May 2019 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

Proposed Petition for Certiorari in LNC v. FEC
by Oliver Hall 23 May '19

23 May '19

Greetings, The Chair has asked me to comment on the proposal to file a petition for certiorari in /LNC v. FEC/. This case arises from Joseph Shaber's bequest of $235,000 to the LNC. Under federal law, the LNC is permitted to accept only $33,400 of that bequest per year for its general funds. In addition, the LNC is permitted to accept up to three times that amount -- /i.e./, $100,200 -- for each of three segregated funds. The three segregated funds are: 1) presidential nominating conventions; 2) party headquarters buildings; and 3) election recounts and other legal proceedings. The LNC challenged those limitations on First Amendment grounds. The District Court certified the case to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals for determination en banc -- meaning by all judges of that court. The case raises three issues: 1. Whether the contribution limits against the Shaber bequest violate the LNC's First Amendment rights; 2. Whether the segregated fund contribution limits violate the LNC's First Amendment rights by restricting the purposes for which it may spend those funds (facial challenge); 3. Whether the segregated fund contribution limits violate the LNC's First Amendment rights by restricting the purposes for which it may spend those funds (challenge as applied to Shaber bequest only). In a split decision, a majority of the D.C. Circuit ruled against the LNC on all three issues. There were two dissenting opinions. In one dissent, Judge Katsas, joined by Judge Henderson, would have ruled for the LNC on the first issue. In the other dissent, Judge Griffith would have ruled for the LNC on the second and third issues. The Supreme Court has never addressed the three issues raised in this case. Although the Court accepts very few cases for review, several factors suggest there is a reasonable chance it would accept this one. First, the D.C. Circuit was split, with three judges ruling for the LNC on at least one issue. This is generally considered a compelling reason for seeking further review. Additionally, the D.C. Circuit's decisions were rendered along partisan lines: the judges in the majority were appointed by Democrats, and the dissenting judges were appointed by Republicans. If that dynamic held true at the Supreme Court -- a plausible if not probable result -- the case would be decided in the LNC's favor. Second, the Supreme Court has decided several campaign finance cases in recent years, demonstrating its active interest in this area of the law. Further, the issues raised in this case are substantial, and this is the second time that the LNC has needed to litigate them. Arguably, therefore, the Court's intervention is needed, to provide the LNC and other parties with a final resolution of legal issues that are likely to arise again. Third, this case was decided by the D.C. Circuit sitting en banc -- that alone speaks to its importance. The Supreme Court is most likely to accept cases that involve a circuit split -- /i.e./, those in which federal circuit courts of appeal have reached conflicting decisions about the same issue of law. That factor is not present here because cases construing the constitutionality of federal campaign finance laws invariably arise from the D.C. Circuit. As such, the split among the judges of that court in this case might be viewed as analogous to a circuit split. There are also reasons to believe the Court would not accept review of this case. Most likely, I think, is that the Court may find the issues raised are not sufficiently weighty, because relatively few people are impacted. The fact that the LNC is litigating these issues for the second time in recent years may dispel this concern. The most significant benefits of seeking certiorari would be the opportunity to reverse the D.C. Circuit's negative decision, and to improve this area of campaign finance law going forward. Our attorney, Alan Gura, believes the case could have a broader impact, by deciding issues of more general applicability, such as the appropriate standard of review that applies to content-based restrictions on campaign contributions. Apart from the printing costs and filing fees, which Mr. Gura estimates to be approximately $5,000 or more, I know of no detriment to filing a petition for certiorari. If the petition is denied, the only consequence will be that the D.C. Circuit's decision remains final, which is what the outcome will be if no petition is filed. I am available for questions or further discussion. Thank you, Oliver -- Oliver B. Hall Special Counsel Libertarian National Committee 202-280-0898

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Fwd: Re: email list archive
by Joe Bishop-Henchman 20 May '19

20 May '19

Forwarding Dr. Moulton's email in case anyone did not receive it. My personal suggestion on this is to flip the switch as he suggests, and establish a best practice for members of this list to have no more than two links in signature lines. The problem is caused when someone with lots of links in their signature sends lots replies to themselves on one thread. Addressing either the number of links in signature lines (my suggestion) or how people reply to themselves (Dr. Moulton's suggestion below) solves it. JBH ------------ Joe Bishop-Henchman LNC Member (At-Large) joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: email list archive Date: 2019-05-20 16:28 From: Chuck Moulton <chuck(a)moulton.org> To: Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org>, John Phillips <john.phillips(a)lp.org> Cc: Alex Merced <alex.merced(a)lp.org>, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson(a)lp.org>, Caryn Ann Harlos <secretary(a)lp.org>, Dan Fishman <dan.fishman(a)lp.org>, Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna(a)lp.org>, Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn(a)lp.org>, Erin Adams <erin.adams(a)lp.org>, Jeff Lyons <jeff.lyons(a)lp.org>, Jeffrey Hewitt <jeffrey.hewitt(a)lp.org>, Jim Lark <james.lark(a)lp.org>, Joe Bishop-Henchman <joe.bishop-henchman(a)lp.org>, Johnny Adams <johnny.adams(a)lp.org>, Joshua Smith <joshua.smith(a)lp.org>, Justin O'Donnell <justin.odonnell(a)lp.org>, Ken Moellman <ken(a)moellman.com>, Kenneth Brent Olsen <kenneth.olsen(a)lp.org>, Nicholas Sarwark <chair(a)lp.org>, Phillip Anderson <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org>, Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth(a)lp.org>, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org>, Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila(a)lp.org>, Susan Hogarth <susan.hogarth(a)lp.org>, Tim Hagan <treasurer(a)lp.org>, Victoria Paige Lee <victoria.paige.lee(a)lp.org>, Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu(a)lp.org>, William Redpath <william.redpath(a)lp.org> LNC members, I'm not sure how to respond to these oft-repeated (though previously debunked) talking points without being a bit snarky, so I sat on this reply hoping I could avoid sending it. However, people seem to be taking them seriously; therefore, I probably need to respond rather than "res ipsa loquitor" my previous correspondence. It is quite frightening that LNC members and staff seem to be considering migrating to Google groups. Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: > The link spam at the bottom makes the list unreadable for us to do > business. I remain mystified by any complaints about so-called "link spam". When junk is at the beginning of an email or in the middle of an email, I can see an argument for it being distracting. Luckily, I have developed a foolproof algorithm for circumventing the "link spam" at the end of emails caused by that setting: 1. read each email until you get to the signature line of its author 2. stop reading My extensive testing has yet to reveal a single email sent to the LNC in the past 10 years which cannot be handled by this clever technique. However, even if it were true that extra links at the bottom of an email were a negative, it remains the case that the positive of having a readable archive is orders of magnitude more important, outweighing the negative of the links. Ken Moellman wrote: > The problem is that the list of URLs self-compounds, and so every reply > recreates the URL tags for the previous message. This eventually leads > to the list being completely unreadable by some LNC members. This is simply false. The list of links does not "self-compound". When list users include all previous messages at the bottom of their previous emails, the list of links grows in that manner. You -- and many others -- seem to be taking it as a given that people do and should include all previous messages at the bottom of their previous emails. That is emphatically not the case. It is trivial for users to trim their emails, removing previous replies and only quoting what is actually relevant. Not only is trimming emails possible and trivial, but doing so is also part and parcel of basic email etiquette. See for example RFC 1855 (among many other writings on this topic): https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 RFC 1855 (Netiquette Guidelines, p. 8): > If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you > summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just > enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure > readers understand when they start to read your response. Since > NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the postings from > one host to another, it is possible to see a response to a message > before seeing the original. Giving context helps everyone. But do not > include the entire original! Trimming emails would be logical even if it weren't polite. Repeating the entire email thread below every message serves no purpose whatsoever. The entire thread is already available at least three different places: 1) in the email boxes of everyone on the LNC, 2) on the LNC business list archive, 3) on the Google reflector list. This repetition is wasteful: every time the entire thread is sent again wastes time and resources uploading the email, time and resources downloading the email, and resources transporting the email, including quotas for those people who have a limited upload/download allotment on their cellphone plans. The signal to noise ratio plummets with each new reply to a growing thread. If anyone out there is actually reading the entire thread of all previous emails every time a new email is sent to you, I am pleased to tell you that you can free up an extra 15-20 hours per day every day if you stop doing that. There is no "self-compounding" of email links. I'm reminded of the line "guns don't kill people, people kill people". Acting as if email blows up in size on its own robs people of agency. Each individual should take personal responsibility for his or her conscious decision to violate basic email etiquette by not trimming his or her replies. Email doesn't compound links, people compound links. Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: > I suggest we put a notice on the piper mail page alerting to the google > reflector list which has none of those issues. None of these issues?!! The Google reflector list is mostly useless. It doesn't list who authored each email. It is impossible to sort by date, subject, author, etc. Emails are randomly missing. You need to scroll for a long time to get to older emails (unlike the mailman archives which has the entire list initially available). It ties people to a proprietary platform (Google) outside of the LP's control. Etc. I can't imagine anyone getting anything at all productive from the Google reflector. For example, if I had to look through the Google reflector to compile my LNC vote charts, it would increase my time needed by a factor of at least 1,000. If other people enjoy the Google reflector, more power to them, but throwing out useful mailman archives for that trainwreck would be beyond ridiculous. I get the impression that people advocating for Google groups have never actually done a side by side comparison of Mailman vs. Google groups. Chuck Moulton, J.D., Ph.D. Life Member, Libertarian Party

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Illinois Chair
by John Phillips 19 May '19

19 May '19

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Re: [Lnc-business] [Lnc-votes] DRAFT MINUTES MARCH 9-10 VERSION 2
by Caryn Ann Harlos 16 May '19

16 May '19

One is more immediate - ie the income tax On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 6:26 AM Victoria Reynolds <statechair(a)lpcolorado.org> wrote: > Is it not redundant to say abolish all tax and then say abolish the income > tax? > V > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 2:05 AM <lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: > >> Attached please find V2 of the minutes incorporating all of the input >> received. >> >> -- >> >> * In Liberty,* >> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- >> Caryn.Ann. >> Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ >> >> ========================================================================= >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * >> Eliminate Regulation * >> >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/ >> >* >> ========================================================================= >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lncvotes" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lncvotes+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lncvotes/mailman.104.1557993912.21170.lnc… >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> _______________________________________________ >> Lnc-votes mailing list >> Lnc-votes(a)hq.lp.org >> http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-votes > > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lncvotes" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lncvotes+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/lncvotes/mailman.104.1557993912.21170.lnc… >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > > In Liberty, > > > *Victoria Reynolds*Chairman > Libertarian Party of Colorado > 720-933-6900 > www.lpcolorado.org > FB: fb.com/lpcolorado > -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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please send me updates to conflicts of interest
by Caryn Ann Harlos 14 May '19

14 May '19

As conventions are happening, I know this information has changed. *I do not change anything on your entry without your express instruction, *so please review and let me know of any updates. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h5ye_hPHj6NtWj23A36eHC25hgGsm7--7H5HzGXAm… -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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website question
by Caryn Ann Harlos 13 May '19

13 May '19

Why isn't' the convention part of the rotating top banners? -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Sent off 10 new national members/renewals plus $50 donation today
by Caryn Ann Harlos 13 May '19

13 May '19

How many states do we have represented here on the LNC (including alternates)? -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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Proposed Resolution regarding Venezuela from a Member.
by Justin O'Donnell 12 May '19

12 May '19

If anyone did not see the email submission from Dr. Varner, I've copied it below for the List. There is a strong sentiment for support of this kind of resolution from members I've spoken with, And I would like to workshop some of the language with the full LNC before sponsoring a final version for consideration. Dear Members of the LNC, As many of you know, the crisis in Venezuela is causing a tremendous amount of human suffering and it has culminated in an ongoing political, economic and humanitarian crisis. The Libertarian Party has an opportunity to speak up and advocate for a Libertarian policy that can ease the human suffering in the region and changes the lives of hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans. I'd like to suggest to you that the LNC pass a resolution calling on the US congress to adopt a policy of universal asylum for Venezuelans. As the only political party in the United States that advocates for the free movement of people across borders, we have a unique opportunity to showcase the humanitarian benefits of our policies while pushing congress to meaningfully address the humanitarian crisis by expanding freedom. I have attached below a draft resolution for your consideration. If you would like to discuss the matter with me, please feel free to reach out on facebook or by telephone. If you have questions about the history of the conflict or the current political situation, I'll be happy to direct you good resources to understand the sitaution. Finally, if you would like to speak to the actual victims of the Maduro regime, I will be happy to arrange a phone call with one or more people who have been personally hurt in this crisis. Sincerely, Kyle Varner Proposed Resolution: Whereas, the Libertarian Party supports human rights and the free movement of people across borders; Whereas, the illegal and statist regime of Nicolas Maduro has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, including state seizures of property owned by US citizens and companies, and also by deceiving US citizens and companies here at home into helping the regime launder money stolen from Venezuelan taxpayers, through real estate holdings and webs of shell companies; Whereas, due to centrally planned economic policies and the regime's control of food and medical supplies, millions of Venezuelans face starvation; Whereas the Maduro regime has deprived the Venezuelan people of their right to bear arms and terrorized them with extrajudicial executions by government security forces and by deploying state-sponsored paramilitary groups for violent repression; Whereas the destruction of free markets and voluntary exchange in Venezuela has resulted in the accelerated decay of health infrastructure and rampant spread of deadly diseases; Whereas members of the Libertarian Movement of Venezuela and multiple independent libertarians in allied organizations have been arrested, beaten, tortured, and robbed by Maduro's police, soldiers, and paramilitary enforcers seeking to repress peaceful dissident activism; Whereas the Venezuelan armed forces have thus far demonstrated a cowardly refusal to obey the 1999 Venezuelan constitution, and supported a tyrant who is actively oppressing the masses; Be it resolved that: 1) The Libertarian Party calls on the US Congress to enact a policy of automatic asylum for all Venezuelan citizens so that the victims of the Maduro regime may seek safety and security in a more stable economy with comparatively less government intervention and comparatively more respect for civil liberties. 2) The Libertarian Party calls on the US congress to remove any and all legal barriers to immigration for those Venezuelans who seek safety and freedom in the United States of America. -- Yours in Liberty, Justin O'Donnell LNC Region 8 Representative Chair- LPNH Platform Committee www.justinodonnell.me Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod !

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Looking for sponsors: Miami Meeting
by Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) 09 May '19

09 May '19

I making a motion to have the Budget meeting in Miami with the following details, looking for sponsors. November LNC Budget Meeting Miami 11/16-17 We can vote and either ratify what was already decided or reassess. Alex Merced Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

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EMAIL BALLOT 190419-1 Opposition to Conversion Therapy Resolution
by Caryn Ann Harlos 08 May '19

08 May '19

We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 26, 2019 at 11:59:59 pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Longstreth, Merced, O'Donnell, Phillips ============================================= Resolution: WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party asserts that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose; WHEREAS, although children have not reached sufficient maturity to be the full custodian of their rights which are temporarily entrusted to their parents or guardians, their rights to bodily integrity and intimate personal identification, are inalienable and coerced action that would fundamentally deny these rights is abusive; WHEREAS, parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs, provided that the rights of children to be free from abuse and neglect are also protected; WHEREAS, conversion therapy has been used in the past as a form of punishment for homosexuality and gender identity which does not conform to traditional expectations; and the rights to gender and sexual identity are fundamental rights; WHEREAS, this conversion therapy has it's roots in unethical treatment used since the 70's in issues such as drug use, psychiatric disorders, and learning disabilities, that describe humiliation, sleep deprivation, sexual abuse, starvation, and isolation as "treatment techniques"; WHEREAS, children are often subjected to this type of therapy against their will, even by loving and well-intentioned parents who are unaware that the methods used in conversion therapy are extremely forceful and abusive, and that any therapy similar to this has been shown to result in suicide attempts by 20% of these patients: a five-fold increase in the risk of suicide attempts compared to other teens; THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that therapy modeled off these abusive institutions, protected and/or funded by the State, constitutes consumer fraud and forceful abuse, which the Libertarian Party opposes, and we oppose all laws allowing such. FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, the Libertarian Party opposes subjecting unwilling participants through force or coercion, especially children, to any therapy that violates the non-aggression principle through any method that would be considered abuse or torture. ============================================= You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/190419-1. Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet. Please notify me of any discrepancies. -- * In Liberty,* *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia(a)LP.org Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/ ========================================================================= Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws * Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector * Eliminate Regulation * *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>* =========================================================================

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