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Using Slack for Large Meetings
by Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) 06 May '20

06 May '20

Was reflecting on last nights “Mock Convention” and there were things that went better than expected and things that didn’t. In The aim of providing solutions because regardless of the short run outcome we will have to consider these types of events more and more in the future as well. In this video I show how pairing slack with Zoom can fix many of the logistical and governance issues many brought up last night. So this is only one possible idea as other similar platforms exist like Discord and Flock but figured I’d still submit it so it can be in the back of everyone’s head as to what may be possible. https://youtu.be/ANcNbO6XPOk Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

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Learning together how to adapt to a virtual convention
by Nicholas Sarwark 05 May '20

05 May '20

Dear All, During the discussions of how we adapt to the pandemic making travel and physical mass meetings impossible, many people have expressed concerns about the practicality of having a virtual convention. These fears are usually formed as questions about how it would work and used as arguments for delay and against trying to make it work. There are debates about the proposals, bylaws changes, and systems, but these are all done in the abstract. My belief is that this committee serves at the pleasure of the delegates, the delegates do not serve at the pleasure of the committee. They are not ours to be told what sacrifices they must make and what business they are allowed to consider. We are theirs to ensure that their voices are heard and that they make the decisions about the future of our party and who should represent them. To that end, I will gavel in a test run of the Libertarian National Convention on the Libertarian Party Zoom account tonight at 7:00 pm Eastern. Attendees will be credentialed and admitted to the room if they are national delegates or alternates, based on the current credentials committee lists. Others will be free to watch the simulcast on YouTube. Hosts of the meeting will be able to recognize attendees in order to speak. We will follow the convention agenda per the bylaws and move through as much business as the time allows. We will see what works well and what could be improved. Details for how to register will be forthcoming later in the day. If you would like to volunteer to assist, please feel free to contact Mr. Fishman. Yours in liberty, Nicholas Sarwark

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Polling.
by john.phillips＠lp.org 05 May '20

05 May '20

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email notification?
by Daniel Fishman 05 May '20

05 May '20

Did the committee wish to send a notification to membership about Saturday's meeting? Should the convention website be updated? --- Daniel Fishman Executive Director The Libertarian Party Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>

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Am I correct in understanding that the LPO is having a physical convention the end of July?
by Caryn Ann Harlos 05 May '20

05 May '20

* In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. *

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Hybrid Convention idea
by dustin.nanna＠lp.org 04 May '20

04 May '20

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Re: [Lnc-business] Convention kibbitzing
by Caryn Ann Harlos 04 May '20

04 May '20

Mr. Wiener, I will forward your email on to the list. Your analysis is spot on. As a hybrid would require 2/3, I do not think it would pass from my informal speaking with delegates. But then again, people blow smoke when it is hypothetical, and the group can often gel together and make different decisions when push comes to shove. I am at this point not in favour of a hybrid. However, if the delegates decide to do so and make it "kosher" within our bylaws, I am amenable to persuasion as I am on any issue that does not violate either the Party principles or our bylaws. *In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 5:36 PM Daniel Wiener <wiener(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Hello LNC members, > > First let me express my sympathies to all of you as you are faced with an > extremely difficult problem for which there is no good solution, only > degrees of bad ones. On the one hand I'm just as glad that I'm no longer > on the LNC and tasked with picking one of those bad options. On the other > hand I can't help kibbitzing a little. So here are a few comments: > > 1. An in-person convention, even if postponed or otherwise limited, will > have numerous drawbacks: Flights from (and through) many locations will be > unavailable. Many people will be prevented from personally attending due > to quarantine or disease affecting themselves or family members, or fall > into high-risk categories. (For myself, I am 71 years old and my daughter > has me on lock-down at home. Even if the epidemic begins to rapidly tail > off and the country starts to re-open, large gatherings such as conventions > will still pose at least some contagious risks for the next several > months.) Many other people who'd normally attend are financially unable > due to job losses and business closures and similar exigencies.) > > 2. Our Bylaws do not currently have provisions for electronically-held > conventions, nor can the Bylaws be amended outside of a regular convention. > (I've previously supported proposals which would have allowed the LNC to > amend the Bylaws with super-super majorities for just these kinds of > between-convention emergencies, but those Bylaws amendments were never > passed.) Any end-run due to this emergency situation will inevitably > generate heated opposition from a significant fraction of Libertarians, a > problem made worse by the questionable legitimacy of the current Judicial > Committee. > > 3. I'm attracted to the proposal for a hybrid convention. We could set a > near-term date and location for an in-person convention, with the intent > that whatever small number of delegates are willing to attend will > immediately take the following actions: (1) Suspend the rules to first > consider amendments to the Bylaws. (2) Pass appropriate amendments to > authorize electronic attendance (probably on a one-time basis) and adopt > the necessary procedures to do so. (3) Pass an amendment to allow the LNC > to take whatever other emergency measures might be necessary (probably with > a super-majority). (4) Recess the convention to a later date if that is > deemed to be desirable to complete the remainder of the convention's > business electronically. > > 4. The obvious problem with a hybrid convention is that the delegates in > attendance might fail to take the above actions. I'd suggest sending out > an email blast to all currently-known delegates asking them if (1) They > would support the above proposal, and (2) If they personally would be > willing and able to attend an in-person convention to approve the above > proposal. This will only work if there is a strong consensus among all > potential delegates in favor of it, and if there is a large supporting > number (significantly greater than 2/3) among likely attendees. > > Good luck, > Daniel Wiener > > P.S. I'm sending this message to those LNC members I have email addresses > for, and I apologize to any others I may be missing. > >

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2018 Libertarian Party Bylaws and Convention Rules
by Sam Goldstein 04 May '20

04 May '20

To prepare for tonight's COC meeting to which we have invited the LNC I have attached the current version of our Bylaws and Convention Rules as set by the delegates at the 2018 Libertarian Party National Convention at New Orleans. Please note that only the delegates in convention can alter or change this document as has been the established procedure of the Party of Principle for over 40 years. Keep this in mind as you listen to and participate in tonight's meeting. Also be advised that a typical COC meeting begins at 9:00 PM Eastern Time and often is not adjourned until the rooster start crowing, bring your NoDoz. Live Free and Stay Safe! -- Sam Goldstein, At Large Member Libertarian National Committee Convention Oversight Committee 317-850-0726 Cell

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Fwd: Open letter to LNC
by Tim Hagan 04 May '20

04 May '20

Received the e-mail below for the LNC from Dr. Buchman. --- Tim Hagan Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee -------- Original Message -------- SUBJECT: Open letter to LNC DATE: 2020-05-04 13:45 FROM: Joseph Buchman Gentlemen, decades-long friends, and official representatives to the committee, Please pass this request along as you see might be best. As an elected delegate with a wife who is exposed to Covid-19 on a daily basis as is a clinical laboratory scientist in a hospital lab, I choose not to risk being a possible-to-probable carrier of this infection to others at an in-person convention. That's my personal moral choice. If it disenfranchises me from being able to fulfill my duties as an elected delegate, I'm confident that will be noted by my alternate should one be available, although I think the higher likelihood is I and all available alternates from my state will be absent I therefore humbly request the opportunity to be able to participate in the convention as scheduled via an online technology. Gratefully, Joseph G. Buchman, PhD Utah Libertarian Party Delegate

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Anecdotal Situation from UT State Chair
by Richard Longstreth 04 May '20

04 May '20

This is a copy and paste of what I received from the UT chair and have authority to share. I think it bears some relevance to our upcoming discussion this weekend: "FYI, I received a cancellation notification today for an event in Las Vegas in October. It's one run by Parks & Rec, so I take that as a sign from their government that they don't expect to be operating large events any time soon. Not arguing whether their decision making is right or wrong, just pointing out it appears to be where their thinking is at." Richard Longstreth Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY) Libertarian National Committee richard.longstreth(a)lp.org 931.538.9300 Sent from my Mobile Device

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