While it rarely happens it causes confusion (it happens in committees too) so a policy would be helpful IMHO *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
I was talking about the possiblility in the general case, not this particular case. If we think it could be a problem with the general case, we or the next LNC could look at revising the policy for e-mail ballots. Or leave it alone since the Chair ruling an e-mail motion out of order rarely happens.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 10:38, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
correction - at least two days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM Caryn Ann Harlos < caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org> wrote: Mr. Hagan, in this case the chair waIted several days after the ballot started. This ballot was also not sponsored privately either and it was two days between sponsorship and the starting of the ballot giving the chair plenty of time to rule out of order - at least four days.
IN LIBERTY,
__ _ PERSONAL NOTE: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:11 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote: With our e-mail ballot procedure, the Secretary, not the Chair, states and puts the question before the body. We've had instances where co-sponsors send their sponsorships privately to the Secretary, or co-sponsors and the Secretary react quickly, making it very possible for voting to start before the Chair has a chance to read the motion.
--- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
On 2020-06-12 04:47, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
How is it possible for the Chair to rule a motion out of order after voting on it has begun?
--- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell
On 2020-06-12 05:03, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
We had a ballot going to change authority to cancel Orlando contract. Mid-stream, the chair ruled it out of order. Voting concluded with a count of 13-0-4.
I am asking for sponsors for an appeal of the ruling of the chair so that said motion would pass.
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