Did I vote in the wrong thread?  Or is there no vote yet.... I am so confused.

If there is no vote yet, consider me a co-sponsor.  If there is, will someone please bump it so I can vote.

I am very tired.

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
The first clause of the resolution I drafted was the following...straightfrom 1.9.

"Whereas, the only legitimate use of force is in defense of individual rights—life, liberty, and justly acquired property—against aggression. This right inheres in the individual, who may agree to be aided by any other individual or group.  "



I dropped it. I didn't need to recreate the entire platform. I was trying to keep this tightly focused.  We libertarians tend to not know when to stop. We end up stepping in the minutia. We need to understand that sometimes less is more.  The shorter the read the more likely it is read.

I leave people with this video gem to ponder.  *David Nolan Alert*

https://youtu.be/056C4wM9niQ


Daniel Hayes
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On May 20, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos@gmail.com> wrote:

I have heard from a super-majority of the Region 1 Chairs and cast my vote as yes.

However, there were concerns expressed by Montana about language that I agreed to put on the record.  The "policeman" language, while it is in the Platform,  might be seen to impugn a legitimate policing function of - as 1.9 says - assisting in the defense of persons who request assistance.  There might be another concern to be placed on the record about the use of the word "corrupt" - if I am asked to, I will note them.

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 1:54 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:
Daniel,

You receive them because you use an @iCloud email address.  When Jeff's situation happens, the Yahoo and Gmail users don't receive it.

-Alicia



On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Apparently I think I get all of Jeff's emails.  Not sure if I get Tim's when they go awry. I don't think I do but I am just now paying more attention to that.

Daniel

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On May 20, 2017, at 2:42 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:

Daniel,

Yep, working on setting up my record-keeping now for it.  Thanks for passing along Jeff's message for me.

-Alicia



On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:
Alicia,

Not sure if you have to dig in the sever to see with the email hide and seek going on. Jeff and Tim have Co-sponsored.  With you that should be the 4 needed. 

Daniel

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On May 20, 2017, at 2:12 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson@gmail.com> wrote:

I will co-sponsor.

-Alicia


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:51 PM, <danielehayes@icloud.com> wrote:

I am seeking co-sponsors for the following resolution.

Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member


Whereas, We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the United States against aggression and believe that the United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world;

 

Whereas, We oppose any form of compulsory national service and recognize that many members of the military were unjustly conscripted in the past;

Whereas, Most voluntary members of the military joined with the idea and/or goal of defending the United States and, thereby, their property, families, and friends;

 

Whereas, The United States Military-Industrial-Complex has used many well-meaning military service members for purposes other than defense against aggression and further involved them in foreign entanglements during attempts to act as the world’s policeman; and

 

Whereas, Many current and former military service members are able to relate, identify, and speak out on the ways in which the United States military mission has been expanded and corrupted beyond a legitimate role of defense against aggression; now, therefore, be it;


Resolved, Present and former members of the military who give such unique and powerful voice to the libertarian principles of peace and the non-initiation of force add great value to the Libertarian Party, and are welcomed as a vital part of our membership.

 

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