April 2017 - Lnc-business - Moellman Enterprises Email

Re: [Lnc-business] UPDATE; Charges against Roger Pope dismissed!
by Starchild 28 Apr '17

28 Apr '17

Thanks for the update, Andy. Glad to hear the bogus charges against Libertarian petitioner Roger Pope were dismissed! Has LNC counsel Oliver Hall gotten back to you? Alicia, do you know whether Oliver is now subscribed to this list? By the way, I called and spoke with Walter Anger. Told him I was calling on behalf of one of our petitioners who'd been asked to stop petitioning in front of an Arkansas Revenue office. Anger cited a federal court case in Arkansas called Rev. Brown v. Dept of Finance in which he said a judge had ruled in their favor (he didn't know the date of this case, but it should be easy to find), saying the Finance Department could restrict petitioning outside their offices, and he said they intend this to apply this ruling to all stand-alone revenue offices (if an office is inside a mall or something, he said that was different). He claimed allowing petitioning "interferes with our ability to do business" and tried to draw a distinction between the "business side" (ha!) of government and the "political side" such as the state capitol. I told him I would let our attorney know about the case he mentions, but that even if it gives them the legal authority to tell petitioners to leave, which I said I don't believe it does, it doesn't mean that they have to enforce such a policy, only that they may. He said they were going to; I said it's possible that course of action could expose them to legal action. That's pretty much where we left it. Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (415) 625-FREE @StarchildSF On Apr 27, 2017, at 9:20 AM, petition guy wrote: > I found out yesterday that the charges against Roger Pope in Arkansas were dismissed. Just as a refresher, Roger Pope (A Libertarian Party member since 1976, Roger collected thousands of petition signatures for the Libertarian Party as an unpaid volunteer. After becoming one of the top, or maybe even the top, volunteer petitioners in the Libertarian Party, Roger started working as a paid petitioner. Roger was active in the Libertarian Party of Illinois for years, even hosting meetings at his house. Roger moved to Sacramento, California, and once served as the Chairman of the Libertarian Party of Sacramento County. He also ran for office several times as a Libertarian Party candidate. Roger moved back to Illinois after living in California for 10 years. He has been living in San Antonio, Texas since 2005. Roger has had other jobs outside of politics, but he's done paid petitioning work on and off for years.) was in Arkansas in the summer of 2016 gathering signatures for a medical marijuana initiative and a casino gaming initiative. One day he was gathering signatures in front of an Arkansas Revenue office (this is what the DMV is called in Arkansas), and he was arrested and charged with trespassing (Roger was taken to jail, given a trespass citation, and then released the same day). The Arkansas Revenue office where Roger was arrested is in a government building, but given that the courts have ruled that free speech still applies in front of DMV's that are in shopping centers, whether or not this Arkansas Revenue office is a government building, or is being leased or rented by the government is not relevant. This is a location where I have personally gathered petition signatures on multiple occasions in 2006, 2011, 2013, and 2015 (I also worked on a petition drive in Arkansas in 2007, but I'm pretty sure that I did not go to that location in 2007). Paul and other petition circulators have gathered signatures at this same location. > > After being arrested and cited, Roger was given a court date which was to occur a month or two after the petition drive ended. After the drive ended, Roger went back to Texas. He had been told by an attorney who were working for one of both of the campaigns of the initiatives that he worked that it was not necessary for him to return to Arkansas for the court appearance, as the attorney was going to take care of it for him. So Roger assumed that it was taken care of, only to find out later that that it had not been taken care of, and that a warrant had been issued for his arrest for failure to appear in court. Roger found out about the warrant after he had applied for a job in Texas, and been rejected after a criminal background check was run on him, and the warrant from Arkansas came up, which caused Roger to be rejected from this job. Roger then contacted the attorney from the campaign(s) who said that he was going to take care of it for him, and fortunately for Roger, a new court date was scheduled, and somebody from the campaign put up money to cover the expenses for Roger's return to Arkansas. Roger went to court with this attorney, and the judge dismissed the charge. > > I will do further investigation to find out when this charge was thrown out, but I believe that it happened PRIOR to the LP of Arkansas petition drive starting, and it definitely happened before I had that run in with Walter Anger, Vice President of Arkansas Revenue, and the police officer who was with him, who ran me out of the same Arkansas Revenue location where Roger was arrested, under the threat that I'd be arrested (they also told me that petitioning had been banned at all Arkansas Revenue locations), > > Regardless of the exact date when the charges against Roger Pope were thrown out, the fact of the matter is that a judge has basically admitted that this was a bogus charge, which would indicate that THEY KNOW THAT PETITIONING IN FRONT OF AN ARKANSAS REVENUE OFFICE IS A LEGAL ACTIVITY. I pointed out in a previous message that there have already been multiple court rulings that have indicated that it is in fact a legal activity to ask people to sign petitions in front of DMV's and other local and state government buildings. See the Groene vs Seng case out of Nebraska for one example (Note that this case was settled in the federal circuit court of appeals, and that Arkansas is in the same federal circuit court of appeals as Arkansas. I'm pretty sure that there was a similar court ruling out of Missouri, which is also in the same federal circuit court,). > > So it should be blatantly obvious that the government employees who ran me out of that Arkansas Revenue office for peacefully gathering ballot access petition signatures outside (I was NOT blocking pedestrian traffic either) were clearly in the wrong, and that they misrepresented the law to me, which means that they are guilty of Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law (Title 18 United States Code, Section 242). They are also guilty of interfering with somebody who is trying to qualify candidates for the ballot (Title 18 United States Code, Section 245). > > So now the question is this: what are Libertarians going to do about it? > > In liberty, > Andrew Jacobs > Libertarian Party member since 1996 > Libertarian Party ballot access petitioner since 2000

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News coverage of records preservation
by Caryn Ann Harlos 27 Apr '17

27 Apr '17

I am getting some local CO reporters interested in this and there should be some news coverage. We will be photo-documenting Nick coming in the UHaul and the unloading etc. -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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Partial delegate allocations based on 2016 Presidential vote
by Alicia Mattson 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

Regional Representatives, I am asking for your assistance. I need to transmit the information below to our state chairs. I am not on the LSLA email list, and the most recent contact list I have for state chairs is almost a year old. I know that many affiliates have changed leadership since then. Would you help me make sure this information reaches the current chairs by forwarding this to the state chairs in your region? Thank you. -Alicia ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear State Chairs, There are two components to calculating the number of delegates each Libertarian Party affiliate is entitled to send to a national convention. One component is based on the number of sustaining members in that affiliate. The second component is established by LP Bylaws Article 10.3.b as follows: "One delegate for each 0.35 percent, or fraction thereof, of the votes cast nationwide for the Libertarian Party candidate in the most recent presidential election, cast in that affiliate's state." The Libertarian National Committee has the following policy: "The Secretary shall distribute to each affiliate party the Presidential vote totals which the Secretary proposes to use for purposes of delegate allocation for National Conventions as provided for in the Bylaws, no later than the last day of April in the year following a Presidential election. If any Party member seeks a modification of the vote totals proposed by the Secretary, the member shall file with the Secretary a written request to modify the totals along with any documentation supporting the request no later than the last day of May of the same year. The Secretary shall review all such requests to modify the Presidential vote totals and distribute a final allocation of delegates based on Presidential vote totals no later than the last day of July of the same year." The Federal Election Commission (FEC) has published the certified 2016 Presidential election results online at: http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2016/2016presgeresults.pdf These are the numbers that I propose to use for purposes of calculating the above-described portion of delegate allocations. The attached document shows the delegate allocation formula applied to those numbers published by the FEC, showing how many delegates your affiliate would earn based on that portion of our bylaws. Just to be very clear, *this is not your entire delegate allocation for the 2018 convention*. This is only part of the formula. The count of your sustaining members will be updated as of 11/30/17, and then I will provide you with your full delegate allocations. Alicia Mattson LNC Secretary

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Something to air out, and then be done with it and move on to our important work
by Caryn Ann Harlos 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

Something happened last LNC meeting that really troubled me. And I don't think it was intentional, but I think we need to be aware. There are still comments that are made in this Party to women that would never (or perhaps never) be made in the same way to men. I get to anywhere I get to because, ultimately, of my merit. The comment about me now that my husband is State Chair was IMHO improper and would not be said to a man in an opposite role, or if so, the connotation would not be the same. I remind everyone - *I* was involved first. I work my ass off. And if I get any position it isn't because my husband is State Chair. I earn my own money and I earn my own merit. I have a very good reputation on platform issues in CO because *I earned it* though hard fought effort and leading the Party through a very difficult time not because of who I am married to. If anyone thinks it is ever remotely acceptable to suggest otherwise or be silent when anyone else suggests otherwise well.... Don't wonder why some women say the Party is not friendly at times to women. I don't think that reputation the LP has is always fair, but I do think we need to listen when it might be and just be aware. I know it wasn't meant that way. But I am not the only person who took it that way and it was broadcast to the whole Party. And I HATE identity politics with a burning passion and rarely if ever say any such thing about this subject. I can give as good as I get. But sometimes it is nice for *others* to say - hey, that's not right. And that comment said last meeting... it wasn't right. To me or to the CO affiliate. Thank you for listening but I think it had to be said and with that, time to get back to work. -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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state chair and state affiliate contact lists
by Wes Benedict 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

Current lists are attached. Send updates to Andy Burns <andy.burns(a)lp.org>. -- Wes Benedict, Executive Director Libertarian National Committee, Inc. 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict(a)lp.org facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

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LPedia got a Washington Times mention
by Caryn Ann Harlos 26 Apr '17

26 Apr '17

LIBERTARIANS PONDER THEIR HERITAGE The Libertarian Party is tracing its history back to its earliest days, which is somewhere around 1972. The results: “The LPedia” — a master library for loyal and curious Libertarians that will include historical documents, archives, news accounts, training materials and more. “This will be a huge project as we have an incomplete collection of these items in our archives and they are fragile. We’ll also have to overcome the challenges of scanning large newsprint pieces. The home for these records will be LPedia.org <http://lpedia.org/Main_Page> — the working collaborative, crowd-sourced history of the Libertarian Party,” advises Caryn Ann Harlos, who is overseeing the project. -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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draft minutes of 04/15/17 LNC session
by Alicia Mattson 25 Apr '17

25 Apr '17

Attached are the first draft minutes from the April 15-16, 2017 LNC meeting. Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by May 7. I have heard no one express any issue with dubbing the newly formed committee as the Social Media Process Review Committee, so that's what I've called it in the minutes. I see that my footer text disappeared starting with the Region 5 Report appendix. I didn't spot it until after I had my PDF built. I've fixed it in the underlying file so it will look right in the next update, but I didn't take the time to rebuild the PDF just for that. There was a snafu with Mr. Somes' motion regarding Paladin Strategies. When he originally stated the motion he said the contract would be for up to 3 months. When I requested more precise wording in writing for the minutes, the written version said for up to 6 months, and I didn't immediately notice the discrepancy, and that's what I typed. All of you heard 3 months, and you couldn't see that the written version said 6 months, so Mr. Hagan's amendment was based on the 3 months * $5,000/mo = $15,000. Twice during the debate, including right before the vote, the chair read the motion from my screen, so he read 6 months. RONR prescribes that the language read just prior to the vote is the official language in such a situation, so the minutes say 6 months. That makes the $15,000 amendment look odd, but that's what happened. -Alicia

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Definition of Staff
by Daniel Hayes 24 Apr '17

24 Apr '17

Colleagues, What does the term "staff" mean in relation to the LNC? I haven't found that term defined. Is there some official definition of this that I can be pointed to? What does everyone on the LNC consider it to mean? Daniel Hayes LNC At Large Member Sent from my iPhone

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Reason: If U.S. voters in the 2016 presidential election could vote again today, here's how the election would go (poll)
by Starchild 24 Apr '17

24 Apr '17

A bit of encouraging news in the slow migration of American voters away from the 2-party cartel... > Election Do-Over Poll Shows Gains for Gary Johnson, Jill Stein > > No sign of third-party regrets > > Jesse Walker > > Apr. 24, 2017 10:36 am > > If the people who participated in last year's election could do it all again, Donald Trump would win the popular vote this time—but he wouldn't actually get more support than before. Instead, according to a new Washington Post/ABC News poll, many Hillary Clinton voters would now stay home or back a third-party candidate. > In the actual election, Clinton bested Trump in the popular vote, 48 percent to 46 percent. In the survey, 46 percent said they voted for Clinton and 43 percent said they voted for Trump—not the same numbers, obviously, but it's a similar margin. When those same people were asked who they'd pick if they could do it again, Trump now won, 43 to 40. > > You'll note that Trump hasn't gotten any more popular—he gets 43 percent either way. But Clinton has bled support: Gary Johnson now gets 5 percent of the vote (one point higher than how the respondents said they voted last year), Jill Stein gets 3 percent (another one-point bump), and another 8 percent would either vote for someone else or not vote at all. (The remainder say they have no opinion.) The pollsters note that "nonwhites are 10 points more likely than whites to say they would not support Clinton again, with more than a third of them heading to the Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson." > > It's not all bad news for the Clintonites, though. When you include people who didn't vote in 2016, Clinton comes out ahead in the do-over, 41 percent to 37 percent. (Johnson and Stein are still at 5 and 3 percent, respectively.) So some nonvoters appear to wish they hadn't sat the last election out. > > But when it comes to third-party supporters, we don't seem to be seeing anything like the regretful Ralph Nader voters of 2000. If anything, this poll suggests we're witnessing the opposite. > (from http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/24/election-do-over-poll-shows-gains-for-ga ) Love & Liberty, ((( starchild )))

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Re: [Lnc-business] ordering more name badges - deadline Friday April 21.
by Caryn Ann Harlos 24 Apr '17

24 Apr '17

Please order two, and I will make the appropriate donation to the Party. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Lauren Daugherty <lauren.daugherty(a)lp.org> wrote: > Hi Caryn Ann, > > Based on our last order, I expect them to cost approximately $10 per > badge. How many would you like me to order for you? > > Wes, > > I don't have the ability to post to the LNC business list. Would you > please tell them "approximately $10 per name badge? > > Thanks! > > Lauren > > On 2017-04-19 16:20, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: > >> How much are they? I would like a few more but also didn't want Party >> to pay for them. >> >> -Caryn Ann >> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:55 PM Daniel Hayes >> <danielehayes(a)icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I just asked Lauren for 5 badges because I am often >>> undressing/dressing in my car. I already lost my first one though I >>> managed to keep the magnetic bar. >>> >>> I wanted extras to leave in my backpack, my SUV, at my house and my >>> mom's. >>> >>> I have made a donation for $60 to cover the cost of the 5 badges and >>> handling etc. I do my best to make my cost to our members as >>> revenue neutral as I can without regard to the donations I make on >>> monthly and special project basis. >>> >>> I am posting this here in the interest of transparency so if anyone >>> comes across a pile of badges for me in an invoice or whatever , >>> staff or whoever can say, "He "paid" for them." >>> >>> Daniel Hayes >>> LNC At Large Member >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Apr 19, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict(a)lp.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We're ordering another batch of name badges for staff and LNC >>>> members that need them. If you've lost yours, or haven't received >>>> one yet or would like another one, please send a note to Lauren >>>> Daugherty <lauren.daugherty(a)lp.org> by this Friday at 11:59 PM >>>> Eastern so she can include it with our next order. >>>> >>>> See embedded image of example name badge below. Thanks, >>>> >>> >>> <mknbinjjcblkckaj.png> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director >>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc. >>>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314 >>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 [1], wes.benedict(a)lp.org >>>> facebook.com/libertarians [2] @LPNational >>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lnc-business mailing list >>>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org [3] >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lnc-business mailing list >>> Lnc-business(a)hq.lp.org >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org [3] >>> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] tel:(202)%20333-0008 >> [2] http://facebook.com/libertarians >> [3] http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org >> > -- *In Liberty,* *Caryn Ann Harlos* Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos(a)LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos(a)LP.org> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee A haiku to the Statement of Principles: *We defend your rights* *And oppose the use of force* *Taxation is theft*

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