Regional Agreements and Request for Opinion of Chair
Our bylaws state this: 2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members: a. the officers of the Party; b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and c. any additional members as specified below: Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of the Convention at which they take place. And the convention rules say this: 4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the selection. Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame. Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Dear Ms. Harlos, The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day. I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space. Yours truly, Nick On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
There is no requirement, I just wanted to make the offer. -Nick On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote:
Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting space or can we set up our own?
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Region 1 is in the process of gathering signatures for the updated regional agreement from the state chairs. Our current intent is to have a fully signed agreement prior to the convention. --- FRANCIS WENDT LNC Region 1 Alternate 406.595.5111 On 2020-05-12 09:40, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
Thank you, and the offer is appreciated. Just wanted to not mess it up if they asked.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 10:22 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair@lp.org> wrote:
There is no requirement, I just wanted to make the offer.
-Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM <john.phillips@lp.org> wrote: Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting space or can we set up our own?
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
We'd be pretty terrible libertarians if we required you to use the national space for regional meetings. We will have zoom space available, but it's up to each region to decide what they want to do.. --- Daniel Fishman Executive Director The Libertarian Party Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting space or can we set up our own?
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
Region 1 would like the LNC room on Saturday about 6 EST for two hours if it is available for the purpose of regional caucusing Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Tue, May 12, 2020, 09:56 Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We'd be pretty terrible libertarians if we required you to use the national space for regional meetings. We will have zoom space available, but it's up to each region to decide what they want to do..
--- Daniel Fishman Executive Director The Libertarian Party Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting space or can we set up our own?
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
Richard, Are you assuming the POTUS/VP selection process will be over then? --- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2020-05-12 13:01, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
Region 1 would like the LNC room on Saturday about 6 EST for two hours if it is available for the purpose of regional caucusing
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 09:56 Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We'd be pretty terrible libertarians if we required you to use the national space for regional meetings. We will have zoom space available, but it's up to each region to decide what they want to do..
--- Daniel Fishman Executive Director The Libertarian Party Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting space or can we set up our own?
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
No, but that process happens on the 23rd and I am requesting for this weekend. Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device On Tue, May 12, 2020, 10:22 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
Richard,
Are you assuming the POTUS/VP selection process will be over then?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-05-12 13:01, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
Region 1 would like the LNC room on Saturday about 6 EST for two hours if it is available for the purpose of regional caucusing
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
Sent from my Mobile Device
On Tue, May 12, 2020, 09:56 Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We'd be pretty terrible libertarians if we required you to use the national space for regional meetings. We will have zoom space available, but it's up to each region to decide what they want to do..
--- Daniel Fishman Executive Director The Libertarian Party Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting space or can we set up our own?
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
Thank you - that lets me get the state chairs informed. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:56 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear Ms. Harlos,
The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting planned in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like to have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning, or debate events that are using the space.
Yours truly, Nick
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Our bylaws state this:
2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
a. the officers of the Party;
b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular Convention; and
c. any additional members as specified below:
Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party sustaining membership
within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall be entitled to one
National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band together to
form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate national
party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one National
Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national party
sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or dissolved once
every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning of and
ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new formations
or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary prior to the close of
the Convention at which they take place.
And the convention rules say this:
4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of its National
Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect its regional
representative and alternate, provided there are at least five delegates present. Each
Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in whatever manner they
choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal voice in the
selection.
Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of this by this online convention. I do not believe however that is the only interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the convention referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at the physical convention. Though I could argue both ways. But since LNC elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability for those, I think the regionals fall there too. I think requiring the regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and could result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this critical time between sessions. An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of the ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the time clock for regionals in that time frame.
Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP? I need to resend the regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to clarify this situation with them.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *
participants (9)
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Caryn Ann Harlos -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
Daniel Fishman -
Francis Wendt -
john.phillips＠lp.org -
justin.odonnell＠lp.org -
Nicholas Sarwark -
Richard Longstreth -
Sam Goldstein