Ms Ryan, then why did you ask me to ask Mr Hayes if the meeting was recorded? So I direct the question back, was the meeting recorded? On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:51 PM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
Nope, in a room arranged by Ms. Ryan since Mr. Hayes had been fired as COC Chair by then.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-04 19:47, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
Was this meeting done in Mr Hayes’ zoom room?
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 5:27 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I agree with Mr. Goldstein that Ms. Ryan's recollection is inaccurate. I assure you that the relevant part of the conversation went like this:
---------------------------- Ms. Ryan: The last order of business is something I didn’t want to bring up, but I’ve been painted into a corner by the chair. He has requested that we send him our recommendation for the seat that’s on the COC. If you feel the seat is not available, I urge you to abstain from the vote. So, any…?
COC member: Why don’t we take a consensus here of who thinks that the seat is not open? Ms. Ryan: It doesn’t matter. I have to do this. This is my order from the chair. [...] Me: The chair can’t give you orders like that. This is under… Ms. Ryan: I work at the pleasure of the chair. [...discussion of whether there is a vacancy, the ongoing LNC email ballots, and our desire to wait for email ballot results...] Me: So to deal with the agenda item, I’ll move to postpone it to next week so we can see how the email ballots play out. (second) Ms. Ryan: I’m not going to do that. I’ve been ordered. I will pass on… Me: Nick can’t order me not to postpone. ----------------------------
-Alicia
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 7:01 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Apparently the Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee responded to a number of LNC members about representations that were made by certain LNC members. Ms. Ryan had requested that her response be shared with the business list, but her Regional Representative did not do so.
Her response is below: *** “Can you post this for me? If there are things in it that you feel shouldn't be on the thread, go ahead and remove it - that is except for the first sentence. Robert sent me a note asking about this same issue but I think may answer didn't fit the narrative as I didn't see it post. The committee refuses to recommend someone, even Daniel because that will prove there is a vacancy. I need to get back to work but thank you for everything.
I, Ms. Ryan was never bullied by the Chairman. He asked me to call for a vote last weekend but the committee had other things on our plate. I brought it up as the last order of business and said Mr. Sarwark would like a vote of the committee. I did say I serve at the pleasure of the Chair because I do.
Someone motioned that we table the question although there was no motion made to table. Besides we rule by consensus. rarely taking a "vote". I said I was fine telling the Chairman that there was no recommendation from the committee at this time.
I do feel the Chairman was correct in his request and his reading of the policy manual. The Chairman has the right to unilaterally seat and therefore the right to remove the non-LNC members of the committee. Therefore there is a vacancy on the committee, which the members of the committee refused to accept.
Changing the policy manual is up to the LNC but I caution doing that in the heat of a controversy.” ***
Yours in liberty, Nick
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