It is not the idea of obtaining bids that is the issue. It’s the interference over the heads of the CoC and the twelve hour actions. On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:23 AM Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I am satisfied with taking competing bids provided the level of quality meets or exceeds the current bid and the price is competitive, and provided our deposit is returned. Sincerely, Steven Nekhaila
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 1:06 PM -0400, "Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business" <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I am not Mrs. Van Horn. I've made it clear that I do not use titles before my name. Please make a note.
The rest of your scolding commentary make no sense. Just stop.
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-06-10 12:57, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
Terms that you and others continue to fail to mention that the COC had already agreed to ask for Mrs Van Horn. You were in that meeting, took part in the discussion, and yet I have seen your responses to questions feigning ignorance of the answers despite being part of the discussion, and doing so here again. Speaking of spreading misinformation.
You might also note that I also said I did not object to taking bids, just to make sure we are comparing apples to apples - as Ms Adams also brought attention to, or are you conveniently ignoring that part too?
And yes, at some point quibbling over these things can be penny wise and pound foolish when they cause more friction, problems, and damage to morale which can greatly damage fundraising long term over a short term price difference.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 10, 2020 11:34 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
You wrote: "being pennywise and pound foolish is ridiculous and a disservice to our members."
A BETTER contract was negotiated. Not a worse one. That's not being "pennywise and pound foolish", nor is it a disservice to our members. Just the opposite.
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-06-10 12:17, john.phillips@lp.org wrote:
I m not going to say whether it is or isn't. Given the lack of information being shared, conclusions happen either way.
I will say that accusations of spreading misinformation and playing games go both ways. So I suggest being very careful about opening that can of worms and derailing this process and making it more ugly than it is already.
I do not object to bids being taken, but make sure we compare apples to apples as I know the current AV company had provisions in place for our states that may not be able to travel due to government. Can the in house AV provide that? Most cannot or will not.
I will also say that perhaps if we let the COC do the job they were already doing and just move on we would be better off. Yes being careful with money is important, but this constantly getting in the way, gamesmanship, and being pennywise and pound foolish is ridiculous and a disservice to our members.
John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973
On Jun 10, 2020 10:50 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
I don't think it looks effort to derail, nor to any hypothetical purpose of not having a convention. I know you like to write that, as it's what you've spread all over FB, but I think you're purposefully spreading misinformation.
--- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
On 2020-06-10 11:29, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
This is clearly an effort on the part of the Chair to derail the planning of the COC due to his stated purpose of not having an in person convention this year. I will be seeking sponsors once again to authorize another officer to sign the COC approved AV contract if the Chair does not sign it by the end of business tomororw.
The Chair does not run the COC nor give directive to us. That is the responsibility of the LNC>
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-10 11:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
This concerns me. The CoC already approved the other, and it is my understanding that this email here is how the rest of the CoC heard of this. Why are things being done without the rest of the CoC being consulted? This seems like interference that is slowing things down. It is too late to keep putting delays in this process. How long is this going to take? And the CoC has already worked with the current guy on remote connections that many delegates are demanding, and this seems to be sabotaging that.
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On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:23 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Since some members of the LNC have been asking our special counsel privately about the status of contracts under review, I thought it best to provide the entire committee an update.
There is an A/V contract proposed by the Convention Oversight Committee that was negotiated before the site was finalized with the same company that was going to handle A/V in Austin.
Given the number of changes that have occurred between now and then, and given the commitment the Rosen Hotel Group has made to make our convention a success, I have asked BetteRose Ryan, Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee, to solicit a bid from the Rosen Group's in-house A/V provider.
Yours truly, Nick
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