I thought there wasn't supposed to be debate on email ballots. I may be wrong, but as the Secretary is actually the one tabulating the ballot is it not improper to engage in debate as an active motion is out for vote? There have been calls on the chairs actions. The Secretary is a little over the line in my opinion. --- FRANCIS WENDT LNC Region 1 Alternate 406.595.5111 On 2020-05-14 12:59, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
The state chairs in general I have spoken to object to the entire process even if it worked properly.
They are self-organizing to present the LNC a resolution that I will support pretty much no matter what it says.
Since we do not have a viable alternative that will give a solution and this would bring us back to zero I withdraw my vote and change to abstain .
I do not support the procedure we are using. I do however support the compromise.
I can’t go back to zero without having a plan b. But I also cannot grant my approval to the process we are now doing which the state chairs also oppose.
An abstain at this point represents my feelings.
I do not believe the LNC is capable (nor at this point terribly concerned about) member rights. I don’t think what the state chairs will propose is perfect either.
But I do know that the state chairs know what’s best for their delegations more than we do.
A yes vote without an alternative destroys the compromise and I gave my word.
A no vote supports the status quo and that is equally abhorrent as breaking my word.
My abstain is my vote FOR the state chairs and telling us to back off and let them lead.
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:47 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I vote no.
We have to remember that these test runs are just that, tests. We're finding out what works for us and what doesn't (the Yes/No buttons), and I expect the next test will be more fine-tuned using the experiences gathered from the previous test runs.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-05-13 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 20 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Hewitt, Mattson, Smith
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Motion: Rescind in its entirety the motion adopted during the May 9, 2020 LNC
meeting, which called for a convention to begin on May 22, 2020 with
business conducted online. Instead, in accordance with Bylaw Article 10.1,
the LNC calls an in-person convention to occur during the dates of July
8-12, 2020 at Rosen Shingle Creek in Orlando, Florida.
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