Email Ballot 2017-13: Issues of LPNews
We have an electronic mail ballot. *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest *Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman. -Alicia
Yes ~David Pratt Demarest On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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No On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest <dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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-- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*
Yes. Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest <dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote: Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
Motion: to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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-- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft
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Yes. Patrick McKnight Region 8 Rep On Jun 21, 2017 7:09 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Yes.
Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member
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On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest <dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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-- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*
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In my capacity as Region 3 Representative, I vote Aye on email ballot 2017-13. Brett C. Bittner Region 3 Representative Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/> brett.bittner@lp.org 317.537.8344 On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Patrick McKnight < patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes.
Patrick McKnight Region 8 Rep
On Jun 21, 2017 7:09 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Yes.
Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member
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On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest <dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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-- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*
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Yes Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee Member at Large 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 Indianapolis IN 46260 317-850-0726 Phone 317-582-1773 Fax On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner@lp.org> wrote:
In my capacity as Region 3 Representative, I vote Aye on email ballot 2017-13.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Representative Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/>
brett.bittner@lp.org 317.537.8344 <(317)%20537-8344>
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Patrick McKnight < patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes.
Patrick McKnight Region 8 Rep
On Jun 21, 2017 7:09 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Yes.
Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member
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On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest <dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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-- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*
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My vote is already trumped, but Region 3 Alternate votes in the affirmative to permit cutting the number of issues to 5 as an exception. While I would personally prefer 6 (or more!) issues, I also know that Wes and the office staff do a lot of work and because I work with Wes on things like Ballot Access I generally trust Wes' judgement. In the future, I'd like to see us ask state affiliates to provide more material for LP News so that less time is necessary to create content, so that recipients feel as though there really is a nationwide movement, and so the state affiliates can learn from one another. ken On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee Member at Large 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 Indianapolis IN 46260 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner@lp.org> wrote:
In my capacity as Region 3 Representative, I vote Aye on email ballot 2017-13.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Representative Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/>
brett.bittner@lp.org 317.537.8344 <(317)%20537-8344>
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Patrick McKnight < patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes.
Patrick McKnight Region 8 Rep
On Jun 21, 2017 7:09 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Yes.
Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member
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On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest < dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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-- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*
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I vote YES. Also, to Ken's point, I already have folks in my state writing content for the upcoming :). I was hoping that would be ok. Whitney Bilyeu Region 7 Representative On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Moellman <lpky@mu-net.org> wrote:
My vote is already trumped, but Region 3 Alternate votes in the affirmative to permit cutting the number of issues to 5 as an exception. While I would personally prefer 6 (or more!) issues, I also know that Wes and the office staff do a lot of work and because I work with Wes on things like Ballot Access I generally trust Wes' judgement. In the future, I'd like to see us ask state affiliates to provide more material for LP News so that less time is necessary to create content, so that recipients feel as though there really is a nationwide movement, and so the state affiliates can learn from one another.
ken
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes
Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee Member at Large 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101 Indianapolis IN 46260 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner@lp.org> wrote:
In my capacity as Region 3 Representative, I vote Aye on email ballot 2017-13.
Brett C. Bittner
Region 3 Representative Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/>
brett.bittner@lp.org 317.537.8344 <(317)%20537-8344>
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Patrick McKnight < patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes.
Patrick McKnight Region 8 Rep
On Jun 21, 2017 7:09 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Yes.
Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member
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On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos < carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:
No
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM David Demarest < dprattdemarest@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes
~David Pratt Demarest
On Jun 21, 2017 3:49 AM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have an electronic mail ballot. > > > *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at > 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* > *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest > > *Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between > publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of > 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman. > > -Alicia > > > _______________________________________________ > Lnc-business mailing list > Lnc-business@hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org > > _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-business@hq.lp.org http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
-- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*
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I vote yes, but not enthusiastically. I believe that this motion, whether adopted or not, will set a precedent that will make the efficient conduct of business harder in the future. I believe it also, perhaps more importantly, throws more confusion into our governance structures and the relationship between staff and the budget. However, voting no would not, in my opinion, remedy any of those concerns, and yes is my desired outcome, so that is how I am voting. Joshua A. Katz On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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I vote yes on the motion . Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Sent: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 01:49 AM Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-13: Issues of LPNews <div id="AOLMsgPart_1.2_feebfa25-3363-4d4a-b6b5-5f5060a1a08b"> <div class="aolReplacedBody"><div dir="ltr"> <div>We have an electronic mail <span class="aolmail_gmail-m_-8379118852138647182gmail-m_-6417268801349296248gmail-m_1986229171992062500gmail-m_1181632840545237343gmail-m_5539741857281978456gmail-m_3269739548110022274gmail-m_-7417594590945562825m_-3106942960241565296gmail-m_2797144110872258469gmail-m_7277579120155508541gmail-m_9149391285218628846gmail-il">ballot</span>. <b><u>Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, <span class="aolmail_gmail-m_-8379118852138647182gmail-m_-6417268801349296248gmail-m_1986229171992062500gmail-m_1181632840545237343gmail-m_5539741857281978456gmail-m_3269739548110022274gmail-m_-7417594590945562825m_-3106942960241565296gmail-m_2797144110872258469gmail-m_7277579120155508541gmail-m_9149391285218628846gmail-il">2017</span> at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. </u></b> <u>Co-Sponsors:</u> Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest <u>Motion:</u> to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman. </div>-Alicia </div> </div> </div> _______________________________________________ Lnc-business mailing list Lnc-<a href="mailto:business@hq.lp.org">business@hq.lp.org</a> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a>
Ken, Why is it I can see Jeffs emails and others can't? Daniel Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:53 AM, From Jeff Hewitt <hdigger2004@aol.com> wrote:
I vote yes on the motion . Jeff Hewitt Region 4
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
-----Original Message----- From: Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Sent: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 01:49 AM Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-13: Issues of LPNews
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
Motion: to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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Email providers are cracking down more and more on what's allowed and what's not, and this is actually an AOL problem. Let me explain how it happens: The mailserver for your ISP (in my case, GMail) is doing a reverse IP lookup on the email address for Mr. Hewitt. It also knows where the message came from (existing lp.org mail server). It then looks up the DNS record for AOL, and sees records for DKIM and/or SPF that say "emails from this list of IPs is legitimately from AOL". It compares the output of the output from the reverse IP lookup with the list of IPs in AOL's DNS record, and sees that it doesn't match. Your mail server then assumes it's someone trying to spoof the email address, and just sends it to the spameater, which eats it (doesn't even put it in Junk, necessarily). So long as you're using a mailbox with a domain outside of @lp.org to send to the mailing list, it will continue to be a problem... and this will continue to get worse. The world is trying to fight spammers. The solution for the email problem is to quit using forwarders and instead use LP.org email boxes. As we move states to the new shared hosting, in theory emails between those domains on the shared solution will all play nice together regardless. ken On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Ken,
Why is it I can see Jeffs emails and others can't?
Daniel
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On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:53 AM, From Jeff Hewitt <hdigger2004@aol.com> wrote:
I vote yes on the motion . Jeff Hewitt Region 4
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
-----Original Message----- From: Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Sent: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 01:49 AM Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-13: Issues of LPNews
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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Ken, Are these going to be webmail based boxes? Do we have the capacity to give LP.org email addresses to Lifetime members? It could be an added perk of being a donor. Daniel Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Ken Moellman <lpky@mu-net.org> wrote:
Email providers are cracking down more and more on what's allowed and what's not, and this is actually an AOL problem. Let me explain how it happens:
The mailserver for your ISP (in my case, GMail) is doing a reverse IP lookup on the email address for Mr. Hewitt. It also knows where the message came from (existing lp.org mail server). It then looks up the DNS record for AOL, and sees records for DKIM and/or SPF that say "emails from this list of IPs is legitimately from AOL". It compares the output of the output from the reverse IP lookup with the list of IPs in AOL's DNS record, and sees that it doesn't match. Your mail server then assumes it's someone trying to spoof the email address, and just sends it to the spameater, which eats it (doesn't even put it in Junk, necessarily).
So long as you're using a mailbox with a domain outside of @lp.org to send to the mailing list, it will continue to be a problem... and this will continue to get worse. The world is trying to fight spammers.
The solution for the email problem is to quit using forwarders and instead use LP.org email boxes. As we move states to the new shared hosting, in theory emails between those domains on the shared solution will all play nice together regardless.
ken
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote: Ken,
Why is it I can see Jeffs emails and others can't?
Daniel
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On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:53 AM, From Jeff Hewitt <hdigger2004@aol.com> wrote:
I vote yes on the motion . Jeff Hewitt Region 4
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-----Original Message----- From: Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Sent: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 01:49 AM Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-13: Issues of LPNews
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
Motion: to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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Ahhh I see.. the infamous AOL glitch or one of them. Daniel Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2017, at 7:53 AM, From Jeff Hewitt <hdigger2004@aol.com> wrote:
I vote yes on the motion . Jeff Hewitt Region 4
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-----Original Message----- From: Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> Sent: Wed, Jun 21, 2017 01:49 AM Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-13: Issues of LPNews
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
Motion: to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "aye" on the motion. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- On 6/21/2017 4:48 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*_Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. _* _Co-Sponsors:_ Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
_Motion:_ to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
I vote no on this motion, for the reasons discussed in my June 20 message below. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF On Jun 20, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Starchild wrote:
Thanks, Wes. I'm glad you clarified, because your initial message had given me the impression that unexpected and possibly important stuff had come up. Here it sounds like you are talking about just the usual competing priorities. It seems to me that the pressure to reduce newsletter production in favor of doing things like fundraising, writing press releases, improving the website, corresponding with state affiliates, etc., will always be there, and maybe even more so during campaign season when things are presumably busier. If we succumb to this pressure, I think the tendency over time will be to put out LP News less and less frequently. I don't recall, but wouldn't be surprised if the initial move to stop publishing the newspaper monthly and go to a less frequent schedule was prompted by a similar rationale about needing to focus on other stuff, and put forward as a temporary measure, and that this is how we lost our monthly publication.
It's not so much that I miss getting LP News every month, or would miss that extra issue if we drop below publishing bi-monthly, as what I think is best for the party. Although I think the publication could use a broader focus (e.g. more coverage of government injustices, especially those likely to generate passion and outrage, more inspiring stories of people who aren't necessarily big-L Libertarians fighting for freedom, etc.), I would rather see it improved than cut back. You mention membership numbers going down, and that something needs to be done about that. I'd suggest that cutting the most concrete thing we give dues-paying members (a physical copy of LP News), would not be productive in this regard. Especially during a post-election year when we historically expect many members to drop, it seems unwise to short people on receiving this tangible benefit of membership without a stronger reason than the competing demands of the regular workload. That's my 2¢ anyway.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
A quick follow-up: I will not be upset regardless of how the LNC votes on this. I'm a bit flattered (for the organization) that many of you would feel like you were missing out by missing one issue of LP News--glad you all want to keep it going and many thanks to Carla who has served as editor for a couple years on that.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director Libertarian National Committee, Inc. 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict@lp.org facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership On 6/20/2017 7:32 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:
The short answer is "everything I do except LP News." But let me elaborate on some of the things I need to get done that I've had time giving enough attention to:
Interviewing prospects and hiring: Press Secretary, Candidate Support Specialist, Members Services manager (we have a temp member services manager, Mat, who I want to get back on phoning for renewals).
Working with those new people to insure good integration into the organization.
Our website still needs plenty of improvements, like our current list of candidates.
Well thought-out facebook prospecting ads where we monitor closely the R.O.I. (you don't want to just spend money and count views and clicks). Eric produced profitable facebook membership ads for us in the past. Others haven't been able to do that for me.
More press releases on current issues.
We've done some prospecting to the Johnson for President 2016 list, but need to do more of that via email, facebook, and snail mail. Our contract for that data makes the process a bit more cumbersome than would be obvious.
Better integration or at least syncing between Raisers Edge and our email blast service.
Our attorney is waiting on me for some info a ballot access case.
A state affiliate is waiting on me for some helpful registered libertarian data that I'll also make available to other states if I have time to let them know about it.
Membership numbers are going down. Need to work on that more.
Take the time to respond to Andy, the petitioners, collecting of names for us to send membership invitations to to say "thanks, we'll send membership inquiry packages--of the 60 or so that we've sent in recent years that were legible enough, we raised $10, so worth doing when we have the names, but not worth making a top priority compared to just getting our petitioners to focus and do good work getting signatures."
Eric's a big help to me on a lot of important things I need help with (he's already started making website fixes that used to take me long to describe in detail--now I can tell him real quick in person and he's getting things working better).
But seriously, I'm overloaded with many major things. Outside help is sometimes helpful, but not always so easy to use--I've spent quite a bit of time lately explaining FEC rules and regulations to people who are helping--takes time with new folks--some outside help from volunteers ends up taking a lot of time perhaps counter-intuitively.
When I can't give staff the attention they need to make themselves helpful, it hurts their productivity. I think I'd be better off having staff work on other projects than that 6th issue of LP News this year.
I do try to prioritize. There are 4 major inputs that affect my prioritization: 1) my thoughts of course, 2) the chairs, 3) the LNC's, 4) significant opportunities that pop up out of the blue that are worth taking advantage of.
We can do all 6 LP News issues if that's what the LNC requests. It's a minor decision for you all regardless of which direction you go and will have a minor impact--not a major decision in my opinion. Thanks for asking.
I am unable to answer all the emails and calls I get.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director Libertarian National Committee, Inc. 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict@lp.org facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership On 6/20/2017 7:06 PM, Starchild wrote:
Before voting on this, I'd like to hear what Wes wants to spend staff time on that would otherwise be spent producing an issue of LP News. I don't see how we can make an informed decision on the merits of the motion without that information.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee RealReform@earthlink.net (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF
On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:19 PM, James Lark wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "aye" on the motion.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
Take care, Jim
James W. Lark, III Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee -----
On 6/21/2017 4:48 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
Motion: to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
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Voting has ended for the email ballot shown below: *Voting "aye":* Bilyeu, Bittner, Demarest, Goldstein, Hagan, Hayes, Hewitt, Katz, Lark, Marsh, McKnight, Redpath *Voting "nay":* Harlos, Starchild With a final vote tally of 12-2, the motion PASSES. -Alicia On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
*Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 1, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.* *Co-Sponsors:* Hayes, Bilyeu, Goldstein, Redpath, Harlos, Demarest
*Motion:* to allow staff the discretion to choose between publishing a total of five or six physical issues of LPNews for the year of 2017, subject to the approval of the Chairman.
-Alicia
participants (13)
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Alicia Mattson -
Brett Bittner -
Caryn Ann Harlos -
Daniel Hayes -
David Demarest -
From Jeff Hewitt -
James Lark -
Joshua Katz -
Ken Moellman -
Patrick McKnight -
Sam Goldstein -
Starchild -
Whitney Bilyeu