Mr. Ludlow:
I feel your pain.
Helms-Briscoe is currently
getting bids for our February LNC Session from most or all of the hotels that
are on the short list for our 2018 Convention site.
I think it was the ED
who wrote us that it is difficult to get bids from hotels this week due to most
normal people
having this week off (Note
– I have to work this week, so I am clearly not normal).
I suggest we give
staff until Thursday, January 7, 2016 to collect the bids that Helms-Briscoe
is able to solicit. If we have no decent bids on that date, then I suggest
that we do what Mr. Ludlow suggests below.
Scott Lieberman
From: Lnc-business
[mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Ludlow
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015
8:11 PM
To: lnc-business@hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business]
February LNC Meeting
I really dislike being
that guy who sends multiple emails to a list-serve when most others are
remaining silent. I also recognize that I sometimes vocalize a strong
tone, but I'm trying really hard to patiently understand what we're doing
here. I was very present in Orlando
and am pretty sure I have not missed a single word of email.
That being said, this specific email thread was started over two weeks
ago. It was started by Mr. Goldstein as a way to expedite what he (and no
doubt several others) felt should have already been locked down. I
realize the holidays have been upon us, but are we really to believe that each
of us cannot send 30-second-long emails from the convenience of his or her
front pocket?
We need to select a location;
we need to book hotels; we need to book flights.
What specifically is
needed from this board in order to have a decision made THIS week? I
would be happy to setup a Doodle Poll (as I believe Mr. Katz suggested at the Orlando meeting). I
would be happy if staff simply asked the body - again - what their choice of
the four locations was via email. Either way, if this is to be democratic
(which I don't feel it needs to be) then I would advocate giving members until
December 30th, 11:59pm EST to submit their response and not a second later.
I really don't care how it's done, but surely we are capable of accomplishing
this very simple and discrete task.
If this has already been done and I've just missed the conversation
entirely then please paint me a fool and accept my most sincere
apologies. I'll buy every one of you a beer for my mistake. But if
not, can we please lock this down immediately?
Region 7 Rep
512-773-3968
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Guy McLendon
<guy@mclendon.net>
wrote:
I strongly prefer New Orleans
over Phoenix …
I'm fine with any of
those locations, including Seattle
although I will be there next month for a memorial.
Tim
The LNC would not be
petitioning. I'm expecting to have enough signature before then. Some LNC might
help with a publicity event on Friday or Monday if the signatures are ready to
turn in. Other press opportunities might exist.
I'm fine meeting anywhere.
My usual first place choices for every meeting are New
Orleans (close to my parents & great food), Las Vegas (fun), or DC (I don't have to
pack). I was very pleasantly surprised with how nice Phoenix was last March. Loved the hotel. So,
if you are worried that I'm pushing too hard for OKC, it's for the great prices
and new LP activity there, not for me personally, although I have many
relatives in Oklahoma.
I was previously pushing to combine it with training in San
Francisco or L.A.,
but could not get consensus. I'd be fine with Washington state, personally, but it seems
like a long long way to fly for most people.
On 12/23/2015 3:45
PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
Regarding OKC, is
there an actual expectation that the LNC would be out petitioning instead of
meeting? Did I just misunderstand that or possibly read into it
incorrectly?
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015
at 2:48 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict@lp.org> wrote:
My quick checks show
New Orleans, OKC, and Phoenix all have reasonably good airfares for
February 19-21.
Wes Benedict,
Executive Director
On 12/23/2015 3:37
PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
I would advocate Phoenix over New
Orleans.
* PHX is easy and generally cheap to fly into
* Phoenix
itself is easy to get around
* Car rentals tend to be super cheap in Phoenix
* The city is specifically setup for business conferences
* We have two potential sites to visit there
* While it's not
entirely west coast, it does address that imbalance to other members (a little
at least)
-Kevin
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015
at 2:38 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict@lp.org> wrote:
Sam, what about New Orleans or Phoenix?
On 12/23/2015 3:30
PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
I don't want a LNC
meeting at OKC.
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015
at 12:36 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict@lp.org> wrote:
Robert found a
couple of properties in OKC with rooms at around the $80/night level, free
breakfast, and the meeting space is free or just a couple hundred dollars or
so. That would be the least expensive LNC meeting in a long time. We could sign
a deal right away if you'd like.
Helms Briscoe says they don't expect proposals the week of Christmas. So, we
can wait to see what comes up with Helms Briscoe later, and compare those to
the OKC options, or go with OKC now.
On 12/19/2015 9:59
AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
Nick asked staff to
do the same so Robert also contacted helms Briscoe Friday.
Since we don't yet
have a plan for a February meeting location, I just emailed our 2018 site
search agent asking her to find out if any of the short-list options might have
available space for the Feb 20 weekend. (Cities are: Atlantic City, NJ; New Orleans, LA; Phoenix, AZ; Bellevue, WA)
I indicated that time is of the essence, so they should send us their offers
quickly if they're available.
Sam, at least as of a week ago I don't think staff has been asked to
research any locations. Copying Robert to verify. I proposed San Francisco
recently but got zero interest from the LNC.
I found a great place in Oklahoma City for $79 per night if you all are
interested. Best Western Saddleback. Nice meeting space and free breakfast.
Southwest Airlines doesn't charge change fees if you need to change your
flight. I flew into the ice storm Saturday after Thanksgiving and the people
there didn't seem to panic even with downed power lines and trees
everywhere. Was nice to be able to change flight just in case though
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 14, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The date we set for our next meeting is rapidly approaching and we
> have not yet selected a location. Can we please get a report from
> staff as to which locations we are considering? I, for one, would
> like to get this wrapped up in the next week so travel plans can be made.
>
> Live Free,
>
> Sam Goldstein