I believe in a compromise. I have floated an alternate compromise. But I concur with Mr. Smith. I am voting yes. If it is defeated, I will do my damnest to make the online thinking work, but I can do nothing about the flaws. And it has been made clear to me that the chair is doing nothing to set me up for success in my role in that activity. I will make the best our of a bad situation for this party and its members no matter what. I am not entirely at peace with a yes vote on this without the other motion being passed but I am less at peace with pretending this online fiasco is a deliberative assembly. In any event, I will accept our decision and will not undermine or perform subterfuge. This motion is the right way to challenge decisions. Not social media scheming. We need to preserve ballot access for GA and NH but why hasn't the chair authorized litigation there? WHY?????? I urge us also to take the ball into our own hands and authorize that litigation. And to authorize the signing of the contract by any officer. We have allowed these games to be played for too long. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:38 PM joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I'm an LNC member. I'm a current candidate for Chair of the LNC. I'm a delegate to the national convention for California.
I didn't even recieve an email for this "test" convention. I wasn't able to log in. Many other people have said the same. Zoom has a cap at 1k, and we have 1046 delegates. People are not able to speak when they want to. It is fraught with tech issues.
This is not going to work, and with only ten days left, it's time to admit that to ourselves and come up with something different.
For those reasons, I vote yes on this motion.
In liberty, Joshua
On May 13, 2020 11:59 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Justin,
As Caryn Ann has already noted, this is not a motion to "reconsider" but is instead a motion to "rescind" which has no constraints on who can move it.
If it were a motion to reconsider, there is only an eligibility requirement for the mover but not for the seconds, RONR p. 320: "Must be seconded at the time it is made. Unlike the making of the motion, which must be done by a person who voted with the prevailing side, the seconding can be done by any member regardless of how he voted on the motion to be reconsidered."
-Alicia
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On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:38 PM justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I OBJECT
I oppose this ballot being started prior to a ruling of the chair on my objection that it was not properly sponsored.
Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative
On May 14, 2020 12:36 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 20 2020 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Bilyeu, Harlos, Hewitt, Mattson, Smith
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Motion: Rescind in its entirety the motion adopted during the May 9, 2020 LNC
meeting, which called for a convention to begin on May 22, 2020 with
business conducted online. Instead, in accordance with Bylaw Article 10.1,
the LNC calls an in-person convention to occur during the dates of July
8-12, 2020 at Rosen Shingle Creek in Orlando, Florida.
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THRESHOLD REQUIRED:
You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/ballot200513-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
Please notify me of any discrepancies.
* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *