> over >> the >> wishes of the LNC. >> >> See attached screenshot for pledge and Mr. Sarwark's name pledging to >> do >> so. >> >> It would be more convenient for me to stay silent. Duty demands that >> I >> not >> be. >> >> * In Liberty,* >> * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome >> (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If >> anyone >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social >> faux >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. >> * >> >> >>
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