EMAIL BALLOT 200603-01: Change authority to cancel Orlando contract
We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips ============================================= Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a majority of the entire membership of the LNC. ============================================= THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. Please notify me of any discrepancies. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Yes * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I vote yes. -Alicia On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:32 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
I vote Yes on this motion. --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-06-04 03:50, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote yes.
-Alicia
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:32 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Dear All, Is this intended to be a motion to change the terms of an already executed contract? Yours truly, Nick On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Let's not forget that the chair was unauthorized to execute that version of the contract, or to direct staff to execute that contract. This does not change the terms of the contract. It is the LNC saying what conditions are necessary for those clauses to be exercised. Regardless, I think the existing rules already require LNC consent to cancel, but the chair seems to disagree. This motion is the LNC giving a directive, to which the chair is subject according to our bylaws. -Alicia On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:14 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Is this intended to be a motion to change the terms of an already executed contract?
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Yes. Bill Redpath On 2020-06-04 01:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Yes On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 1:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Dear All, This motion is out of order. A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract. A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order. But this motion is not. Yours truly, Nick On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote. I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling. -Alicia On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list. If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... *
Dear Ms. Harlos, If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested in reading it. Yours truly, Nick On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list.
If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
I am not making one. I am stating an opinion. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:22 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested in reading it.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list.
If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
Reminder, this ballot ends tomorrow. You can view status of who remains to vote here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:43 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
I am not making one. I am stating an opinion.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:22 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested in reading it.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list.
If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
Yes Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 07:04 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Reminder, this ballot ends tomorrow. You can view status of who remains to vote here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
•In Liberty,*
• Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:43 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
I am not making one. I am stating an opinion.
•In Liberty,*
• Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:22 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested in reading it.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list.
If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party
•In Liberty,*
• Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen > Shingle > > Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a > > majority of the entire membership of the LNC. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of > the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > • In Liberty,* > • Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. • >
I vote Aye on this motion. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom" On 2020-06-09 10:04 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
Reminder, this ballot ends tomorrow. You can view status of who remains to vote here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
•In Liberty,*
• Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:43 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
I am not making one. I am stating an opinion.
•In Liberty,*
• Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:22 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested in reading it.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list.
If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party
•In Liberty,*
• Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
This motion is out of order.
A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already executed contract.
A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any circumstance would be in order.
But this motion is not.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > Pacific time. > > Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips > > ============================================= > > > Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen > Shingle > > Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a > > majority of the entire membership of the LNC. > > ============================================= > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of > the sheet. > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > • In Liberty,* > • Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. • >
I vote Yes. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Rep On 2020-06-09 17:18, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business wrote:
I vote Aye on this motion.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative Libertarian National Committee
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
On 2020-06-09 10:04 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
Reminder, this ballot ends tomorrow. You can view status of who remains to vote here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:43 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
I am not making one. I am stating an opinion.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:22 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
If there is something that leads you to believe you have the authority to make parliamentary rulings without a vote of the body, I'm very interested in reading it.
Yours truly, Nick
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:16 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Here are my thoughts and what I intend to do. This motion is not out of order and Ms. Mattson noted correctly a pattern of behaviour. And I fully believe that if we start one on a policy manual change the chair will then try to claim it can't apply to existing contracts though it certainly can. I encourage people to vote on this ballot and on a policy manual change that I am going to workshop with people off list.
If at the end the chair rules this one out of order still, I will appeal the ruling of the chair. It is unfortunate that our chair is making things so tedious but if that is the game we are forced to play, I will do for the good of the Party
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:10 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agreed Ms Adams,
which is what I thought we had been discussing, and admittedly did not check closely when it popped up amongst being bombarded by the latest email form blast.
I would change my vote but I believe it is moot at this point as I understand corrected language is being worked on.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 4, 2020 2:31 PM, "erin.adams--- via Lnc-business" < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
If a motion like this is going to be moved it should be in my opinion moved as a policy manual change that affects all contracts of a similar nature moving forward. If it's good policy, and I believe that it is, then it should Simply Be Good policy and not a one-time usage clause
Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
On Jun 4, 2020 1:43 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The chair's attempt to abuse his authority continues, with this attempt to declare anything he dislikes to be "out of order." This motion has been on the list with cosponsors for two days, yet the chair waited until voting was underway to say anything. His ruling is neither correct nor timely, and it's just obstructionism. He will play us all the way to Orlando if we let him, so let's continue the vote.
I vote yes again, just to emphasize my opinion of the chair's attempted ruling.
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:35 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Dear All, > > This motion is out of order. > > A vote of the LNC has no legal effect on the provisions of an already > executed contract. > > A motion to change the Policy Manual would be in order. A motion to > rescind the executed contract would be in order. A motion resolving the > sense of the LNC that the Chair should not cancel the contract under any > circumstance would be in order. > > But this motion is not. > > Yours truly, > Nick > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm > > Pacific time. > > > > Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen > > Shingle > > > > Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a > > > > majority of the entire membership of the LNC. > > > > ============================================= > > > > THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority > > > > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > > > > >
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
> > Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. > You > > can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of > > the sheet. > > > > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > > > * In Liberty,* > > * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > > (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * > > >
I vote yes, assuming the motion is in order. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-06-03 23:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY... Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Mr. Bishop-Henchman, I am presuming that the chair is holding it to be out of order, when the vote finishes, I intend upon appealing the ruling of the chair. Such things get very awkward in email ballots. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:56 PM joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I also vote yes, assuming the motion is in order.
On Jun 10, 2020 11:54 PM, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote yes, assuming the motion is in order.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-03 23:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Mid-motion, the Chair indicated that he would be ruling this motion out of order. If it is in order, it would pass 13-0-4. I will be asking for sponsors in another thread to appeal the ruling of the chair that this motion is out of order. Depending on the outcome of that, I will post the results of this email ballot. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:47 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote:
Mr. Bishop-Henchman, I am presuming that the chair is holding it to be out of order, when the vote finishes, I intend upon appealing the ruling of the chair. Such things get very awkward in email ballots.
*In Liberty,*
* Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:56 PM joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I also vote yes, assuming the motion is in order.
On Jun 10, 2020 11:54 PM, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote yes, assuming the motion is in order.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-03 23:32, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JJune 10, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Goldstein, Harlos, Mattson, Phillips
=============================================
Motion: Cancellation or force majeure clauses in the contract with Rosen Shingle
Creek for the 2020 convention in Orlando, FL may only be exercised by a
majority of the entire membership of the LNC.
=============================================
THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple Majority
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsY...
Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
participants (15)
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Alicia Mattson -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
erin.adams＠lp.org -
Jeff Hewitt -
joe.bishop-henchman＠lp.org -
john.phillips＠lp.org -
joshua.smith＠lp.org -
Nicholas Sarwark -
Richard Longstreth -
Sam Goldstein -
Steven Nekhaila -
Tim Hagan -
Whitney Bilyeu -
William Redpath