So, if the region is formed by the 23rd (this Saturday), can the region rep be selected at the in-person in July? On Wed, May 20, 2020, 3:02 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
The good news is that we don't have to guess. Bylaws and Convention Rules answer all of these questions.
Bylaw 7.2.c - Regions must be formed by the 2nd day of the convention, but the paperwork giving notice of the region formation must be given to the Secretary prior to the close of the convention. If the convention finishes out in Orlando, then that's the close of the convention.
Bylaw 7.3 - "The National Committee shall take office immediately upon the close of the Regular Convention at which they are selected, and serve until the final adjournment of the next Regular Convention."
LNC terms begin and end at the final adjournment of conventions.
The reason the CA operates differently is that they have 10% by themselves, are entitled to a region rep by themselves, and always make regional agreements that give them control of who their rep is, and regional agreements which establish the rules for replacing the rep as being the CA affiliate bylaws. Then the CA bylaws say that the CA convention elects the region rep and that newly elected person immediately replaces the previously elected one, essentially removing a rep when they please and appointing a replacement to finish out the remainder of what the national bylaws consider to be a normal term. See Bylaw 7.8 which allows the region control over removing/replacing region reps when and how they please so long as they spell out the procedure.
-Alicia
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 7:32 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I think this is a very gray area. you may want to get a ruling from the chair. I would put everything you want in the agreement - and I would not assume that the reps take office - as Sam said - in Orlando. I actually think the opposite is true unless that is set out in the agreement.
You cannot be wrong by specifying each thing in the agreement.
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On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:43 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Heh, you can get in trouble for even thinking these days!
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On 2020-05-19 20:40, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Kinda what I was thinking, but I get myself in trouble assuming, so was hoping for an official answer
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On May 19, 2020 7:30 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org> wrote:
The new regional reps don't take office until the post convention LNC meeting so I would assume you can have your election at Orlando. Also there is a chance the JC might change to regional representation if that Bylaw passes and that person would also have to be elected.
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On 2020-05-19 20:14, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote: Question for clarity. Regional agreements need to be done on/by saturday.
Do regional elections as well? Or -presuming we don't change anything - are those not due until we do other lnc elections?
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