June 2019 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

FYI - I have asked Dan to modify the FAQ
by Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business 29 Jun '19

29 Jun '19

Dear All, I have instructed Mr. Fishman to add "is seen as" to the first sentence in the answer to the FAQ on the website, "Shouldn't I just withdraw my consent from the entire system?" Yours in liberty, Nick

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Re: [Lnc-business] FYI - I have asked Dan to modify the FAQ
by Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business 29 Jun '19

29 Jun '19

Daniel, thank you for being responsive. I know you've been traveling and trying to stay abreast of this issue. Kind regards, EVH --- Elizabeth Van Horn On 2019-06-29 12:52, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote: > I change will be live in the next 30 mins. > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 11:04 AM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business < > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> Nick, >> >> Thank you for resolving the matter without the need for the LNC to >> exercise unnecessary oversight and micromanagement. >> >> Justin O'Donnell >> LNC Region 8 Representative >> >> On Jun 29, 2019 11:58 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < >> lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> I have instructed Mr. Fishman to add "is seen as" to the first >> sentence in >> the answer to the FAQ on the website, "Shouldn't I just withdraw my >> consent >> from the entire system?" >> >> Yours in liberty, >> Nick >> >> >>

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Re: [Lnc-business] FYI - I have asked Dan to modify the FAQ
by Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business 29 Jun '19

29 Jun '19

I recommend that first sentence be completely different wording. Such as: "Not voting is seen as consent." Saying that 'silence' is seen as consent, still doesn't solve the problem. It's not about silence, nor should the LP imply that we think silence is seen as consent. It's about 'Not Voting". Go with: "Not voting is seen as consent." ------------- Also, thank you Nick! This is the way to handle ambiguous messaging. Communications and discussion. Board motions are an overkill. --- Elizabeth Van Horn LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY) On 2019-06-29 11:58, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote: > Dear All, > > I have instructed Mr. Fishman to add "is seen as" to the first sentence > in > the answer to the FAQ on the website, "Shouldn't I just withdraw my > consent > from the entire system?" > > Yours in liberty, > Nick

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Re: [Lnc-business] FYI - I have asked Dan to modify the FAQ
by Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business 29 Jun '19

29 Jun '19

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Re: [Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE
by Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

If that scenario were true, we would have been intervening a million times already. The Policy Manual provides for LNC intervention for a reason. On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org> wrote: > On this motion: I vote No. > > ------------------------------ > > I wasn't aware of the tweet, until an LP member brought it to my > attention on Wednesday. I agree the tweet is bad optics. > > I'd recommend that we consult with our ED, and work together to > understand how best to avoid this type of situation in the future. > > Trying to delete the tweet after the fact, could reignite the > controversy. > > This brings us to the real issue, that those who're upset, are mostly LP > members and supporters. > > The people we're trying to attract to the LP, aren't even the ones > paying attention. > > I think that efforts should be focused on overall social media strategy, > and ways to attract new people to the LP. > > EVH > > --- > Elizabeth Van Horn > > > > On 2019-06-28 12:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > > BALLOT 20190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE > > > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JULY 5, 2019 at 11:59:59 pm > > Pacific time. > > > > Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > Motion: Move that the tweet made on the Party on the official Twitter > > account including the quote that “silence equals consent” be deleted > > and > > that the corresponding text on LP.org be removed. The Executive > > Director > > is instructed to rewrite that text to address member and LNC concerns > > and > > submit to the LNC for final approval/amendment. > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > > http://tinyurl.com/ballot190628-1. Votes are noted with a link to the > > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the > > manual > > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > > > > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > > > -- > > -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Re: [Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE
by Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

Was there a conversation with the Chair and ED before just initiating an email ballot? If so, could someone fill us in on how that went? -Alicia On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:31 PM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > I agree with Sam and Justin and Vote No > > I agree regarding the problems with the tweet, and agree LNC serve members > but doesn’t mean every action as LNC members must be an official action. > > By bringing this up the LNC and staff this can easily be deleted and > addressed. If there was push back against deleting the tweet or amending > the website then I’d see the possible desire for a vote. > > Although more than likely this can be fixed and addressed by mere informal > discussion (which is happening) and be done before this vote even expires. > > Alex Merced > Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP > > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business < > lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > > > > Ms. Van Horn, member attraction is a sinking ship without member > > retention. People do not stay where they think everything is up to the > top > > and they have no voice. > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos < > carynannharlos(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> If that scenario were true, we would have been intervening a million > times > >> already. The Policy Manual provides for LNC intervention for a reason. > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Elizabeth Van Horn < > >> elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org> wrote: > >> > >>> On this motion: I vote No. > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> I wasn't aware of the tweet, until an LP member brought it to my > >>> attention on Wednesday. I agree the tweet is bad optics. > >>> > >>> I'd recommend that we consult with our ED, and work together to > >>> understand how best to avoid this type of situation in the future. > >>> > >>> Trying to delete the tweet after the fact, could reignite the > >>> controversy. > >>> > >>> This brings us to the real issue, that those who're upset, are mostly > LP > >>> members and supporters. > >>> > >>> The people we're trying to attract to the LP, aren't even the ones > >>> paying attention. > >>> > >>> I think that efforts should be focused on overall social media > strategy, > >>> and ways to attract new people to the LP. > >>> > >>> EVH > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Elizabeth Van Horn > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 2019-06-28 12:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > >>>> BALLOT 20190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE > >>>> > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. > >>>> > >>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JULY 5, 2019 at 11:59:59 pm > >>>> Pacific time. > >>>> > >>>> Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith > >>>> > >>>> ============================================= > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Motion: Move that the tweet made on the Party on the official Twitter > >>>> account including the quote that “silence equals consent” be deleted > >>>> and > >>>> that the corresponding text on LP.org be removed. The Executive > >>>> Director > >>>> is instructed to rewrite that text to address member and LNC concerns > >>>> and > >>>> submit to the LNC for final approval/amendment. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ============================================= > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/ballot190628-1. Votes are noted with a link to > the > >>>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the > >>>> manual > >>>> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> * In Liberty,* > >> > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- > Caryn.Ann. > >> Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ > >> > >> > ========================================================================= > >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize > All > >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * > >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End > >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income > Tax > >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency > Services > >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * > >> Eliminate Regulation * > >> > >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org < > http://www.lp.org/>* > >> > ========================================================================= > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > * In Liberty,* > > > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- > Caryn.Ann. > > Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ > > > > ========================================================================= > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize > All > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income > Tax > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency > Services > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * > > Eliminate Regulation * > > > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org < > http://www.lp.org/>* > > ========================================================================= > >

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Re: [Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE
by John Phillips via Lnc-business 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

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Personal disclosure
by Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

I have been going through my professional and personal connections to let them know of a significant issue in my life. As most of you know I was on extended medical leave from my work. At the end of that tunnel, I have been professionally diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder level 1 (which in the former DSM was known as Asperger's syndrome). Discussion is welcome here or privately or none at all. This was an FYI. -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Re: [Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE
by Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

I don’t believe it will become a full time job, occassionally things happen that the body ought to address. That is not micromanaging, which would be managing every single post and peering over the shoulder of every volunteer. We are hands off, until we need to be hands on. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those without power cannot defend freedom” > > On Jun 28, 2019 at 2:04 PM, <Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org)> wrote: > > > > I Vote No. > > I'm inclined to agree with Sam, this issue can, and should be handled by > direction of the chair and the Executive Director, not my > micromanagement of the LNC. If we set the precedent of having an LNC > Vote every time someone is upset with how our social media is handled, > monitoring this email thread will become a full time job in it's own > right. > > --- > Yours in Liberty, > > Justin O'Donnell > LNC Region 8 Representative > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee > www.justinodonnell.me > > Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod ! > > On 2019-06-28 12:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > > BALLOT 20190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE > > > > We have an electronic mail ballot. > > > > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JULY 5, 2019 at 11:59:59 pm > > Pacific time. > > > > Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > Motion: Move that the tweet made on the Party on the official Twitter > > account including the quote that “silence equals consent” be deleted > > and > > that the corresponding text on LP.org be removed. The Executive > > Director > > is instructed to rewrite that text to address member and LNC concerns > > and > > submit to the LNC for final approval/amendment. > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: > > http://tinyurl.com/ballot190628-1. Votes are noted with a link to the > > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the > > manual > > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. > > > > > > Please notify me of any discrepancies. > > > > -- > > > > * In Liberty,* > > > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- > > Caryn.Ann. > > Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ > > > > ========================================================================= > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize > > All > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income > > Tax > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency > > Services > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * > > Eliminate Regulation * > > > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org > > <http://www.lp.org/>* > > ========================================================================= >

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Re: [Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE
by Joshua Smith via Lnc-business 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

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