I will also co-sponsor. I think it would be prudent to start discussing contingency plans and what is possible with the technology available and in compliance with the Bylaws in a worse-case scenario where Austin or the hotel cancel the convention as planned. An electronic meeting or remote voting from the state chairs could be possible if the delegates who do show up vote to amend the bylaws to allow it. The logistics would be hell, because we'd be considering either a thousand delegates all participating, or a method for the state chairs to get their delegates' votes and relay them in to the convention. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee On 2020-03-14 14:07, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
I'll co-sponsor.
Region 3 had one last state affiliate convention scheduled for today. It was LP Michigan and they decided yesterday to postpone. I'd been in contact with the LPM Chair prior to that decision, and afterward. That decision didn't come easy, and there's much discussion among the state affiliate members in Michigan regarding the situation. (Which was precipitated by a sudden increase of Covid-19 cases within the county where the convention was to be held.) LPM has rescheduled an electronic convention for early April.
I've also discussed the National Convention situation with members. Have explained that the COC says the convention is still on, as there's no cancel edict from the hotel. Nor are there general restrictions on travel within the US. Have also explained that the LP has a contractual obligation which puts a significant financial penalty onto the LP if we cancel outside of reasons covered within the contract.
With that said, I'd like to see a Plan B discussed. (I almost brought the idea to the LNC myself, as it seems prudent to discuss.)
What discussion can do is help us brainstorm ideas for the worse case scenario. Better to have plans that aren't needed and/or could be quickly adjusted. Rather than no plans and scrambling to make them.
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) Chair-Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus http://www.lpcaucus.org/
On 2020-03-14 16:32, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
As a region representative, I would like to have some sort of a unified message that we can put out letting people know that we are aware of the issue and are planning contigencies if the venue is cancelled. Right now, aside from my one on one talks, I would not have any idea about what is happening or what to tell people.
If you don't want an electronic meeting, that's fine. What is indisputable is that our convention attendees do not know for sure if we are having a convention at all (obviously we are) or that back up plans are being made just in case (which they are but due to contractual reasons, cannot be broadcast or officially setup until X happens). They also don't fully comprehend why we would put people at risk and not figure out a way to do it all remotely (against our rules and logistically a nightmare).
A statement or talking points need to be communicated to the LNC as a whole so that we are consistent with our message and so that the members of this committee are all on the same page before this gets worse (or better). I think the best medium for that is discussion and a report from the COC chair via electronic meeting. This body cannot effectively govern if it doesn't know what the facts actually are.
As an aside, if I have states in my regions calling emergency meetings to discuss options I think we should at the least do the same. I've already had WY reschedule and CO and WA are having emergency calls tomorrow to discuss. The LNC is coming off as burying its head in the sand even though I know that is not the case at all.
By my count we have 5 cosponsors at this point. Is there at least one other person who supports scheduling a meeting for 10 days from now so that we can say something? I would add that 10 days from now we may actually NEED to have a meeting if things get worse and that if it is scheduled, we can always cancel if the need resolves itself.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 15:01 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I agree with Ms. Mattson. Having a meeting might make some people feel good but there is no way we can take any concrete action at this time since the situation is so fluid. Unfortunately the Bylaws do not provide for anything other than a in-person meeting so any kind of electronic meeting proposal is moot. We will just have to wait and see.
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-03-14 15:20, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
I'm not sure what there is to discuss yet. Our hotel has NOT cancelled on us. If they cancel under the impossibility / force majeure clause, then we have zero liability. If that happens, yes, we will have to scramble to find something other way to meet and choose our presidential ticket, but it's not like we can execute an agreement in advance under the assumption that the existing contract will cancel. Circumstances are changing from day to day. This problem may have diminished by then, or it may have gotten worse such that we're working under very different parameters. I don't know how to plan for that. My opinion is that we wait to see what actually happens, if anything, and then deal with that.
-Alicia
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:10 AM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I believe that would be appropriate. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 2:04 PM -0400, "Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I will cosponsor.
I would intend to move into executive session right away with Daniel Hayes due to the legal and contractual considerations related to this and rise out for other, public discussion.
Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth@lp.org 931.538.9300
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 12:55 john.phillips--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I will co sponsor
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Mar 13, 2020 6:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I would like to have cosponsors to call for an emergency public
emeeting
to discuss this master.
The date will be exactly 10 days after I receive the 6th cosponsor at 9-11eastern
-Caryn Ann --
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