July 2018 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

Email Ballot 2018-17 - SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME
by Caryn Ann Harlos 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 23, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Merced Motion: Move to amend Section 1.04 of the Policy Manual to add the following sentence: Electronic ballots shall end at 6:00 PM Pacific time / 9:00 PM Eastern time on the date they conclude. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft* We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 23, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Merced Motion: Move to amend Section 1.04 of the Policy Manual to add the following sentence: Electronic ballots shall end at 6:00 PM Pacific time / 9:00 PM Eastern time on the date they conclude. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org

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Party Abbreviation on Ballots
by Whitney Bilyeu 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

Texas Libertarian candidates currently show as LIB on ballots here. Obviously, the assumption that we are liberals (since we are not Republicans) is one we fight daily. We have an opportunity to change the abbreviation, but we are being told it has to be 3-letters, and those letters must be found in the word Libertarian. So, we already have an idea of what we would change to. I am trying to find out what experience other states have had with this, if any. Opinions on this matter here include fear that changing it will backfire, and we lose votes. Others say that we don't have data supporting either, so why not try. Many think it could be another step toward overcoming the stigma we already face here in Texas by not being Republican. Many of us have folks in our own circles who hear we are Libertarian, and say things like "that sounds liberal" or "is that like liberal?" Then, they go to the voting and see LIB - suspicion confirmed. Anyway, if any of your states have experience with this specific balloting issue, let me know. Whitney Bilyeu Region 7 Representative

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Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-17 - SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME
by john.phillips＠lp.org 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

I was actually talking about both. I clearly remember voting yes on -17, I double checked it after another member asked, but given all the email difficulties ... Again, it makes no substantive difference in result, so I have no real issue with removing it this time. I do go to the online tally sheet and verify my vote being recorded correctly on every vote however, and so to clarify, I saw it recorded correctly on all but the 16 ballot, which was why I asked for the correction, I did not ask on the 17 since it was marked correctly. I guess I will start keeping more in my sent messages folder to verify. FWIW, on online bulletin board would seem an easier way to keep threads organized. John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 ------ Original message------From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-businessDate: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 10:17 PMTo: Libertarian National Committee list;Cc: Alicia Mattson;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-17 - SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME John, you seem to be talking about your vote on -16. My question is whether you cast a vote on -17. -Alicia On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 7:26 PM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: Hard to say considering the vast majority of the emails I get from this list have the content repeated twice AND the other issues with broken threads that JBH brought up AND I already asserted that I was having issues with it AND I included the statement I didn't know what happened, my vote did not affect the results, I just wanted it to be clear what my vote was. Since I caught it by starting to check the tally because I knew there was an email issue, and continue to do so, and so far none of my votes have been recorded incorrectly other than the one I reported, seems to be pretty well a non issue. John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 ------ Original message------From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-businessDate: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 7:53 PMTo: Libertarian National Committee list;Cc: Alicia Mattson;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-17 - SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME I couldn't find the Phillips vote that is listed in the results and on the tally sheet on this email ballot. Did he perhaps send that vote off-list with a Reply rather than a Reply-All? Or it could explain why he voted twice on 2018-16. He first voted yes on 07/17/18 here: http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014012.html Then on 07/20/18 he said he didn't see his vote in the tally sheet, so he voted again here: http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014168.html Perhaps his first vote is the one that ended up in the 2018-17 tally sheet instead of 2018-16? -Alicia On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: Voting has ENDED for the email ballot 2018-17 SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME Voting "aye": Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Lyons, Merced, Phillips Voting "nay": Biyeu, Goldstein, Hagan, Hewitt, Lark, Mattson, Lee, Smith, Van Horn Express Abstention: None With a final vote tally of 6-9, the motion INSERT RESULT. Note: Redpath and Sarwark did not vote. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <[2]caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org> wrote: This ballot will expire on 7/23/18. I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections): Voting AYE: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Lyons, Merced, Phillips Voting NAY: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Hagan, Hewitt, Lark, Mattson, Lee, Smith, Van Horn Express Abstentions: None Not Voting: Redpath, Sarwark For a current tally of 6-9. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Jeff Hewitt via Lnc-business <[3]lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: I vote no. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Rep On 2018-07-22 15:03, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: I will change my vote to NO on this motion. Live Free, --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-07-22 17:54, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: This ballot will expire on 7/23/18. I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections): Voting AYE: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Olsen, Longstreth, Lyons, Merced, Phillips Voting NAY: Bilyeu, Lark, Mattson, Lee, Van Horn Express Abstentions: Goldstein Not Voting: Hagan, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith For a current tally of 7-5-1 -Caryn Ann On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:29 AM, James Lark via Lnc-business <[1][4]lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- On 7/17/2018 1:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 23, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Merced Motion: Move to amend Section 1.04 of the Policy Manual to add the following sentence: Electronic ballots shall end at 6:00 PM Pacific time / 9:00 PM Eastern time on the date they conclude. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1][1][2][5]https://tinyurl.com/ lncvoting -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [2]Caryn.Ann. [2]Harlos(a)LP.org or [3]Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [4]LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. [5][3][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. [6]mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org References 1. [5][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:[6]Harlos@LP.org 3. mailto:[7]Secretary@LP.org 4. mailto:[8]LPedia@LP.org 5. [9][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 6. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [11]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. mailto:[9]lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. [10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 3. [11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 4. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 5. [13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 6. mailto:[14]Harlos@LP.org 7. mailto:[15]Secretary@LP.org 8. mailto:[16]LPedia@LP.org 9. [17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 10. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 11. mailto:[19]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [20]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [21]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org 3. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 4. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 5. https://tinyurl.com/ 6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 9. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 10. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 14. mailto:Harlos@LP.org 15. mailto:Secretary@LP.org 16. mailto:LPedia@LP.org 17. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 19. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 21. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org

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Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-17 - SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME
by john.phillips＠lp.org 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

Hard to say considering the vast majority of the emails I get from this list have the content repeated twice AND the other issues with broken threads that JBH brought up AND I already asserted that I was having issues with it AND I included the statement I didn't know what happened, my vote did not affect the results, I just wanted it to be clear what my vote was. Since I caught it by starting to check the tally because I knew there was an email issue, and continue to do so, and so far none of my votes have been recorded incorrectly other than the one I reported, seems to be pretty well a non issue. John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 ------ Original message------From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-businessDate: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 7:53 PMTo: Libertarian National Committee list;Cc: Alicia Mattson;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-17 - SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME I couldn't find the Phillips vote that is listed in the results and on the tally sheet on this email ballot. Did he perhaps send that vote off-list with a Reply rather than a Reply-All? Or it could explain why he voted twice on 2018-16. He first voted yes on 07/17/18 here: http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014012.html Then on 07/20/18 he said he didn't see his vote in the tally sheet, so he voted again here: http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014168.html Perhaps his first vote is the one that ended up in the 2018-17 tally sheet instead of 2018-16? -Alicia On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: Voting has ENDED for the email ballot 2018-17 SET EMAIL BALLOT ENDING TIME Voting "aye": Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Lyons, Merced, Phillips Voting "nay": Biyeu, Goldstein, Hagan, Hewitt, Lark, Mattson, Lee, Smith, Van Horn Express Abstention: None With a final vote tally of 6-9, the motion INSERT RESULT. Note: Redpath and Sarwark did not vote. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <[2]caryn.ann.harlos(a)lp.org> wrote: This ballot will expire on 7/23/18. I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections): Voting AYE: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Lyons, Merced, Phillips Voting NAY: Bilyeu, Goldstein, Hagan, Hewitt, Lark, Mattson, Lee, Smith, Van Horn Express Abstentions: None Not Voting: Redpath, Sarwark For a current tally of 6-9. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Jeff Hewitt via Lnc-business <[3]lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: I vote no. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Rep On 2018-07-22 15:03, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote: I will change my vote to NO on this motion. Live Free, --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-07-22 17:54, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: This ballot will expire on 7/23/18. I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections): Voting AYE: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Olsen, Longstreth, Lyons, Merced, Phillips Voting NAY: Bilyeu, Lark, Mattson, Lee, Van Horn Express Abstentions: Goldstein Not Voting: Hagan, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith For a current tally of 7-5-1 -Caryn Ann On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 10:29 AM, James Lark via Lnc-business <[1][4]lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: Dear colleagues: I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion. As always, thanks for your work for liberty. Take care, Jim James W. Lark, III Professor, Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics University of Virginia Advisor, The Liberty Coalition University of Virginia Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee ----- On 7/17/2018 1:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 23, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bishop-Henchman, Harlos, Longstreth, Merced Motion: Move to amend Section 1.04 of the Policy Manual to add the following sentence: Electronic ballots shall end at 6:00 PM Pacific time / 9:00 PM Eastern time on the date they conclude. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1][1][2][5]https://tinyurl.com/ lncvoting -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [2]Caryn.Ann. [2]Harlos(a)LP.org or [3]Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [4]LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. [5][3][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. [6]mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org References 1. [5][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:[6]Harlos@LP.org 3. mailto:[7]Secretary@LP.org 4. mailto:[8]LPedia@LP.org 5. [9][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 6. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [11]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. mailto:[9]lnc-business@hq.lp.org 2. [10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 3. [11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 4. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 5. [13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 6. mailto:[14]Harlos@LP.org 7. mailto:[15]Secretary@LP.org 8. mailto:[16]LPedia@LP.org 9. [17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 10. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 11. mailto:[19]Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [20]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft -- -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [21]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org 3. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 4. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 5. https://tinyurl.com/ 6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 9. mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org 10. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 14. mailto:Harlos@LP.org 15. mailto:Secretary@LP.org 16. mailto:LPedia@LP.org 17. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 19. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org 21. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org

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Email Ballot 2018-13: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF JC RESULTS
by Caryn Ann Harlos 28 Jul '18

28 Jul '18

We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Hagan, Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the Judicial Committee ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie someone not in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft* We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Hagan, Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit of the Judicial Committee ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by the Chair, ie someone not in the race. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org

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Email Ballot 2018-16 - SET DECEMBER MEETING DATE
by Caryn Ann Harlos 27 Jul '18

27 Jul '18

We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 23, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Merced, Phillips, Van Horn Motion: *Move to set the dates of the Winter 2018 LNC meeting as December 1-2, 2018 with a preference for the meeting to be held at a facility close to the LP office at Alexandria, VA.* You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft* We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 23, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Merced, Phillips, Van Horn Motion: Move to set the dates of the Winter 2018 LNC meeting as December 1-2, 2018 with a preference for the meeting to be held at a facility close to the LP office at Alexandria, VA. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft References 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org

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Re: [Lnc-business] Using electronic voting at LNC meetings for elections
by john.phillips＠lp.org 27 Jul '18

27 Jul '18

Alternates is a small catch, but I have also been looking at systems like this in my spare time. Lots of them have huge flexibility for all kinds of voting, and yes almost all can support the varying functionality we woukd require. You do lose paper back up, which I know is a stickler for some. That is why Stuart's proposed system was so intriguing to me. John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 ------ Original message------From: Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2018 8:32 AMTo: Caryn Ann Harlos;Cc: Sam Goldstein;Libertarian National Committee list;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Using electronic voting at LNC meetings for elections If you are in talks with them can you ask if they can assign delegate voting numbers with a state designation to keep the delegation votes separate such as IN1-IN29? Also, how would Alternates be able to vote in with this method. It surely seems a whole lot less expensive than some of the solutions being looked at by other people. --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-07-27 08:21, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: We could use it at an LNC meeting for ranked choice voting and to not have to rely on tellers. If you review my minutes from the short meeting after convention out of three ballots there were two errors. And the results would be instant. Vote, and bam. And an easy electronic record. For convention voting, yes, each delegate can be assigned a unique number, and if they implement non-anonymous voting - that delegate can view the electronic record of their own vote (it would be tied to their voter number). There would need to be either individual internet access or delegation internet access (a delegation "voting kiosk"). This is a pre-done solution with tech support that is not incredibly expensive (software wise). How long to set up each ballot? That would depend on a lot of factors but nothing insurmountable and quicker than the manual printing of ballots I am fairly certain. Further when we start getting into examining our voting methods at convention, I think it is a mistake to have the secretary so involved in elections - too much potential conflict of interest and that a qualified election panel (who are not voting delegates and deemed to be sufficiently disinterested and impartial) be given that task, with the secretary only reporting the results. We have gotten bigger and need to be more hygenic in our processes. -Caryn Ann On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein(a)lp.org> wrote: I don't know why we would need this system for an in-person LNC meeting, but it does look interesting to consider for convention voting. Would each voter get a unique log-on and have to have internet access to vote? How would we handle those delegates delegates that don't have access? How long would it take the Secretary to set up each ballot? Those are just the questions that come to mind before my first cup of coffee, I'm sure more will follow. --- Sam Goldstein Libertarian National Committee 317-850-0726 Cell On 2018-07-27 02:49, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: They have nearly every voting system and multiple variations on RCV They promised me they are moving signed ballots to the top of list. -Caryn Ann On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:48 AM Craig Bowden <craig.bowden(a)lp.org> wrote: It looks like they use Ranked Choice on there too. Just looked them up. Craig Bowden On 2018-07-27 00:43, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote: > It's a fantastic program. And will allow us to efficiently use > ranked choice. The only draw back is that right now it's secret > ballots. > > We can also use it in combination with paper ballots - do RCV on paper > ballots and have the tellers input into OpaVote to calculate. > > -Caryn Ann > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:41 AM <phillip.anderson(a)lp.org> wrote: > >> We've used OpaVote for LPWI meetings. Tyler Danke is proficient. >> Worked well for us... >> >> Get Outlook for Android [1] >> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:39 AM +0200, "Caryn Ann Harlos via >> Lnc-business" <lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org> wrote: >> >>> There is an online solution called OpaVote that I would like to >>> use once they add the ability to have non-anonymous ballots. I >>> have been speaking with them. >>> >>> I think they may also be a good resource for the proposed >>> electronic voting convention committee to look into.-- >>> >>> IN LIBERTY, >>> CARYN ANN HARLOS >>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - >>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. >>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org >>> >>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles: >>> _We defend your rights_ >>> _And oppose the use of force_ >>> _Taxation is theft_ > -- > > IN LIBERTY, > CARYN ANN HARLOS > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - > Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles: > _We defend your rights_ > _And oppose the use of force_ > _Taxation is theft_ > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] https://aka.ms/ghei36 -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft -- In Liberty, Caryn Ann Harlos Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: We defend your rights And oppose the use of force Taxation is theft

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Test
by Whitney Bilyeu 27 Jul '18

27 Jul '18

*Is* this *working*? -- *Whitney Bilyeu* Libertarian National Committee Region 7 Representative 281.433.4966

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Using electronic voting at LNC meetings for elections
by Caryn Ann Harlos 27 Jul '18

27 Jul '18

There is an online solution called OpaVote that I would like to use once they add the ability to have non-anonymous ballots. I have been speaking with them. I think they may also be a good resource for the proposed electronic voting convention committee to look into. -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> or Secretary(a)LP.org. Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia(a)LP.org A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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Re: [Lnc-business] Test
by john.phillips＠lp.org 27 Jul '18

27 Jul '18

Wierd. I see the thread on my end. John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 ------ Original message------From: Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 5:54 PMTo: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org;Cc: Joe Bishop-Henchman;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Test Your replies are still breaking the thread though On Jul 26, 2018 3:43 PM, "john.phillips--- via Lnc-business" > wrote: Yep John Phillips Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative Cell 217-412-5973 ------ Original message------From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 4:40 PMTo: lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org;Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;Subject:[Lnc-business] Test Is this working? -- Whitney BilyeuLibertarian National CommitteeRegion 7 Representative281.433.4966

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